⚽ The Official Euro 2024 Thread | 🇪🇦 reyes de Europa thanks to 2 🇨🇵 players | 🏴 lose a Euro final for the 2nd time in a row :wow:
Kunty McPhuck
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So Luke Shaw missed training and probably won't be able to play at the euros
And apparently the team isn't fit enough to press
Capello told everyone 14 years ago and every year after when asked about his England career.
"I found a really good team but I said always that in spring you can play any team, September also. In March, too. But in June, we are tired. When you play the World Cup, the Euro, the team played without confidence, With fear."
If you look at England's best performances in competitive fixtures since the 2000. Germany Croatia Spain all took place in September. As far as tournament football goes maybe Euro 2004 with Croatia game and the France game for 85mins. The best performance under Waistcoat was probably the 2-1 loss to France in Qatar which was in December
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Kunty McPhuck
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Saw this and was
Old school terrorism.
England tactics in general should be try and blitz teams within the first 60mins. As that's when the match usually turns against them anyway. Get an early goal then put it on the opposition force and try and break their will. You got 5 subs ffs.
Waistcoat or via proxy of Walker telling the media that Waistcoat doesn't tell us to drop when we go a goal up. If Waistcoat isn't telling you this then why the phuck isn't he on that touchline screaming like a lunatic to push up as soon as it happens.
It's more than tactics. Couple things we have to remind ourselves. Outside of the last Euros, England have consistently underachieved.
This isn't the first golden generation.
They have had home grown and international coaches.
What is causing England to underachieve?
Other major countries have down years but the come back, Spain, Germany, France, Italy all pop back up.
England keeps underachieving.
The talent is there, the EPL allows them to nuture talent against the best in the world.
I posit that there is an issue endemic to English football, that we are missing, that causing them to be this way. Something is not right there mentally or politically.
I don't know what it is, but it's there and the team won't be fixed until that problem is fixed.
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Kunty McPhuck
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It's the mentality and tactics on how you go into games. England/Britain don't have a positive aggressive mentality in the sporting world. Its a country/Nation of losers. Oh never mind youngave it your best shot. Here's an OBE or a Knighthood for losing.
Theres a lack of clarity and intent with the tactics. That's why the best coaches in Rugby and Cricket whove changed things mentality wise have have previous experience outside of the country. With the Rugby Eddie Jones changed things but his personality wore everyone down. But prior to that between the years winning world cup under Clive Woodward. Who himself spent 5 years playing Rugby in Australia. It was all standard English rugby that goes back years. The kicking territorial game. Instead of being more attacking passing and running Rugby. The most exotic thing English rugby use to do was take people from Rugby League.
England cricket team best coaches have been 2 Cac Zimbabweans an Australian and now a Kiwi. All wanted the team to be aggressive and positive in what they were going to do. The English coaches have had muddled thinking and change things on the whim instead of clarity of the way they want to play I.e the tactics. England's best captains in the 21st century have all been born outside of England/UK
Now back to the coaches.
Sven was cautious and didnt want to rock the boat. And was too influenced by English football instead of adapting from his European experiences.
Capello understood it all but the players didn't really grasp what he was telling them.
McClaren was too matey with the players.
Woy been playing the same way since the 80's but he too fell into the trap of trying to get all the best players not the best team.
Waistcoat get it but he doesn't have the coaching nous to execute the plans properly and his too cautious. Also relies too much on vibes.
Keegan was a vibes man our best players will outscored your best players.
Hoddle understood it all but ego got in the way between his comments on disabled. Ellien Drewery and showing the players up in training.
Venables also understood but his dodgy past phucked that up.
Graham Taylor was a terrorist long ball merchant.
Bobby Robson was a vibes man.
Out of those names only 2 of them are known for playing possession football. Venables and Hoddle who also had experience outside of England. Hoddle also had Wenger as a mentor. Venables toured when on a pilgrimage to Holland back in the mid 70's.
You can name Spain Germany Italy and France they all have a style of play that goes back decades. Spain always been about keeping the ball. Germany while blending their traditional physical style with now a more possession one over the past 14 years also have the mentality. Italy are known terrorists whose football been that way for decades.
France has always been a combination of flair and physical but comes down to if everyone is in harmony with one another.
What is England's style of play? What style would suit England's players characteristics over the years. It's all been for the majority of time been defensive cautious approach. Instead of trying to use what the English league is all about power and pace take it to the opposition. You should be able to try and blitz team away.
You fix it for starters by binning the League Cup and make the PL 18 teams.
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Yippee Ki Yay
Pro
Because he doesn't know what he is doing, and only really knows how to defend
you said it a few post back about freestyle attacking football and the manager gives us attacking freedom which translate to make it up as you go along
I believe in training they do NO attacking training or attacking plays and just concentrate on defending and keeping their shape in low blocks of 4 so we don't concede
they might might practice set pieces like corners at the end of training so he can nick a goal in the last 5 minutes and win the game 1 nil which is all he wants to do
Kunty McPhuck
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when I hear pundits and fans talk they don't have a enough time to implement a system/style. That's nonsense just look at Austria and Turkey. Rangnick and Montella been in the jobs for less than 2 years and both have clear distinct styles. Everyone knows their role. You cannot tell me after 8 years incharge you're unable to put in some sort of system in place. Your squad has atleast 15-20 players in it from the last 3 tournaments. And the defence has been together for 4.While it was in a different time with more training camps. But both Sir Alf Ramsey and Carlos Bilardo (Mexico 86) spent 2 years working on their systems that won the World Cup. The trick was they worked on it in training but didn't reveal what they had been working on till the tournament.
It's funny on Friday morning I made a comment about Steve Holland in the Athletic Comment section about how he needs to start taking some blame with him being the so called coach and tactician. Not even 12 hours later there an Telegraph article online for today's paper mentioned it about the team outgrowing it's Waistcoat.
J Money
No weapon formed against me shall prosper
Portugal to win
Bernard Silva over 0.5 shots
Bruno Fernandes for over 1.5 shots
Ronaldo over 2.5 shots
Ronaldo over 1.5 shots on target
Vitinha over 0.5 shots
Bardacki over 0.5 fouls
Calhanoglu over 0.5 fouls
For +1900 or 19/1
Bernard Silva over 0.5 shots
Bruno Fernandes for over 1.5 shots
Ronaldo over 2.5 shots
Ronaldo over 1.5 shots on target
Vitinha over 0.5 shots
Bardacki over 0.5 fouls
Calhanoglu over 0.5 fouls
For +1900 or 19/1
I like cheillini as analyst
Turkey for the upset.Portugal to win
Bernard Silva over 0.5 shots
Bruno Fernandes for over 1.5 shots
Ronaldo over 2.5 shots
Ronaldo over 1.5 shots on target
Vitinha over 0.5 shots
Bardacki over 0.5 fouls
Calhanoglu over 0.5 fouls
For +1900 or 19/1
Fraudfraudez tactics come to the fore again
J Money
No weapon formed against me shall prosper
Think he's changed to a back 4 for today's game
Also don't see Turkey winning with Guler not starting
Lakerman0834
Veteran
Türkiye coach tripping sitting the 2 star youngsters
Point taken