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[ChocolateGiddyUp]

I dont know. Ask Lundy. The nikka couldve priced himself out. See, when the network puts up the check....then you got that much to split. Mandos get 25% at purse bid. Lundy aint no mando so he would have to agree to less or Haymon tell him
Would Lundy agree to fight Danny on national tv for $100k while Danny get $1mil? I honestly dont know. Like I said, what did Lundy say?

Lundy is desperate for attention

There ain't no real beef

The same exact shyt he said bout Swift he said bout Crawford... Talking shyt, no respect, he'd beat them, they scary etc...

 

[patscorpio]

but this is what I am in here tryin to tell nikkas. Brook probably tellin Hearn...get me that nikka Thurman now! Hearn like

pump ya brakes my dude.....we gotta milk this for a min. Thurman a lil too dangerous to be up and riskin shyt you just got

This was similar to the same way I felt after Ortiz lifted that belt off Berto. I wanted him to sit on his title a little and get a little more seasoning...not jump into a major fight like he did against floyd

 

[surv2syn]

This was similar to the same way I felt after Ortiz lifted that belt off Berto. I wanted him to sit on his title a little and get a little more seasoning...not jump into a major fight like he did against floyd

Ortiz was too unstable. He was liable to lose to the right opponent. Oscar fight made him rich. By the same token, Brook is vunerable too. I say take Khan. thats the best risk vs reward fight for him. Thurman is the worst.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Get paws put on you by a Mexican in Puerto Rico while you were falling in line the whole time

Who won that fight friend?? Who did you have winning that fight friend??

Getting in line got us headlining Barclay's...blasting out Khan who was next for Floyd, breaking the most over hyped fighter in years face on the biggest ppvs ever, fights in PR, N a fan base that'll watch you fight the nikka selling gyros

You know what happens when you don't get in line?? Ask Ward

 

[surv2syn]

Lundy is desperate for attention

There ain't no real beef

The same exact shyt he said bout Swift he said bout Crawford... Talking shyt, no respect, he'd beat them, they scary etc...

Lundy just wanna fight anybody. He talk all that shyt, but he wouldve knocked Crawford out, etc...etc...but Lundy dont bring no bank. Same reason we about to fight Beltran. Beltran is deserving....not just some dude poppin shyt. Lundy is a good fighter, but he one of them guys who has to hype himself up by saying he will fight for free, then the nikka be talmbout $100k aint enough bread.

 

[Newzz]

You bringing up rematches again

Paulie & Ponce would like to have a word with you

Did Ponce De Leon make tweets or constantly call out for a rematch like Lucas Matthysse and Mauricio Herrera is doing?

Didnt Paulie Malignaggi say that he didnt want to fight AB, because he lost the belt to Maidana?

Wasnt AB at the Shawn Porter vs Paulie Malignaggi fight saying he wanted to look into making Adrien Broner vs Paulie Malignaggi 2 if Paulie won

Unbiased eyes...your boy Dan Rafael had it a draw plenty of nikkas had it a draw or one point either way

The MAJORITY of people watching and scoring the fight had it for Mauricio Herrera. Herrera won that fight, and if you wasnt stanning so hard, you'd be able to admit it and STILL be able to keep swagging like #BandCamp does......but that's what seperates a Main Event stable like #BandCamp from the midcard factions like #swiftset

The sad part is Herrera would be top 3 W on Mr. I fight who I want resume N for #swiftset it was a homecoming

The sad part about it is that regardless of all that.....The Problem is STILL a bigger star than Danny Garcia, makes more per fight, and draws in more ratings, and has actually stepped in weight to challenge at the higher weight classes while Danny continues to shrink down 40 or so pounds every time out just so he can have the size advantage.

Danny has fought 1 fight at welterweight in his career and he came into the fight at 155+ lbs against a 135lber he dragged up 2 divisions

AB beat a 2x Champion at 147 and lost to the guy who just gave Floyd the toughest fight of his career besides JLC 1



#BandCamp

 

[krackdagawd]

Who won that fight friend?? Who did you have winning that fight friend??

Getting in line got us headlining Barclay's...blasting out Khan who was next for Floyd, breaking the most over hyped fighter in years face on the biggest ppvs ever, fights in PR, N a fan base that'll watch you fight the nikka selling gyros

You know what happens when you don't get in line?? Ask Ward

Not getting in line makes you the #2 p4p

Meanwhile Danny taking orders and still struggling.

