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beenz
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did anyone happen to see this yesterday on the news????
Tanahashi Coates
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did anyone happen to see this yesterday on the news????
He must've been on his phone. He's driving too straight to be falling asleep. Lose your $25 an hour job because of distracted driving brehs
Tenchi Ryu
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So what we think of the Rahm speech brehs?
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damn
kevthesureshot
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beenz
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kanye did a suprise appearance at the chance concert yesterday.
chance got the largest crowd all season in us cellular
this is certainly a good look in terms of getting more big time concerts on the south side.
chance got the largest crowd all season in us cellular
this is certainly a good look in terms of getting more big time concerts on the south side.
beenz
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drove thru englewood about an hour ago. 63rd and halsted is looking good. whole foods is finished, and starbucks and chipotle are nearly done as well 
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Rahm Emanuel Concerned Gun Violence Could Spread To Parts Of City He Gives shyt About
CHICAGO— Speaking with members of his staff in private Monday after receiving the most recent municipal crime statistics, Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel is said to have expressed his concern that the metropolitan area’s gun violence problem might soon spread to the parts of the city he actually gives a shyt about, sources reported. “Listen, we’re at 3,000 shootings this year and counting—it’s only a matter of time before this violence migrates from the areas of the city I don’t give a fukk about into the areas that actually matter in my eyes,” the second-term mayor reportedly said, adding that it would be devastating to see such senseless shootings affect residents outside of the large swaths of Chicago he has written off entirely. “If we don’t do something soon to keep guns off the streets of those particular neighborhoods that I consider worthwhile, things could really spiral out of control. Enough is enough when it comes to the parts of this city that I choose to serve.” At press time, Emanuel was breathing a sigh of relief after learning that six Chicagoans killed overnight were shot dead in neighborhoods he couldn’t care less about.
CHICAGO— Speaking with members of his staff in private Monday after receiving the most recent municipal crime statistics, Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel is said to have expressed his concern that the metropolitan area’s gun violence problem might soon spread to the parts of the city he actually gives a shyt about, sources reported. “Listen, we’re at 3,000 shootings this year and counting—it’s only a matter of time before this violence migrates from the areas of the city I don’t give a fukk about into the areas that actually matter in my eyes,” the second-term mayor reportedly said, adding that it would be devastating to see such senseless shootings affect residents outside of the large swaths of Chicago he has written off entirely. “If we don’t do something soon to keep guns off the streets of those particular neighborhoods that I consider worthwhile, things could really spiral out of control. Enough is enough when it comes to the parts of this city that I choose to serve.” At press time, Emanuel was breathing a sigh of relief after learning that six Chicagoans killed overnight were shot dead in neighborhoods he couldn’t care less about.
beenz
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Rahm Emanuel Concerned Gun Violence Could Spread To Parts Of City He Gives shyt About
CHICAGO— Speaking with members of his staff in private Monday after receiving the most recent municipal crime statistics, Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel is said to have expressed his concern that the metropolitan area’s gun violence problem might soon spread to the parts of the city he actually gives a shyt about, sources reported. “Listen, we’re at 3,000 shootings this year and counting—it’s only a matter of time before this violence migrates from the areas of the city I don’t give a fukk about into the areas that actually matter in my eyes,” the second-term mayor reportedly said, adding that it would be devastating to see such senseless shootings affect residents outside of the large swaths of Chicago he has written off entirely. “If we don’t do something soon to keep guns off the streets of those particular neighborhoods that I consider worthwhile, things could really spiral out of control. Enough is enough when it comes to the parts of this city that I choose to serve.” At press time, Emanuel was breathing a sigh of relief after learning that six Chicagoans killed overnight were shot dead in neighborhoods he couldn’t care less about.
this is from the onion.
beenz
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look at this. englewood whole foods prices are SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than in lincoln park.
