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Name Roys PPV fights instead of talking out your ass, nobody was surely paying to watch him demolish bums
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
dont know what you were watching in the 90's and early 2000's but I distinctly remember watching RJJ fight on HBO for damn near all of his fights after the Toney fight
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
Name Roys PPV fights instead of talking out your ass, nobody was surely paying to watch him demolish bums
Jones-Toney and Jones-Ruiz were both on PPV. Like I said majority of his fights were on regular HBO with a couple of PPV shows as well
i never understood why roy left the heavyweight division..john ruiz was a bum but he could punch like a regular heavyweight and he had no trouble handling ruiz's power...he could have had title unifications with chris byrd, face holyfield or tyson, hell even jones-toney 2..there were fights there that were worth his while financially..because, talent aside, most of his fights from the time he blew away montell griffin in the first round in the rematch to the clinton woods fight were not must sees..just glorified flamboyant sparring sessions
he should have fought dariusz during that time too since he was the actual lineal light heavyweight champ (im a stickler for that) before dariusz got ruined in them 2 wars with richard hall (woefully underrated fights)..the biggest mistake roy made with his matchmaking was not fighting bernard hopkins again in 2002..that was the ultimate moneymaker rematch..everyone wanted to see that fight..the stars were aligned and roy fukked it all up with the negotiations..60-40 for a cat who was at equal footing as him at the time..thats insulting..i was pissed when roy fought clinton woods instead
then of course he fukked up his body draining to 175..suffer damaging losses and his career has never been the same and now it looks like he's on his way to being another boxing brain damage casualty
roy had a win over b hop already.
there was nothing wrong with a 60/40 split
Willy Waffle
Willy Da Waffleman
i agree with the 60/40 going roys way but hopkins had a case.
from 95 to 02 he took over the division after roy left, hadn't lost since the roy fight in 93 and on top of that he came out the middleweight tournament the winner after knocking out trinidad, which was big at the time. i can see where bernard was coming from with the 50/50. i don't blame him for the stubborness.
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
One of my favorite quotes of alltime was Roy saying "60-40 get your a** kicked" LMAO
maybe if hopkins didn't have a lost to roy, he would have a case.
they should have settle for a 55/45 spilt.
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
Hopkins would've lost a rematch anyway during the 90's. I love BHop but his middleweight resume is borderline awful.
dont be editing my shyt bytch, please state his PPV matches and numbers if he was such a big draw, shyttttttttttt the Glen Johnson match wasn't even PPV and that was Roy after he reached his pinnacle
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while calling out and beating WW's ala Serg Martinez. BHOP that nikka though he gets a passYou take a L vs a man, he should of jumped at 60/40 in a fight where he had everything to gain and nothing to lose. One of the clearest and shameful displays of ducking
BHOP gets a pass though clever muthafukker beats up and calls out WW's then wait on Roy to get old n shot to beat him, in close match too
, Roy would always present problems for BHOP, BHOP can't deal with speed never would could, and even shot Roy still posses mind blowing speeda Floyd Maynever GOAT dikkrider, criticising Roy Jones for ducking??
How dare you
Why are you always on my dikk, I love the sport why and enjoy the banter why you mad, the boxing world doesn't revolve around Mayweather or Pacquiao, we talking about Roy, but but but Floyd.......... hop off my dikk and Manny's while you're at it
Mad nikkas wanted to see a Roy/Tyson fight. shyt would of prolly did good ppv numbers as well.
Roy would of been the favorite too since nobody looked at Tyson at that time as a serious threat after the 3rd round. Fight would of generated a lot of money. Roy could of made it happen but I don't think he was confident enough that he'd win.
Roy got buzzed by Ruiz in one of the early rounds and you could see his knees buckle slightly. I think that kind of spooked him so he decided not to pursue it. He was in a win-win situation really. If he would of gotten KO'ed, people would of been like "Well, he did start off as a middleweight and Tyson was one of the best punchers ever." If he would of won, the casual fans still looked at Tyson as semi dangerous so he would of gotten props from them.
Roy could have fought Bryd, but the demand wasn't there like that plus the style match up probably wouldn't have made for an entertaining fight.
I don't think Roy really ducked anybody like that though. Hopkins was the one who bytched out the rematch. If Hopkins wanted to avenge his defeat that bad he would of taken 60/40. Roy was still p4p 1, the bigger star, a ppv fighter, and he held the win over dude. Yeah Hopkins had the most recent big win, but he's the one who should want to avenge his loss. Ain't that what's most important out of all of this.
Roy would of been the favorite too since nobody looked at Tyson at that time as a serious threat after the 3rd round. Fight would of generated a lot of money. Roy could of made it happen but I don't think he was confident enough that he'd win.
Roy got buzzed by Ruiz in one of the early rounds and you could see his knees buckle slightly. I think that kind of spooked him so he decided not to pursue it. He was in a win-win situation really. If he would of gotten KO'ed, people would of been like "Well, he did start off as a middleweight and Tyson was one of the best punchers ever." If he would of won, the casual fans still looked at Tyson as semi dangerous so he would of gotten props from them.
Roy could have fought Bryd, but the demand wasn't there like that plus the style match up probably wouldn't have made for an entertaining fight.
I don't think Roy really ducked anybody like that though. Hopkins was the one who bytched out the rematch. If Hopkins wanted to avenge his defeat that bad he would of taken 60/40. Roy was still p4p 1, the bigger star, a ppv fighter, and he held the win over dude. Yeah Hopkins had the most recent big win, but he's the one who should want to avenge his loss. Ain't that what's most important out of all of this.