As far as Ward's fanbase go check the Edwin #s baby we good ova hea

Just because he won(barely) doesn't mean he ain't get paws put on him and has been cowering in fear ever since.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

but this is what I am in here tryin to tell nikkas. Brook probably tellin Hearn...get me that nikka Thurman now! Hearn like

pump ya brakes my dude.....we gotta milk this for a min. Thurman a lil too dangerous to be up and riskin shyt you just got

Interesting article here, talking about the struggle for British boxers in the US.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11374872/success-come-easy-us-british-fighters

Really why I don't mind Brook taking fights not against the most deserving, as long as they are decent opponents, until he can try to cash his big fight ticket.
Brook will have a near impossible time crossing over into the US, unless he wins big fights against name opponents. If he starts taking L's, he will be relegated to fighting in the UK. Sure he will make good money there, but he will be left off major network boxing and won't get fights vs. other top 147 pounders.
The fact that his belt isn't the real one helps as well. We won't criticize him for career moves as Mayweather has the true WW champion title.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Did Ponce De Leon make tweets or constantly call out for a rematch like Lucas Matthysse and Mauricio Herrera is doing?

Didnt Paulie Malignaggi say that he didnt want to fight AB, because he lost the belt to Maidana?

Wasnt AB at the Shawn Porter vs Paulie Malignaggi fight saying he wanted to look into making Adrien Broner vs Paulie Malignaggi 2 if Paulie






The MAJORITY of people watching and scoring the fight had it for Mauricio Herrera. Herrera won that fight, and if you wasnt stanning so hard, you'd be able to admit it and STILL be able to keep swagging like #BandCamp does......but that's what seperates a Main Event stable like #BandCamp from the midcard factions like #swiftset






The sad part about it is that regardless of all that.....The Problem is STILL a bigger star than Danny Garcia, makes more per fight, and draws in more ratings, and has actually stepped in weight to challenge at the higher weight classes while Danny continues to shrink down 40 or so pounds every time out just so he can have the size advantage.

Danny has fought 1 fight at welterweight in his career and he came into the fight at 155+ lbs against a 135lber he dragged up 2 divisions

AB beat a 2x Champion at 147 and lost to the guy who just gave Floyd the toughest fight of his career besides JLC 1



#BandCamp

So its OK to not give rematches to close fights if they don't tweet bout it

But if they tweet bout you you gotta rematch em

Swift isn't challenging himself cuz hes stayed at 140 N cleaned it out...meanwhile you Stan Ward

MasterNewzz bringing up ratings N $$ made...whats next you goin brag bout his worldstar views N mixtape sales

 

[Newzz]

I dont know. Ask Lundy. The nikka couldve priced himself out. See, when the network puts up the check....then you got that much to split. Mandos get 25% at purse bid. Lundy aint no mando so he would have to agree to less or Haymon tell him
Would Lundy agree to fight Danny on national tv for $100k while Danny get $1mil? I honestly dont know. Like I said, what did Lundy say?

They didnt ask Lundy....or even Karim Mayfield as far as they've both stated. Both were available and would've been MUCH better fights (as far as how it looked to the fans knowing the back story) plus able to give Danny Garcia good work before inevitably getting KO'd or losing by UD in good scrap for Garcia.

 

[Black_Jesus]

so there wasnt a higher ranked soft touch out of those 967 nigggas? he just went for number 968?

u nikkas is str8 dumb. if Showtime approved the shyt then obviously they dont feel that way. but you know more than Showtime? bet u watched that shyt too, didnt u?

I'd like to know your list of approved names.

lemme just throw out lightweight names that are bigger....

Mickey Bey. he is not a top 10 ranked lightweight no matter what sanctioning body says he is. He aint gonna risk no title shot against an easier fighter at LW.

Ricardo Alvarez. just about as high as ranked as Salka with a bigger name, being Canelo's brother and all....but wait...Salka beat him. I would consider him an even softer touch WHO IS HIGHER RANKED....wouldnt you?

Juan Diaz. Why he aint want it? Bigger name. Fought top opponents. Held multi titles. Betcha he didnt want it.

Here's a good one....Darleys Perez. Only lost to Gamboa. ON a 2 fight win streak since. Why not him. He is promoted by Gary Shaw. Easy match to make, if a nikka wanna get his ass whooped for $100k. Betcha he didnt want it either.

and those are just LWs. I can name many more LWs and JWWs.

I remember when I used to criticize Eddie Murphy growing up because I couldnt understand why he wasnt making that many movies. Even with Box Office hits early in his career he was only making 1-2 movies a year. I felt there was no way he should be doing less than 2 or 3 per year. Like nikkas told me though....this shyt aint as easy as you think it is.