Englewood Whole Foods Prices Are MUCH Cheaper Than Lincoln Park's
Englewood Whole Foods Prices Are MUCH Cheaper Than Lincoln Park's
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Englewood Whole Foods Prices Are MUCH Cheaper Than Lincoln Park's
By Kelly Bauer and Tanveer Ali | September 29, 2016 5:32am
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Prices for kale and vanilla ice cream are different at the Englewood Whole Foods Market (left) compared with the one in Lincoln Park.
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ENGLEWOOD — You might want to skip your local Whole Foods and head to Englewood the next time you go grocery shopping.
When plans were announced to open a Whole Foods in Englewood, a South Side food desert, officials said prices would be more affordable. On Wednesday, when the doors finally opened, the store put its money where its mouth is.
Compared to the Whole Foods' Lincoln Park location at 1550 N. Kingsbury St., prices on many items were far cheaper.
We comparison-shopped a grocery list of items. Check out the differences:
Allison Phelps, a Whole Foods spokeswoman, said shoppers should expect the prices to stay cheaper, but did acknowledge there were some grand opening sales.
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“We have grand opening specials and will run sales, but we believe fresh, healthy foods should be accessible to everyone in every community," Phelps said.
"We’ve worked across the board to lower prices at all our stores, and at our Englewood store, like all our stores, we’ve created a curated product mix based off of community needs and feedback from residents. We’re focusing on products that bring exceptional value like our 365 Everyday Value line; more conventional fruits and vegetables alongside organic offerings; and bulk products, as well as lower prices on key staple products.”
In practical terms, that means some items, including produce, diary, meat and seafood, are much cheaper at 63rd and Halsted.
An example of the gap: Whole milk — a must-buy item for many families with children — was selling for just $1.99 in Englewood, while it was priced at $4.19 in Lincoln Park. The price was the same — $5.99 — at both stores when it came to organic milk from Whole Foods' 365 product line.
A dozen large white eggs, just $1.99 at Englewood, were twice the price in Lincoln Park ($3.99). Fresh Atlantic salmon cost $12.99 per pound in Lincoln Park and $8.99 in Englewood on Wednesday.
George Lyke, of Englewood, said he came by the store opening to check out the prices for groceries. The prices in the produce section were noticeably cheaper than what he's seen at other Whole Foods, he said, and were "reflective of a more community price" to serve Englewood's residents. He plans to come back to the store.
"So far, I'm impressed," Lyke said. "Maybe not as great as I thought it would be, but nevertheless it does reflect a difference of pricing."
And in Englewood, some produce items — like a banana or cucumber — was priced per item, while those groceries were priced per pound in Lincoln Park.
Tina Hammond, of Englewood, said some of the items were more expensive than she was used to but she thought the cost was worth it for healthy food. She was able to sample chicken salad before deciding to buy it, saying that it might be "pricey" but it was "delicious" and worth the cost.
"Some of it [is] a little bit pricey ...," Hammond said. "Spending the extra money, if I have to, I don't mind doing that. It's my health. If I don't do it right now, I'm going to pay for it later."
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CTA moves forward on planned Red Line extension to Far South Side
Improvement I guess....
cacs hate'n
Improvement I guess....
cacs hate'n
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beenz
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CTA moves forward on planned Red Line extension to Far South Side
cacs hate'n
far south side is one of the ONLY areas not served by the L. hopefully this will give more businesses incentive to put offices in these areas.
beenz
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get a gander at this:
I never worry I'll be shot in Chicago. After all, I'm white.
I never worry I'll be shot in Chicago. After all, I'm white.
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I never worry I'll be shot in Chicago. After all, I'm white.
Chicago police investigate the scene where a 26-year-old man was shot in the chest Nov. 14, 2015 at Willye B. White Park in the 1600 block of West Howard Street in Chicago.
