Essential The Official Coli Horror Film Thread: Discussion, Recommendations And Murder.

[Jello Biafra]

LOVE & MONSTERS
Seven years after a “monsterpocalypse” forces all of humanity to move into underground colonies, Joel Dawson watches his fellow survivors pair off. He decides to brave the surface and face the monsters standing between himself and his high school sweetheart Aimee. Along his dangerous journey, Joel makes unlikely friends including a heroic dog and a pair of survivalists who help him survive the monster-infested road to true love.

 

[Jello Biafra]

"The 3 Michaels"

 

[Flex Grossman]

Watched into the marrow for the first time and the ritual last night. The monster from the ritual is still so fukking good. Marrow was pretty good for a found footage

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

This is crazy - think of the movie “single white female” except instead of your 20- something roommate; it’s someone’s grandma that is obsessively stalking you and trying to kill your friends due to uncontrollable rage and loneliness - (Cinemax)

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

I saw the movie review about this awhile back. He really honed his craft and immersed himself - severely underpaid and underrated. Had a wasp’s nest outside my house, I was ready to burn the house down

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Decent

 

[Jello Biafra]

Decent

I wasn't a fan.

On the positive side, I liked how they kept the home invaders faces obscured for most of the movie so they looked like malevolent shapes in the night more than human beings.

But aside from that I found this to be very mediocre take on the "home invasion" film that we've seen done better in so many other movies (HUSH, FUNNY GAMES, THE STRANGERS etc.).

I also found it a bit tacky to make such a derivative and straightforward low brow horror movie out of a real life event like the Tate Murders.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

I wasn't a fan.

On the positive side, I liked how they kept the home invaders faces obscured for most of the movie so they looked like malevolent shapes in the night more than human beings.

But aside from that I found this to be very mediocre take on the "home invasion" film that we've seen done better in so many other movies (HUSH, FUNNY GAMES, THE STRANGERS etc.).

I also found it a bit tacky to make such a derivative and straightforward low brow horror movie out of a real life event like the Tate Murders.

Basically every horror movie since this has been “inspired” by the Tate Murders. Real
Life events lead to horror movie subjects which is why I can’t look at a movie at being exploitative. Hostel was made from real life events, Nightmare on Elm Street, Jason, etc. if that’s the case, then every serial killer/murder movie type horror could be considered offensive or tacky. I’m not going to stop watching Rec or Quarantine bc of the Covid situation which would be equivalent to your rationale. Recently, the movie Host and the “Lyft driver from hell movie” those are based off incidents. Where I draw a discerning line is children. I don’t like the concept of kid victims for display in horror so I’m very avid about how that’s portrayed.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Basically every horror movie since this has been “inspired” by the Tate Murders. Real
Life events lead to horror movie subjects which is why I can’t look at a movie at being exploitative. Hostel was made from real life events, Nightmare on Elm Street, Jason, etc. if that’s the case, then every serial killer/murder movie type horror could be considered offensive or tacky. I’m not going to stop watching Rec or Quarantine bc of the Covid situation which would be equivalent to your rationale. Recently, the movie Host and the “Lyft driver from hell movie” those are based off incidents. Where I draw a discerning line is children. I don’t like the concept of kid victims for display in horror so I’m very avid about how that’s portrayed.

You are misunderstanding my point because I am not saying real life events can't used as fodder for film/TV

The Manson stuff is imprinted on the US cultural psyche and has been for 40 years. It's different than whatever obscure real life event inspired those other horror movies you mentioned. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was inspired by Ed Gein but it didn't depict Mary Hogan or Bernice Worden (Gein victims) as characters in the movie.

Abigail Folger, Wojciech Frykowski, Steven Parent, Jay Sebring, and Sharon Tate (and her unborn child) were all real living breathing people who were brutally murdered that night. They used their real names in this movie. Nothing was inspired about that, they tried to walk the line between docu-drama and horror movie and failed at it.

They have families and friends who are still alive to this day and with that knowledge it requires a more deft touch when using that as a basis for a movie. The people who made WOLVES AT THE DOOR were sorely lacking in that respect. They just made a mediocre home invasion horror movie.

An instance of using real life events and people as characters in a project is the Netflix show MANHUNTERS that does an amazing job mixing real life serial killers and their victims with made up characters to create a fascinating thriller series. They did it well while WOLVES AT THE DOOR is just forgettable tripe.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

You are misunderstanding my point because I am not saying real life events can't used as fodder for film/TV

The Manson stuff is imprinted on the US cultural psyche and has been for 40 years. It's different than whatever obscure real life event inspired those other horror movies you mentioned. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was inspired by Ed Gein but it didn't depict Mary Hogan or Bernice Worden (Gein victims) as characters in the movie.