Whats more likely my nikka? This farfetched bullshyt about all these nikkas you named basically ducking Garcia?(Because thats what you're pretty much saying) and Salka was the best Al Haymon could muster as an opponent for Swift...OR Garcia wanted the softest touch he possibly can get after going life and death with Herrera?? And the fact that you naming lightweight matchups vs the Lineal 140 champ shows how much of a joke that fight was.... bu but Showtime approved it, so I guess the fight was legit.... right??

Act like Al Haymon is litTERally god and his fighters who hold multiple belts dont have any options outside of what Al selects brehs.... Be that stupid brehs

 

[surv2syn]

Yeah, that is the problem. I can say it needs to be reformed because there are a lot of glaring weaknesses that are pretty much universally agreed upon...but in my mind it may be the hardest to actually do anything about and I don't have a clue how it would actually work.

Reality is it is different than the NBA and NFL because it is individuals. It can't be like Tennis or Golf, because those are tournaments involving the entire field of potential candidates over a short period of time, not possible in boxing. The fact that you have to have individual fighters sell fights that are a matchup between 2 guys, there will always be the fact that someone like Rios (popular) will be more visible and treated better than a less popular, yet more talented fighter like Rigo.
Looking at the UFC, White still schedules fights based on popularity and ratings.

Not sure there is a way to make boxing truly just. I love the sport and will continue to be a fan, but admit I am not a fan of the business side.

You just answered you own question breh. Cant be like Tennis or Golf because the premise is different. Its built off of machismo. Gladiator shyt. Intrigue. Woods vs Mickleson generates excitement but only to a particular demographic. This bloodsport attracts fans from 8 to 80. from the barrios to the bricks. it has crossover appeal to women of all ages. its has WWE element except a dude can be a nobody and win a championship. its runs off popularity but ones without still have a chance. its like the American Dream. beautiful depending on how you apply it but severely flawed and incorrigible due to being rooted in capitalism.

 

[surv2syn]

Whats more likely my nikka? This farfetched bullshyt about all these nikkas you named basically ducking Garcia?(Because thats what you're pretty much saying) and Salka was the best Al Haymon could muster as an opponent for Swift...OR Garcia wanted the softest touch he possibly can get after going life and death with Herrera?? And the fact that you naming lightweight matchups vs the Lineal 140 champ shows how much of a joke that fight was.... bu but Showtime approved it, so I guess the fight was legit.... right??

Act like Al Haymon is litTERally god and his fighters who hold multiple belts dont have any options outside of what Al selects brehs.... Be that stupid brehs

I said sho approved it merely to say, they couldve approved any of the other 76 dudes....so why didnt they? but put all the blame on 25 year old.

the more I read your posts the more I am convinced you are illiterate. and illiterate not meaning you cant read (maybe that too) but you cant comprehend. I didnt say these guys were ducking. I just asked why didnt they get the fight because you claim 76 nikkas wouldve died to be in Salkas shoes but aint name nary one.



I asked you for a list of fighters and u aint said shyt....so fukk outta here

 

[Black_Jesus]

They didnt ask Lundy....or even Karim Mayfield as far as they've both stated. Both were available and would've been MUCH better fights (as far as how it looked to the fans knowing the back story) plus able to give Danny Garcia good work before inevitably getting KO'd or losing by UD in good scrap for Garcia.

Aint Lundy the nikka who said he'd fight Danny for free?? You got nikkas dying for just 1 opportunity. There's no way their all pricing themselves himself out.. nikka wildin

 

[Newzz]

really, I aint talkin bout Swift in particular. I am debatin with you nikkas saying fighters pick who they are gonna fight and if they dont wanna fight a dude they tell their management team

yall always say Floyd picking his opponents. aint that easy. Floyd can scope a nikka out...but then that dude has to be built up. Maidana was no where near the Mayweather radar til he beat Broner. yet had Broner won neither of them wouldve faced Floyd.

Im not talking bout you breh....just the people who constantly defending that farce of a fight.


I said my peace in the lead up TO the fight, now Im just rehashing/remixing my posts


Garcia's cockiness after that fight is what's making people go in on him though. Acting like he did something when in actually, ANY Champion would KO the #77 ranked opponent at the division below them, who only has 3 KOs in their career, by dragging said fighter up 2 divisions and outweighing him by 15+ lbs on fight night. Swift's arrogance after that fight was corny.


AB said after the Molina fight that he just had a sparring match....Subway Swift talked big as if he fought someone other than the local Middle School's Crossing Guard