TobiOT
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Torino vs Ac Milan. Milan giving them that work.
I remember when everyone was raving about Bellotti, he should've left them time ago.
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I remember when everyone was raving about Bellotti, he should've left them time ago.
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
They trying to make sure juve end up in Europa
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Man's not normal
Let's go through the arguments against plastic clubs one at a time:
- "they are funded by states"
Barcelona built the Nou Camp with assistance from the Spanish state, they also built their other stadia for the use of their other teams (they're not just a football club, they're a sports club with lots of different sporting teams under one shared organisation) through the use of taxpayer money which has never been repaid. They gave a medal to Franco instead of cash repayment of the loan. Pure and simple corruption. Franco stole the money from the Spanish people and gave it to Barcelona, who then repaid him by legitimising his dictatorship via honouring him with a club medal.
As for Real Madrid, the less said about them and collusion with the Spanish government, the better.
Both clubs even up to this day work hand-in-hand with the government in robbing the Spanish taxpayer: Barcelona and Real Madrid use taxpayers money unfairly, rules EU Commission | Corporate Finance | Business Chief EMEA
Let's get one thing fukking straight, when it comes to being owned by Qatar or UAE, Barcelona and Real Madrid wrote the playbook. They were abusing government funding 50+ years before Mansour bought Man City.
- "plastic clubs are billionaires playthings; big businessmen taking over football clubs should be illegal"
Juventus have been owned by FIAT group for 98 years lol. Roman has only owned Chelsea for 18 years, suddenly he's the guy responsible for third party business tyc00n ownership of football clubs? Every success Juventus have had is a direct outcome of their sugar daddy ownership by the Agnelli family dating back to 1923. Roman was just following a business model that existed 40 years before he was even born
- "they are funded by states"
Barcelona built the Nou Camp with assistance from the Spanish state, they also built their other stadia for the use of their other teams (they're not just a football club, they're a sports club with lots of different sporting teams under one shared organisation) through the use of taxpayer money which has never been repaid. They gave a medal to Franco instead of cash repayment of the loan. Pure and simple corruption. Franco stole the money from the Spanish people and gave it to Barcelona, who then repaid him by legitimising his dictatorship via honouring him with a club medal.
As for Real Madrid, the less said about them and collusion with the Spanish government, the better.
Both clubs even up to this day work hand-in-hand with the government in robbing the Spanish taxpayer: Barcelona and Real Madrid use taxpayers money unfairly, rules EU Commission | Corporate Finance | Business Chief EMEA
Let's get one thing fukking straight, when it comes to being owned by Qatar or UAE, Barcelona and Real Madrid wrote the playbook. They were abusing government funding 50+ years before Mansour bought Man City.
- "plastic clubs are billionaires playthings; big businessmen taking over football clubs should be illegal"
Juventus have been owned by FIAT group for 98 years lol. Roman has only owned Chelsea for 18 years, suddenly he's the guy responsible for third party business tyc00n ownership of football clubs? Every success Juventus have had is a direct outcome of their sugar daddy ownership by the Agnelli family dating back to 1923. Roman was just following a business model that existed 40 years before he was even born
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TobiOT
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CHO is extra basura, Sarri was right 
Roberto Firmino
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Dude who are you even arguing against
I don't think anybody thinks those clubs are saints and I would hope we are all aware of the dirt and shadiness that goes on at the very top level and the clubs most of us support, I just find it laughable that you are so caught up in defending a shytty system and corrupt af UEFA that you actually think the plastics are somehow any better or a pargon of virtue
Nah comfortable lead for The ArsenalStill no access to the game but I'm hearing Chelsea being denied countless penalties
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Auba looked pissed when he got subbed off.
The state funded argument in relation to City has always been BS. City have always been a part of ADUG, which is a private investment group that did pump alot of money in initially to help get the club to where it is today. Been self sufficient for years. The CAS judgement also clarified that City wasn't state owned, but now naysayers are questioning the impartiality of CAS, which is ridiculous.
The ownership models of Bayern and Juve are very suspect and if FFP weren't a scam they would have investigated them a long time ago.
Auba looked pissed when he got subbed off.
He gets no chances but has to shoulder a lot of the abuse. I can see him leaving this summer.
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Good thing Arteta had 3 RB's on the bench.
Are you kidding me 
chelsea has had like ten good chances
