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saw someone comment and say it makes no sense for all 4 bodies to allow one person to have all the belts. I want to say, its better this way. We know who the real champ is. Poster must have been born in early 2000's. Back in the day when 3 belts made you undisputed, those champs made ALL of their mandos unless for some reason they couldnt. the problem today is fighters want to fight who they want to fight, not who is deserving. Like Tank does.

 
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Berlanga is part of whats wrong with boxing. lost to a legend and now he think he one.

likewise with Gabe Rosado going at it with Bill Haney. Gabe named about 6 fighters he faced, bragging about his opposition. everyone he named he lost to. fool was bragging about facing Angulo who ktfo him in 2 rounds. the Haney disrespect is wild.

 

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ok, will post a source in a few if you guys didnt already, but Bivol is going to vacate the WBC to make way for the trilogy. saw someone comment and say it makes no sense for all 4 bodies to allow one person to have all the belts. I want to say, its better this way. We know who the real champ is. Poster must have been born in early 2000's. Back in the day when 3 belts made you undisputed, those champs made ALL of their mandos unless for some reason they couldnt. the problem today is fighters want to fight who they want to fight, not who is deserving. Like Tank does.
This logic would imply that Beterbiev isn't deserving even tho they're 1-1 against each other.

No disrespect to Benavidez and mandos are mandos. But I want to see them break the tie for undisputed before either of them decide to move on to their next opponent.
 

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ok, will post a source in a few if you guys didnt already, but Bivol is going to vacate the WBC to make way for the trilogy. saw someone comment and say it makes no sense for all 4 bodies to allow one person to have all the belts. I want to say, its better this way. We know who the real champ is. Poster must have been born in early 2000's. Back in the day when 3 belts made you undisputed, those champs made ALL of their mandos unless for some reason they couldnt. the problem today is fighters want to fight who they want to fight, not who is deserving. Like Tank does.



Why doesn’t Salamander play the same game with Canelo though? He’s held belts hostage and done what he wants for 5 years almost now? WBC let him hold it?

We back chicanos?
 

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Why doesn’t Salamander play the same game with Canelo though? He’s held belts hostage and done what he wants for 5 years almost now? WBC let him hold it?

We back chicanos?

Well that’s everyone thing is they never enforced that shyt but now they want to. Bivol said Turki looked out so he will try to oblige him first over the WBC.
 

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This logic would imply that Beterbiev isn't deserving even tho they're 1-1 against each other.

No disrespect to Benavidez and mandos are mandos. But I want to see them break the tie for undisputed before either of them decide to move on to their next opponent.

My post may not have been clear. I agree with fighters holding all titles. I do believe there should be some optional defenses. Beterbiev is deserving for one, secondly I believe Bivol will consider making a fight with David after. While I believe in mandos being enforced this is bullshyt on WBC part because they let Canelo hold that belt hostage while David was mando for like 3 years. Disgraceful. Let them fight then mandate. By going this route it makes a fight with David less likely. Bivol won’t need a belt he already gave up and he won’t be mandated to fight him. WBC trying to force a Bivol fight for more sanctioning fees may have backfired.
 
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In all honestly the belts coulda been vacated after the first fight, we know who the man is. Bivol achieved formel undisputed and the winner of fight 3 is the man so the belts don't even matter anymore
 

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In all honestly the belts coulda been vacated after the first fight, we know who the man is. Bivol achieved formel undisputed and the winner of fight 3 is the man so the belts don't even matter anymore

Fighters don’t want to give up belts :yeshrug:

That 2nd fight Bivol paid anywhere from $1.2mil to $2 mil just to keep them shyts
 

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Well that’s everyone thing is they never enforced that shyt but now they want to. Bivol said Turki looked out so he will try to oblige him first over the WBC.
WBC/Salamander got shyt on by Turki/Ring recently with that 'no belts on stage aside from Ring belt' flex from Turki re Canelo.

Salamander even made a post about it.

I don't think Turki has much sway in any of this.
 
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