Abigail Folger, Wojciech Frykowski, Steven Parent, Jay Sebring, and Sharon Tate (and her unborn child) were all real living breathing people who were brutally murdered that night. They used their real names in this movie. Nothing was inspired about that, they tried to walk the line between docu-drama and horror movie and failed at it.

They have families and friends who are still alive to this day and with that knowledge it requires a more deft touch when using that as a basis for a movie. The people who made WOLVES AT THE DOOR were sorely lacking in that respect. They just made a mediocre home invasion horror movie.

An instance of using real life events and people as characters in a project is the Netflix show MANHUNTERS that does an amazing job mixing real life serial killers and their victims with made up characters to create a fascinating thriller series. They did it well while WOLVES AT THE DOOR is just forgettable tripe.

I understand your point.

That Manson story is an entire research rabbit whole that I won’t go down on this thread but I think Roman Polanski was a lot more involved in his wife’s tragic situation than what the media sources would have the average American believe. That being said that there is not just coincidence that his wife’s murder was the same plot line and devices used in Rosemary’s Baby. That’s an issue that needs to be addressed as the real life coorelation between Sharon Tate’s Murder and Rosemary’s Baby - those circumstances need to be brought forth as consideration as well but historically it’s downplayed due to cult of personality that is Charles Manson. Ed Gein was highly publicized in Australia- even though names were replaced within movies but those families know the coorelation. Manhunt did deal with the Atlanta Child Murders effectively but again, there’s underlying stories about the actual perpetrators of those crimes but because of controversy, the only truth is what the media feeds us which I think can also be disrespectful to the victims.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Watched SPIRAL on Shudder today. It was pretty decent..a bit of a slow burn but I liked the GET OUT meets ROSEMARY'S BABY vibe it had.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

This was so interesting - The Wilhelm Scream and Iconic Sounds of Horror Cinema

 

[MartyMcFly]

You are misunderstanding my point because I am not saying real life events can't used as fodder for film/TV

The Manson stuff is imprinted on the US cultural psyche and has been for 40 years. It's different than whatever obscure real life event inspired those other horror movies you mentioned. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was inspired by Ed Gein but it didn't depict Mary Hogan or Bernice Worden (Gein victims) as characters in the movie.

Abigail Folger, Wojciech Frykowski, Steven Parent, Jay Sebring, and Sharon Tate (and her unborn child) were all real living breathing people who were brutally murdered that night. They used their real names in this movie. Nothing was inspired about that, they tried to walk the line between docu-drama and horror movie and failed at it.

They have families and friends who are still alive to this day and with that knowledge it requires a more deft touch when using that as a basis for a movie. The people who made WOLVES AT THE DOOR were sorely lacking in that respect. They just made a mediocre home invasion horror movie.

An instance of using real life events and people as characters in a project is the Netflix show MANHUNTERS that does an amazing job mixing real life serial killers and their victims with made up characters to create a fascinating thriller series. They did it well while WOLVES AT THE DOOR is just forgettable tripe.

I understand your point.

That Manson story is an entire research rabbit whole that I won’t go down on this thread but I think Roman Polanski was a lot more involved in his wife’s tragic situation than what the media sources would have the average American believe. That being said that there is not just coincidence that his wife’s murder was the same plot line and devices used in Rosemary’s Baby. That’s an issue that needs to be addressed as the real life coorelation between Sharon Tate’s Murder and Rosemary’s Baby - those circumstances need to be brought forth as consideration as well but historically it’s downplayed due to cult of personality that is Charles Manson. Ed Gein was highly publicized in Australia- even though names were replaced within movies but those families know the coorelation. Manhunt did deal with the Atlanta Child Murders effectively but again, there’s underlying stories about the actual perpetrators of those crimes but because of controversy, the only truth is what the media feeds us which I think can also be disrespectful to the victims.

Good discussion. @Jello Biafra when the hell did you start putting titles in all caps like you're yelling them at us?

 

[Jello Biafra]

Good discussion. @Jello Biafra when the hell did you start putting titles in all caps like you're yelling them at us?

I go in and out of doing it.

I had a writing coach a million years ago who said to capitalize works I was referencing in my writing to make them stand out or some other nonesen adn sometimes I find myself doing it without even realizing I'm doing it.

And I am really intrigued by how some people can walk the line and make stellar art utilizing real life people/events while other people just make exploitative schlock when they attempt to do it.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Good discussion. @Jello Biafra when the hell did you start putting titles in all caps like you're yelling them at us?

Because @Jello Biafra is yelling at us and speaking down at us from his podium - at least that’s how I interpret it because I know with the majority of my post replies, I’m yelling back at him. Respectfully