(Anthony Souffle / Chicago Tribune)
Edward McClellandSpecial To The Washington Post
For the past 18 years, I've walked regularly down Howard Street, on the far northern fringe of Chicago. It's a colorful marketplace of dollar stores, chicken shacks, West Indian restaurants, Arab-owned groceries and hip-hop sneaker shops. It's also the turf of Loyalty Over Cash, a Gangster Disciples faction that has been embroiled in a feud with the Insane Cutthroat Gangsters, another Gangster Disciples group operating a mile south. A few years ago, a drive-by gunman fired a bullet through a convenience store window, killing a customer inside. The store reopened two days later, without even covering the hole. The next week, a 16-year-old aspiring rapper was gunned down on a sidewalk at 3 in the morning. I got to the crime scene after the building engineer washed away the blood but before the TV van left.
Even in the midst of a gang war, I had no fear of getting shot. Why? Because I'm white.
There's a ridiculous trope — put forward by the makers of TV crime dramas, auto alarm systems, handguns and attack ads against soft-on-crime politicians — that white people who set foot in the inner city are prey for African-American criminals. Even my black neighbors believe it. "I think Caucasians who walk down this street are pretty brave," one of the sneaker store owners told me.
"I think the black people are brave," I said. "They're the ones who get shot."
Donald Trump brought up Chicago's violence in Monday night's presidential debate, arguing that the city needs to hire more police officers and adopt the stop-and-frisk policies which he credits with reducing New York City's murder rate, but which were ruled unconstitutional in 2013.
"We need law and order in the inner cities because the people that are most affected by what's happening are African-American and Hispanic," Trump said. He may not have the right solutions, but he is right about the racial disparities in the city's murders.
Chicago has more murders than any other city in the United States — more than New York and Los Angeles combined — but white people are nearly as safe here as in Europe. Through late September, more than 550 people in Chicago have been homicide victims this year. Of those, more than 400 were black, about 90 were Latino and fewer than 30 were "white/other," even though we're the most numerous ethnic category in the city and the surrounding area. (Fewer than 10 victims were categorized as being of "unknown" ethnicity.) The black murder rate last year was 46 per 100,000, higher than it was a decade ago. The white murder rate, which has declined, was 2.7. That means blacks are 17 times more likely to be murdered than whites.
Neighbors react near the scene where a school bus driver suffered a graze wound in the 4300 block of West Jackson Boulevard while driving students back to the school from downtown on Sept. 30, 2016. (Alyssa Pointer / Chicago Tribune)
Walking through a high-crime neighborhood without fear of being shot is the ultimate white privilege. Belonging to a conquering culture provides a free pass on another race's turf, an immunity from the violence that afflicts oppressed communities. Howard Street is the main drag of a neighborhood nicknamed the Juneway Jungle, or simply "the Jungle," but I've never been hassled there, even at 1 in the morning. I look so square that no one even tries to sell me weed.
Obviously, whites are not immune to all crime. There was an outbreak of "gooning," random beatings of pedestrians by youth mobs. One of my neighbors moved after he was strong-armed for his laptop. But those incidents fall far short of shootings, so they're not going to make the news in a city with two murders a day.
Chicago is more notorious for gang activity now than at any time since the days of Al Capone. Spike Lee came to town in 2015 to shoot a "Lysistrata" takeoff titled "Chi-Raq ," after a term coined by South Side rapper King Louie, who was shot in the head as he sat in a parked car last year. The BBC filmed a feature called "Life and death on the lost streets of Chicago," reporting from South and West side neighborhoods normally avoided by visitors, who confine themselves to the lakefront Green Zone.
The city has also become a whipping boy for conservative politicians and talking heads who blame its violence on (a) gun control, (b) eight decades of Democratic mayors or (c) absent fathers — all problems they say could be solved by electing Republicans. After basketball star Dwyane Wade's cousin was killed in gang crossfire this summer, Trump tweeted: "Just what I have been saying. African-Americans will VOTE TRUMP!" Like his promises to protect gun rights and restore law and order, Trump's concern for African American murder victims seems aimed more at addressing his white supporters' fears of urban violence than at trying to convince blacks that he cares about their problems. Personally, I think I'm more likely to be shot by a mentally unstable young man in a movie theater than by a gangbanger in my neighborhood. That may sound naive, but it's the naivete of experience.
