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[Newzz]

because... the context matter

never said that viewing the best win is the only and one acceptable way but in this case Wilder hasn't go anything else over Joshua so far

You cant judge a fighter by who's better simply by looking at "best win" or "resume".....if that was the case, Spence wouldn't have beaten Brook, Joe Smith wouldn't have beat Fonfara & B Hop, Fury wouldn't have beat Wlad, Algieri wouldn't have beat Prov, Baldomir beating Judah, Raheem beating Morales, etc for example.



You have to view each fighters strengths/weaknesses/flaws, compare, and then you will have your accurate choice of winner.



Going strictly off of "best win/resume" is extremely flawed, bc it's a basically a big triangle theory, under a different name, that you're using (Fighter A beat Fighter B, who is better than Fighter C, so that means fighter A is better than Fighter C....which is a triangle theory)




If Joshua beats Wilder, it will be because of something he does better than Wilder does....not because of him beating a 41 year old Wlad, coming off a loss, and 15 months ring rust.

 

[HeruDat1]

What do y’all think will be the biggest fight from 2019-future.... (outside of Wilder AJ) or even in the future? Even if it’s two current prospects

What is if any is the Floyd-Pac, Lewis-Tyson, Ali-Frazier for future?

 

[reservoirdogs]

What do y’all think will be the biggest fight from 2019-future.... (outside of Wilder AJ) or even in the future? Even if it’s two current prospects

What is if any is the Floyd-Pac, Lewis-Tyson, Ali-Frazier for future?

Spence vs Crawford
Lubin vs Spence
Canelo vs Eubank Jr.

 

[HeruDat1]

Spence vs Crawford
Lubin vs Spence
Canelo vs Eubank Jr.

Spence Canelo at 160?

Where do you see Jr Canelo at 68?

What if Charlo takes the crown from Canelo

 

[reservoirdogs]

Spence Canelo at 160?

Where do you see Jr Canelo at 68?

What if Charlo takes the crown from Canelo

idk iif Spence goes to 160 anytime soon... and if Canelo will be there by then. a 154 move for Spence I can definitely see

Canelo vs Jr might be on catchweight, I think Eubank will have a big momentum cause he's gonna win WBSS then he gonna beat DeGale and possibly Benavidez too, cause the WBSS winner gonna be a mandatory for Benavidez, so I think 1-1.5 year from now if everything goes like I said Eubank will have a big momentum and he will be a superstar in the UK, and Canelo is only a division south.

Of course Canelo has to win his Golovkin rematch first ad I doubt Charlo vs Canelo happens anytime soon and I'd probably pick Canelo anyway. Canelo v Jacobs or Canelo vs Andrade are maybe more likely

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

Spence Canelo at 160?

Where do you see Jr Canelo at 68?

What if Charlo takes the crown from Canelo

Eubank Jr-Canelo would be at 160. Eubank can still make 160 hes actually a small SMW

 

[Skip b]

Spence Canelo at 160?

Where do you see Jr Canelo at 68?

What if Charlo takes the crown from Canelo

Canelo been playing bytch too long hiding from 160; now in this weight cutting age hes now a midget mw; GGG look like he had 15-20 pounds on the boy.....I no longer see him as a threat at 160 and definitely his cap weight....

 

[krackdagawd]

I love the UK fans illogical stanning

Whyte get him the fukk out of here and I dont even give af about Wilder

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

I love the UK fans illogical stanning

Whyte get him the fukk out of here and I dont even give af about Wilder

Whyte > Stiverne

And you'd be getting paid more to fight Whyte so why turn that down?

 

[krackdagawd]

Whyte > Stiverne

And you'd be getting paid more to fight Whyte so why turn that down?

and pay stiverne another step aside fee

do you nikkas even live in the real world

 

[reservoirdogs]

Stevenson-Alvarez Eyed For 12/16 - Unless Lemieux Fights on Date - Boxing News

Stevenson-Alvarez Eyed For 12/16 - Unless Lemieux Fights on Date

By Luke Furman

Promoter Yvon Michel would love to stage the mandatory fight between WBC light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson and challenger Eleider Alvarez at the Montreal Olympic Stadium.

As of Thursday, Michel said his dream would be to stage that fight in that Montreal venue.

