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Yayo Toure said:
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Yippee Ki Yay said:
Unfortunately that has been going on for as long as we have both been following football as I think we are of a similar age

In recent years it has moved onto Man U players as 90's, 00's they have been the most successful team

I just wish they actually spread the punditry work around to other players from other clubs to make it a bit more fairer and unbiased

One player I would like to see more doing punditry work as I think he's good, articulate and comes across well with out a biased opinion is Theo Walcott

But in reality it's going to stay with mostly Man u/Liverpool players with women aswell to even it out ( don't start me on that, I'm not a pc guy, it's ruined the build up and aftermath of football for me )

They can :camby: along with Jamie Rednapp who is just as bad as them
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As per the former OFT alumni King of the Kingdom. He use to call Jamie Redknapp Face as in from the A-Team.

The problem with the English/British player is they don't have much tactico work to fall back on in a chat. As their career was basically PL and might of done a stint in MLS at the back end of their career. There is a missing generations of 90's and 00 players either not becoming coaches or when they do they fail. Amd when they do enter the punditry world they don't really offer anything beyond the usual pundit nonsense.
 
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OneManGang said:
That’s an interesting point bc I don’t think France rn has anyone of that caliber that Spain had. Those Spanish boys were passers but more than a few of them had the ability to beat defenders and progress the ball. France’s midfield yesterday was :hhh:. They had three players of the same mold, all essentially defensive minded. And I like each of them, a bit different, but they would essentially fill the same roles in a more balanced team fighting for the same spot
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I mentioned that Spain 2012 team as it was the most extreme example I've come across as I've been doing some research. This will surprise people but a well known face of terrorism El Cholo. Had 2-3 passers starting in those CL finals in 2014 and 2016. Its not about the caliber/level/name recognition. It's more about finding players who can pass in-between the lines drift into pockets keep the ball moving and linking the play de/in-creasing the tempo. Their initial instinct is looking for the next pass first not look to dribble/drive first.

Usually the best/great/dominant teams in history generally have 2 passers in the line up. One deeper and one higher up. Some have 3 and in some cases there is 4. There are a few examples of teams have 1 pure passer + a link player + an X factor player. Maybe the game has become too transitional? But as an England victim of watching them underperform for decades the most common theme throughout the years was lack of controlling passers. I know what a lack of control looks like. And I'm not including the likes of Gerrard or Beckham because their passing skill was more crosses/lofted passes. I'm talking more about the 10-15 yard on the ground passes and the player constantly moving only 5-10 yards always ready to receive the next pass.
 
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