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In my lifetime, which began in 1967, it's never been safer to be a white person in urban America. A study by a University of Chicago graduate student found that the city's decline in murders since the 1990s has disproportionately benefited white neighborhoods: They've become less violent, while black neighborhoods are now deadlier - an inequality of violence that mirrors the economic inequality in a city losing its middle class. Lincoln Square, home to Mayor Rahm Emanuel and the Von Steuben Day Parade, made famous in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off," is murder-free most years. In Englewood, the South Side neighborhood that spawned Chief Keef and Lil Durk, who won record deals by rapping about gang violence, almost 65 people have been murdered this year. Whites are far more likely to oppose gun control than blacks, but we're not the ones getting shot.
Chicago is famously segregated, but the experiences of blacks and whites don't vary just when we live in different neighborhoods. They vary within the same neighborhood. My census tract is 50 percent black and 37 percent white. That's integration. But when I walk past a group of black men standing in front of the currency exchange, we have entirely different expectations of getting shot or arrested. I've only been stopped by the police once. I was a wearing a parka that hid my face. As soon as I turned around, the cop waved me off. We're on the same sidewalk, but we live in different cities. The violence has touched those close to me — my church secretary's son was killed during a struggle over a gun with his father — but never me personally.
"No one is safer in communities of color than white folks," former New York City paramedic Daniel José Older wrote in Salon. White skin isn't bulletproof. It's more like a "force field . . . powered by the historically grounded assurance that the state and media will prosecute any untoward event."
"I'm the invisible man," says a white friend who works for a Howard Street social-service agency. Gangbangers don't bother us, because we're civilians in their conflicts. Also, we might be cops. Even if we aren't, we'll call the cops. We don't follow the snitch code that says gangs should police their own disputes, without getting the authorities involved. We assume the authorities will be on our side.
That's never been the case in the black community, and it's even less so now, after highly publicized police shootings have further eroded trust in law enforcement. In Chicago, the coverup of the shooting of 17-year-old Laquan McDonald reached all the way to the mayor's office. University of Missouri at St. Louis criminologist Richard Rosenfeld believes police shootings may have contributed to violence in 10 cities with large African American populations — including Chicago, Cleveland, Washington and St. Louis — that accounted for two-thirds of the increase in big-city murders in 2015.
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"When persons do not trust the police to act on their behalf and to treat them fairly and with respect, they lose confidence in the formal apparatus of social control and become more likely to take matters into their own hands," Rosenfeld wrote in "Documenting and Explaining the 2015 Homicide Rise: Research Directions," a report he prepared for the National Institute of Justice. "Interpersonal disputes are settled informally and often violently. Honor codes develop that encourage people to respond with violence to threats and disrespect. Predatory violence increases because offenders believe victims and witnesses will not contact the police. Individuals engage in 'self-help' and entire communities become 'stateless' social locations."
(Trump supporters such as former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani like to turn the "Black Lives Matter" slogan around on the black community by arguing that blacks are greater threats to each other than the police are, which ignores the fact that law and order breaks down when the law itself becomes a source of disorder.)
A few years ago, I spent several weeks on the arsoned-out east side of Detroit, researching a book about Rust Belt cities. One of the locals was so unnerved by my exoticism that he demanded to know what I was doing on his street.
"It's not usual to see a white person here," he said. "You might be a cop."
What I was doing was exercising my white privilege — to go wherever I want without worrying about anyone shooting at me.
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McClelland is the author of "Nothin' but Blue Skies: The Heyday, Hard Times and Hopes of America's Industrial Heartland."
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