Although the whole thing is hypothetical, the solution of holding this boxing gala at the Olympic Stadium is still conceivable. The last boxing bout to take place at the former home of the Expos and the main theater of the 1976 Montreal Olympics, was the bout between Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard in 1980.

Initially, Showtime had suggested to GYM the date of December 16 to hold this event.

However, Eye of the Tiger Management and HBO could hold an event on the same date involving David Lemieux at La Place Bell in Quebec. Lemieux could fight WBO middleweight champion Billy Joe Saunders, but nothing is confirmed yet.

There is also the issue of trainer Marc Ramsay, who works with both Lemieux and Alvarez. Michel, who promotes Alvarez and Stevenson, does not want to place the veteran trainer in a position where it would cause a conflict.

"If it is confirmed that David Lemieux is fighting on HBO on December 16, we will choose another date," said Yvon Michel to TVA Sports.

"It would not be a service to boxing fans in Quebec to go head to head with two major events and have US TV shifted to two big events in the same city (same date). It does not make sense to do that."

"We do not want to put Marc Ramsay in an untenable situation, where he would have to choose between two of his best boxers (Alvarez and Lemieux). Besides, Marc has always been loyal, always faithful. I would not force him to choose, and then it has an impact on his relationship with either fighter."

The main choice of GYM would be to hold Stevenson-Alvarez at the Center Vidéotron de Québec.

Adonis Stevenson to fight more than one time a year?
What happened brehs? our world is coming to an end?

2017 in boxing even got Stevenson to fight TWO times?

 

[merklman]

Like i said....you, @BlackManLiveFromLondon, @Mr. Leonidas, all yall who agreed with this post better keep the same view about Whyte () when it comes time for Wilder to come collecting.


All that "bu-bu-but" shyt and gonna be allowed.


You literally sound crazy to me talking about a weak fighter like Dillian fukking Whyte.

While ive ackowledged that Whyte is a scrub level boxer - you havent answered the question

 

[HeruDat1]

Eubank Jr-Canelo would be at 160. Eubank can still make 160 hes actually a small SMW

I already know that but the path he’s on, he’ll be at 68 for at least two more years, don’t think he fights at 60 again maybe a catch weight

 

[reservoirdogs]

Marco Huck To Continue Career, in Heavyweight Division - Boxing News

Marco Huck To Continue Career, in Heavyweight Division

By Per Ake Persson

Former WBO cruiserweight king Marco Huck is not about to hang up the gloves and tells BILD that he will continue his career next year in the heavyweight division.

Huck fought then WBA champ Alexander Povetkin back in 2012 and came close to an upset but it must be said that Povetkin was pretty much out of shape for that fight.

Huck then dropped down to cruiserweight and won several fights, but also suffered several defeats at the top level. He was last seen getting outclassed and stopped by WBO champion Oleksander Usyk, last month as part of the ongoing World Boxing Super Series cruiserweight tournament.

SES will promote Karo Murat´s defence of the EBU light heavyweight title against Dominic Boesel on December 16 at the Stadthalle in Weissenfels it was announced today.

Murat (31-3-1) won the first fight (which was for the vacant title) but Boesel (26-1) have bounced back with two wins since then.
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Swedish heavyweight Adrian Granat will as was announced in a press release from Team Granat return to action after the loss to Aleksandre Dimitrenko November 1 or 3 in Hamburg. Joining Granat on this EC Boxing promotion are heavyweight prospects Agron Skamici (10-0) and Ali Eren Demirezen (6-0) and cruiser Nikola Milalic (17-1).
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Light heavyweight Jeppe Morell (7-1) takes on Frenchman Maurice Possitti (17-11) October 28 in Copenhagen on the undercard to Lolenga Mock vs Roman Shkarupa that tops this Danish Fight Night promotion. Possitti beat Morell in April and floored the promising but inexperienced Dane twice early on in the fight. Jeppe did much better in the last four but lost a split decision after eight.

Also on the bill is 18-year old Oliver Meng, who makes his pro debut on the bill and veteran promoter Mogens Palle compares Meng with former EBU champ Soren Sondergaard, who was for good reasons nicknamed Mr Perfect.

another case of a fighter not knowing when to leave with grace and letting the sport retire him instead the other way around

 

[patscorpio]

Marco Huck To Continue Career, in Heavyweight Division - Boxing News



another case of a fighter not knowing when to leave with grace and letting the sport retire him instead the other way around

he can prolly beat parker now lol