Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - Arne Slot is a Bald Fraud

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That’s an interesting point bc I don’t think France rn has anyone of that caliber that Spain had. Those Spanish boys were passers but more than a few of them had the ability to beat defenders and progress the ball. France’s midfield yesterday was :hhh:. They had three players of the same mold, all essentially defensive minded. And I like each of them, a bit different, but they would essentially fill the same roles in a more balanced team fighting for the same spot

I mentioned that Spain 2012 team as it was the most extreme example I've come across as I've been doing some research. This will surprise people but a well known face of terrorism El Cholo. Had 2-3 passers starting in those CL finals in 2014 and 2016. Its not about the caliber/level/name recognition. It's more about finding players who can pass in-between the lines drift into pockets keep the ball moving and linking the play de/in-creasing the tempo. Their initial instinct is looking for the next pass first not look to dribble/drive first.

Usually the best/great/dominant teams in history generally have 2 passers in the line up. One deeper and one higher up. Some have 3 and in some cases there is 4. There are a few examples of teams have 1 pure passer + a link player + an X factor player. Maybe the game has become too transitional? But as an England victim of watching them underperform for decades the most common theme throughout the years was lack of controlling passers. I know what a lack of control looks like. And I'm not including the likes of Gerrard or Beckham because their passing skill was more crosses/lofted passes. I'm talking more about the 10-15 yard on the ground passes and the player constantly moving only 5-10 yards always ready to receive the next pass.
 

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1) He's not a ranter + his presentation is well researched thus makes it too clean so it's not as charismatic.
2) He didn't play for Liverpool so he doesn't get the scouser pundit uplift.
3) 95% of the pundits are shyt. Talking themselves into thinking Rice/Bellingham double pivot is going to work. But I get why they think that but that's also why most of them are failed coaches. They cannot get beyond good players can play with other good players and thats why it will work type of analyst. When the reality is you need different types of skillsets within a line up and bench.

This and he's the wrong skin tone to be so articulate
 

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I mentioned that Spain 2012 team as it was the most extreme example I've come across as I've been doing some research. This will surprise people but a well known face of terrorism El Cholo. Had 2-3 passers starting in those CL finals in 2014 and 2016. Its not about the caliber/level/name recognition. It's more about finding players who can pass in-between the lines drift into pockets keep the ball moving and linking the play de/in-creasing the tempo. Their initial instinct is looking for the next pass first not look to dribble/drive first.

Usually the best/great/dominant teams in history generally have 2 passers in the line up. One deeper and one higher up. Some have 3 and in some cases there is 4. There are a few examples of teams have 1 pure passer + a link player + an X factor player. Maybe the game has become too transitional? But as an England victim of watching them underperform for decades the most common theme throughout the years was lack of controlling passers. I know what a lack of control looks like. And I'm not including the likes of Gerrard or Beckham because their passing skill was more crosses/lofted passes. I'm talking more about the 10-15 yard on the ground passes and the player constantly moving only 5-10 yards always ready to receive the next pass.
I know exactly what you mean. Criminal a guy like Michael Carrick only had 34 England caps :hhh: , or Scholes getting phased out for Lampard and Gerrard when he shouldn’t have been.
 

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We need a 2nd goal and I go like Lesotho score at least 1.



Can’t see it on the FIFA plus app. Is it Geoblocked?

EDIT: ESPN+ for US viewers

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IPTV>>>>>


There's some 4k/60fps channels but this Nigerian match is 1080p/50fps or 720p/59fps
 

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We have to win out and hope SA drops points somewhere. I think it’s possible but we really should have been topping the table and 4-5 pts clear.
Yea I still think it’s probably gonna take winning out, could maybe eat a draw depending on other results, we’ve still SA to play, them and Benin drawing next matchday is what I think we need to hope for. I think absolute worst we finish as 1 of the 4 best second place teams and have the playoff route but I don’t want any part of that.
 

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I know exactly what you mean. Criminal a guy like Michael Carrick only had 34 England caps :hhh: , or Scholes getting phased out for Lampard and Gerrard when he shouldn’t have been.

Carrick is the most obvious one. But even players like Danny Murphy and Adam Lallana had something different in their games. Even someone like Gareth Barry who only became a regular under Capello. Another player underutilised was Steve McManaman who many people would regard as a wide/midfielder winger. BUT was of a high quality as a creator and spent his best years more as a central player than as a winger. Liverpool under Roy Evans played 352 Macca was the player behind the strikers. And at Real in the first season he would play alongside Redondo in midfield especially in that CL final win.

The Scholes on the left hand side will never sit well with me even tho I understand the reasoning. It was meant to be flat 442 when defending and when in possession Scholes drifts inside to play as LCM. This was the problem trying to accommodate Scholes Gerrard Lampard and Beckham + Rooney and Owen up front.
 

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Yea I still think it’s probably gonna take winning out, could maybe eat a draw depending on other results, we’ve still SA to play, them and Benin drawing next matchday is what I think we need to hope for. I think absolute worst we finish as 1 of the 4 best second place teams and have the playoff route but I don’t want any part of that.

We should hope for a Benin win IMO.

SA we have to beat in Jozi, no two ways about it.

Playoffs is a no-no
 
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