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[Axum Ezana]

147 paper Champ "loses to anybody good at 147" rumored to fight Molina...boxing world loses its fukking mind...cherries "ducking berto" all types of fukkery

140 unified Ring Champ supposedly beats close to errybody at 147...rumored to fight Molina...not a fukking peep




We got muhfukkers in here crying about Malignaggi N Ghost erry day...but its ok for Crawford to fight Molina like he stays in wars...like Lundy N Jean didn't happen 



Now let me make some shyt clear @hyperman25 none of this is in regards to you... You keep it 100 with your stanning... N I also don't even care if he does fight Molina...I get that fight...hes a name...its better then no fight til 2017 etc...


But Crawford who stay throwing shade bout easy fights...boxing twitter, boxing media N muhfukkers here with there "bu bu bu bu but its ok, its really different" can get all the way tf outta here

true but based on resumes everyone not named pac/cotto/jmm etc is a cherry pick for craw. shyt even spence...see. so we going by the eye test okay that's great but that's subjective opinionated taste also.

what we going by rankings from the ring magazine or what. the coli? any other random p4p list?

who has the better win out of felix or molina? beating provo the c class killer or beating Vazquez the unproven prospect?

u can say Molina has more losses true but I can say he fought better opponents...plus losses on paper don't determine who the best fighter is, but the action in the ring does.

look im not tryna say "hey its okay for craw to fight Molina" im saying if u like the diaz fight then u shouldn't mind this one cause FACTUALLY neither one has that much more impressive resume over another. if u think the one does then u are trollin and im not responding back to you.

neither one can test craw chin which everyone seems to be worried about....everybody on here say craw a good boxer but they don't trust his chin.

look ive said it before and ill say it now...I wont be impressed with craw until he moves up and face he elite at pbc. if he stays at 140 then I got problem with him, when now he can have acess to better fighters and don't have to chase pac"m going back down to 135"man ass.

 

[Newzz]

don't worry the start of him fighting pbc guys looks good for broner/craw. just wait.

plus yall busy talking bout other stuff like c00niaz and don't never push that broner fight. u said one thing bout it if I remember but u don't never text craw or broner on twitter and tell them u want the fight.

yall need to push the fight or settle down.

plus what happened with burns/broner? I thought that was gonna be a way since he wants them belts.(if broner would have beat burns)

We are fans...we cant push a fight. It's up to the promoters to do that. But, to the bolded, I don't have to do any of that, especially since I aint getting paid by PBC or Top Rank to play matchmaker.



Where are your tweets calling for the fight thought breh?

 

[Axum Ezana]

@sogsoldier

nikkas love to waive that future hall of famer shyt.

more like hall of larrry holmes gardens.

if ur fav fighter got koed while he was flabby n sick by a young gun u would cap...but but but but he was older then.

but now ur young gun(Garcia) is whooping larryholmes residents then u wanna praise it likes its good comp? foh

plus when Garcia fought them I didn't even care....cause he was tryn a get used to ww.

I remember arguments on why he shouldn't have to face tough comp right away tho.

 

[Newzz]

Judah was way past his prime and Morales was so past his prime that he shouldn't even been allowed in the rig anymore. Pretty much like RJJ now.
Salka as an opponent was not comparable to aybody Crawford fought as a world champion, Salka is still a punchline and it's not coincidental.
Matthysse was really a nice win for Garcia, I never said otherwise.
And finally, Herrera was a showcase, homecoming fight going wrong.

If you ask me Crawford's weaker opponents are still better than Danny's.


and Idk about boxing media, and idc now... I had Danny in my p4p top 10 actually but then he went on to fight weaker opponents and when he didn't then he stopped being impressive, in fact on my scorecard he lost both to Herrera and Peterson on close fights. For me his showing against Matthysse was the last really impressive thing I've seen from him.
If we look at his resume on paper he is still unbeaten so he is still arguably P4P top 10 but if I include my scorecards ad my opinion o his fights then not anymore.

Herrera beat Lundy already.

And there's 0 way that Thomas Dulorme or Dierry Jean or John Molina beats the versions of Morales or Judah that Swift defeated. Sorry



My point was, if Swift can be called a cherry picker at 140 with the resume he held in that division, Crawford is not above being called a cherry picker as well then

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

true but based on resumes everyone not named pac/cotto/jmm etc is a cherry pick for craw. shyt even spence...see. so we going by the eye test okay that's great but that's subjective opinionated taste also.

what we going by rankings from the ring magazine or what. the coli? any other random p4p list?

who has the better win out of felix or molina? beating provo the c class killer or beating Vazquez the unproven prospect?

u can say Molina has more losses true but I can say he fought better opponents...plus losses on paper don't determine who the best fighter is, but the action in the ring does.

look im not tryna say "hey its okay for craw to fight Molina" im saying if u like the diaz fight then u shouldn't mind this one cause FACTUALLY neither one has that much more impressive resume over another. if u think the one does then u are trollin and im not responding back to you.

neither one can test craw chin which everyone seems to be worried about....everybody on here say craw a good boxer but they don't trust his chin.

look ive said it before and ill say it now...I wont be impressed with craw until he moves up and face he elite at pbc. if he stays at 140 then I got problem with him, when now he can have acess to better fighters and don't have to chase pac"m going back down to 135"man ass.

