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[richaveli83]

That bedroom scene in X-Men Gold 32

 

[nieman]

Comic Shuri herself is in a tough spot, and always has been, because she's a tweener...

Not young enough to be considered peers with Kamala, Miles, Riri (who Bendis i feel ripped off MCU Shuri with), Nova, etc... but not old enough to be considered a peer of T'Challa or his Avenger peers. And she's not the brainiac of Wakanda/top 5 smartest in the world like she is in the MCU. T'Challa is smarter and the better fighter, and invents his own things, so I found her to be a bit useless/pointless up until the movie gave us a great interpretation of her.

...though even that was at the cost of lowkey dumbing T'Challa down. But still better than the comics. Think of it like this, the only time Shuri ever got to shine in the comics was if they found a way to kick her brother out of the picture. It was like they were allergic to making the siblings work as a tandem, up until the movie.

That said, MCU Shuri is going places. Comic version however... they may find a way to bridge the gap but it aint gon be with this current writer.

I feel you on some parts, but they definitely didn't have to turn her into Riri-lite. Movie Shuri works for the MCU, but definitely doesn't work for the comics. There's no way MCU Shuri can become BP. There are also far too many intelligent people and T'Challa is too far ahead of her in everything, for her to be his equal on the intellectual scale. Unless they give her a field of natural science studies, which does fit with her new cryptic hippie vibe, but I do agree that she needs some direction. Doom War was a good start to building them working together, with their difference being their take on things, but of course the ending that most hated. I like Shuri and liked Doom War, so I'm biased. I think her brash attitude works with T'Challa as his 2nd, with her saying the things that everyone is thinking, but him combating it with his methodical, tactical approach.

Like you said, she's in a tough spot, and it would take for them to break apart for her to truly come into her own. It didn't help that she had very few fans to begin with, most disliking her because they saw her as a way to push T'Challa out.

But as for where she is in the movie, I do not want to see it carried over into the books. She's been around for over a decade, and never showed any engineering prowess

Erika Alexander/Concrete Park

she hasn't had any comics work since then, has she? They need to give her the nod. Her name alone will get folks interested.

SOME folks. But word would spread about who she is and she's doing comics for a major, word of multimedia mouth would bring them views.

I met her at a panel in Philly. She has no desire to revisit Concrete Park any time soon, even though she did just do Giles, but she has her own multi-media company that she's invested in right now.

 

[Mr. Negative]

Comic book fans can be creepy...Tom King got so many death threats after Batman #50 that DC got him a bodyguard for SDCC.

that means he's the most (un)popular comics writer since Frank Miller killed Elektra. That's the only time in memory I can remember that happening.

welcome to infamy.

It's like when wrestling was Kayfabe.

 

[BXKingPin82]

Cosmic Ghost Rider snuffin baby Thanos.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

that means he's the most (un)popular comics writer since Frank Miller killed Elektra. That's the only time in memory I can remember that happening.

welcome to infamy.

It's like when wrestling was Kayfabe.

Apparently that 'bodyguard' is a comic book artist and King was just trolling.

Though it's crazy how much people have turned on Tom King as of late. It's almost as if this Batman run destroyed all of the good will he had built up from his other works.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

New DC rumors. From 4ch*n, so take with a grain of salt:

Spoiler

• Tom King won't be changing any of his plot ideas despite the public backlash of the wedding. Next two arcs will be about Bruce Wayne self-reflecting on if being Batman is a good thing. He'll ask dikk to take over temporarily. The Bane cliffhanger won't be followed up on until around December/January.
  
  
• dikkbats won't be a thing in Justice League, but it will spill over to Ben Percy's Nightwing. It'll double ship for a few months, and go back to monthly. DC's also going to push the Nightwing-Batgirl relationship as damage control for the wedding trainwreck, but don't expect anything big to come out of it.
  
  
• The solo Red Hood direction will just be for an arc. Scott Lobdell originally wanted to use Roy Harper's death as the catalyst for this angle, but editors stepped in so that he could be used for Heroes in Crisis. Joker's Daughter will be taking Roy's place on the chopping block. Lobdell will be gone after this arc, by the way, to focus more on screenwriting.
  
  
• Peter Tomasi will be on Detective Comics, but not until after 1000. His pitch is a globe-trotting Batman fighting the League of Assassins worldwide.
  
  
• Speaking of Heroes in Crisis, it's in a messy state. Tom King originally wanted to do just a 6-issue mini-series about PTSD, but Didio wanted to be more like Identity Crisis 2.0. The three suspects are Booster Gold, Harley Quinn, and Wally West, since they're the only survivors. The two victims are Ray Palmer and Kyle Rayner. Rayner doesn't die until late in the event, though. The killer is Hunter Zolomon disguised as Wally.
  
  
• After the fallout from Flash War and HiC, Wally will get a mini-series written by David F. Walker, about him getting his life together and back with Linda.
  
  
• Huge Justice League crossover happening in January, between Justice League, Justice League Dark, and maybe Odyssey (see below). Superboy Prime is unleashed from the Source Wall. Yeah, you heard me. Green Lantern Corps might have a tie-in, too.
  
  
• Justice League Odyssey is dead on arrival, by the way. Editorial demanded that some changes in the script after Sejic had already drawn two issues. Sejic's pissed about it, and is only going to do four issues instead of 12. Then he'll write and draw his Black Label book.
  
  
• Editorial is letting Adam Glass a lot of leeway with Teen Titans. He pitched it to them as "teenage Suicide Squad", and they're are letting him run with it. Expect new characters to join, and others to be killed off. The higher-ups are really happy with this direction so far.
  
  
• Titans, on the other hand, the top brass isn't happy with. Abnett has about 8 issues of scripts done, and DC's going to double-ship them just to get them out of the way before cancelling or revamping the title. They're letting writers make pitches. The general feeling is that they want to move Nightwing out of the group, and replace him with Red Robin.
  
  
• Bryan Edward Hill will be writing an Outsiders title, with Black Lightning, Katana, Geo-Force, Halo. Nightwing will replace Batman as the team supervisor (and for Young Justice synergy). Simon Baz will be on the team, too. A crossover between this and Percy's Nightwing is planned.
  
  
• Grant Morrison Green Lantern is real, btw, and it's a 12-issue run about Hal Jordan exploring the Multiverse and learning about how Lantern willpower works in other worlds. Expect an SDCC announcement. Green Lanterns will be retitled as Green Lantern Corps (it'll keep the numbering) and will follow the other Lanterns (John, Guy, Kilowog, etc), with Dan Jurgens writing.
  
  
• KSD takes over Aquaman after the SS crossover, and she'll be writing about Mera, Queen of Atlantis. Aquaman will stay as an underwater Robin Hood, and there will be a Romeo and Juliet doomed romance.
  
  
• Brian Azzarello is taking Suicide Squad back to its roots, kind of. Harley, Deadshot, and Boomerang are still on the team, but the rest will be expendable villains (like Cheshire, Clock King, Raptor), with a mix of old and new. DC might publish this under Black Label.
  
  
• New Age of Heroes has been disappointing, saleswise. The Unexpected is done after six issues. Immortal Men and Damage are ending at 12. The Terrifics is doing well enough to last. Sideways and Silencer might get a few more issues because Didio likes them.

I'm fukking done with DC if these Heroes in Crisis rumors are true.

Why hasn't DiDio been asked to step down?

Well, some of these were wrong as shyt.

Lobdell's not leaving RHATO.

Morrison's GL is not about Hal exploring the multiverse, but is grounded in Sector 2814.

Tomasi starts on Detective Comics with issue 994. League of Assassins part may still be true tho.

KSD's Aquaman isn't making Aquaman and Mera doomed lovers like Romeo and Juliet, at least initially. The first arc is about Aquaman and his relationship with his mother.

I still believe the rumours about the Outsiders book, New Age of Heroes, Suicide Squad and everything involving Tom King.

 

[nieman]

Read new X-23. I wonder how long Honey Badger has left in the spotlight. She's too dope, so that means it's inevitable that she'll be placed on a shelf

 

[Jello Biafra]

Alternate cover and synopsis for the Shuri book:

Shuri is happiest in a lab, surrounded by gadgets of her own creation. She’d rather be testing gauntlets than throwing them. But a nation without a leader is a vulnerable one — and Shuri may have to choose between Wakanda’s welfare and her own.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Marvel launching new digital series for Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Daughters of the Dragon:

Luke Cage (MDO) #1
Written by Anthony Del Col
Art by Jahnoy Lindsay
Cover art by Declan Shalvey
With Harlem in the grips of an unprecedented heat wave, the people look to their hero—the unbreakable man, Luke Cage! But the heat wave turns out to be the least of Harlem’s worries. Someone has their sights set on the city’s 1%, and the rich and powerful are dropping dead from mysterious illnesses. It’s up to Luke Cage to stop the killer—but he’s just received a grim diagnosis of his own…
A DOUBLE-SIZED Marvel Digital Original you don’t want to miss!