N I don't mind the Molina fight...I won't say hes ducking Diaz either

My issue is people wanna shyt on Swift N AB N erry other PBC fighter for they opp

But  for the othersides shytty opp...we see it all the Damn time...Kovalev fighting a washed Pascale the 2nd Time, GGG 90% of the time, Crawford vs Lundy, Molina etc


I was in here  at Molina for Swift...threatening to leave #swiftset

Others were shytting on it just as much


The same damn opp is for Crawford... Who is held in higher regards by errybody over Danny N its .... "Well you see its different because "


nikkas can't keep it 100....they wanna use logic N shyt when discussing who they like...then go full retard when its someone they dont

 

[Axum Ezana]

We are fans...we cant push a fight. It's up to the promoters to do that. But, to the bolded, I don't have to do any of that, especially since I aint getting paid by PBC or Top Rank to play matchmaker.



Where are your tweets calling for the fight thought breh?

I know u don't but u don't have any problems telling him to fight bum ass iman so thought u would be cool.

u seemed to like to talk on twitter a lot to boxers and such

 

[reservoirdogs]

after all these Swift debates going on here it will be so satisfying when Thurman takes that 0

 

[Newzz]

Why the hell Broner vs Crawford wouldN't happen.
It makes very much sense.

Crawford usually don't call out people but if he says he will collect all the belts in jww then that's automatically means that he calls out the other champions.

So why didn't he call out AB when he had the belt?


How come he didn't start calling out for the WBA Championship until Burns got it?

 

[Newzz]

he only been at 140 for a year and a half,big difference

He's basing himself moving up STRICTLY on having all the belts....that is GGG's approach.

 

[Newzz]

yep not comparable at all in terms of 10 years but we don't want it to become 10 years either.

craw needs to move up to 147 since everyone at 140 is ducking.

Who's ducking Crawford at 140?



I could've swore Amir Imam and Felix Diaz are foaming at the mouth to get in the ring with him?

 

[Newzz]

They throw that word around too loosely . ab can earn more against burns. fighting diaz would be dumb

True, but I don't mind AB moving strategically around the board


Why fight a Diaz, when we can fight a Burns.......for a belt?



#AboutBillions


:aboutbillions:

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Herrera beat Lundy already.

And there's 0 way that Thomas Dulorme or Dierry Jean or John Molina beats the versions of Morales or Judah that Swift defeated. Sorry



My point was, if Swift can be called a cherry picker at 140 with the resume he held in that division, Crawford is not above being called a cherry picker as well then

I wish I could rep you


Morales had jus Gave Maidana hell

Zab had jus beat an undefeated fighter N was back to being highly ranked

Discredit them fighters...when the next man got Lundy N Jean scalps a bunch of never was scrubs

 

[Newzz]

147 paper Champ "loses to anybody good at 147" rumored to fight Molina...boxing world loses its fukking mind...cherries "ducking berto" all types of fukkery

140 unified Ring Champ supposedly beats close to errybody at 147...rumored to fight Molina...not a fukking peep




We got muhfukkers in here crying about Malignaggi N Ghost erry day...but its ok for Crawford to fight Molina like he stays in wars...like Lundy N Jean didn't happen 



Now let me make some shyt clear @hyperman25 none of this is in regards to you... You keep it 100 with your stanning... N I also don't even care if he does fight Molina...I get that fight...hes a name...its better then no fight til 2017 etc...


But Crawford who stay throwing shade bout easy fights...boxing twitter, boxing media N muhfukkers here with there "bu bu bu bu but its ok, its really different" can get all the way tf outta here

Yep

 

[Newzz]

yall act so forgetful sometimes.

we forget everyone(who was worth fighting) ducked him back then......we forget just pages ago we all agreed that taking easy fights when u first enter a division is okay.

we forget ....we forget.

Who agreed to that?


I stayed going at @ChocolateGiddyUp about Swift's Welterweight opponents when he moved & also at him for Swift even being rumored to face Sugar John Molina.....it just wouldn't be "consistent" to not do so with Crawford, now would it friend?

 

[Newzz]

those were not cherry picks.

Both of those are solid contenders. Nothing extra or elite but solid contenders. Not washed Morales, Samuel Vargas or Rod Salka. (if lately already everyone wants to trace back all my comments to my opinion on Swift and his fukkery).
Plus if I'm correct one of those was a mandatory for Crawford and not his own pick