Iron Fist: Phantom Limb (MDO) #1
Written by Clay McLeod Chapman
Art by Guillermo Sanna
Cover art by Khoi Pham
CONTAINS THE FIRST TWO CHAPTERS OF A BRAND NEW, DIGITAL-FIRST, IN-CONTINUITY SERIES!
A darkness is spreading through New York – something evil that preys on those who believe in the supernatural and the occult. And when palm readers and fortune tellers start turning up dead, the situation catches the attention of Danny Rand, AKA THE IRON FIST! But this might be one paranormal problem too great for even Danny to take on alone…

Daughters of the Dragon (MDO) #1
Written by Jed MacKay
Art by Travel Foreman
A DOUBLE-SIZED Marvel Digital Original you don’t want to miss! MISTY KNIGHT and COLLEEN WING have stolen the shows on Marvel’s LUKE CAGE, IRON FIST and DEFENDERS on Netflix and now they have their own MDO series! This duo has been fighting crime as the Daughters of the Dragon for years but with Misty’s new job with the FBI, does this mean the two are splitzies? NOT ON YOUR LIFE! A crazy adventure that Colleen initiates puts comics’ two greatest ass-kickers on a collision course with a weird and scary side of the Marvel Universe that will have you on the edge of your seat.

 

[MenacingMonk]

These covers look basic AF, and follow the same format.

 

[parallax]

i still dont like that shuri synopsis. is this an alt universe thing?

 

[Primetime]

That's an infinitely better book cover for Shuri but 1) it's terrible planning to NOW do a soft recton of the character into her tech wizard MCU version when Ta-Nehisi just spent the last 2 years "reinventing" the character into the complete opposite of Disney's princess Shuri... and 2.) the writer is trash.

That this "Shuri is getting her own series!" has become news worthy, knowing damn well the book is gonna be trash and ppl are going to be giving it pity clap reviews feigning enjoyment before dropping the book in droves by issue 2 or 3, is disappointing. It's "World of Wakanda" all over again.

 

[R=G]

Uncanny x men returns this fall

Sinister is the villain in Iceman..Emma guest stars too

Havok's team is basically X men b listers. Apparently Havok and Dazzler take no shyt in it

X men black is a limited series about villains..creative teams

Magneto #1 – Chris Claremont / Dalibor Talajic

Mojo #1 – Scott Auckerman / Nick Bradhaw

Mystique #1 – Seanan McGuire / Marco Failla

Juggernaut #1 – Robbie Thompson / Shawn Crystal

Emma Frost #1 – Leah Williams / Chris Bachalo

 

[richaveli83]

Uncanny x men returns this fall

Havok's team is basically X men b listers. Apparently Havok and Dazzler take no shyt in it

X men black is a limited series about villains..creative teams

Magneto #1 – Chris Claremont / Dalibor Talajic

Mojo #1 – Scott Auckerman / Nick Bradhaw

Mystique #1 – Seanan McGuire / Marco Failla

Juggernaut #1 – Robbie Thompson / Shawn Crystal

Emma Frost #1 – Leah Williams / Chris Bachalo

 

[parallax]

Uncanny x men returns this fall

Sinister is the villain in Iceman..Emma guest stars too

Havok's team is basically X men b listers. Apparently Havok and Dazzler take no shyt in it

X men black is a limited series about villains..creative teams

Magneto #1 – Chris Claremont / Dalibor Talajic

Mojo #1 – Scott Auckerman / Nick Bradhaw

Mystique #1 – Seanan McGuire / Marco Failla

Juggernaut #1 – Robbie Thompson / Shawn Crystal

Emma Frost #1 – Leah Williams / Chris Bachalo

i wish they would have havok rock his 90s xfactor gear. every fit since has been hot trash.

i might have to give that emma frost series a look on bachalo alone....