reservoirdogs
Superstar
yeah maybeIt definitely would.
Porter is fighting in November. January is a might quick turnaround for him
if there's somebody though who I think would take a fight with that quick turnaround it's Porter :porrter:
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if there's somebody though who I think would take a fight with that quick turnaround it's Porter :porrter:
reservoirdogs
Superstar
We don't believe you, you need more people
he has a fight coming up in 2 day, wondering why he would say things like that...
Dillian Whyte is a scrub.
Hopefully you UK posters dont run away after Wilder eventually KOs that bum like yall did after Kell Brook got his face broken by Spence. Be here to answer for your pick
:bombzquad: #BombZquad
But Wilder only fights scrubs . . . and turns down 2x his highest payday to date?
Doesnt add up newzz
reservoirdogs
Superstar
24
anyone believes this dude is really 24?
this guy is 24 like Luis Ortiz is 38
We don't believe you, you need more people
he has a fight coming up in 2 day, wondering why he would say things like that...
Get KTFO in 3 of your last 5 fights including a TKO to the fake "Jackal" brehs.
ya bum
Then let's see what he does against LSC this weekend lol
BlackManLiveFromLondon
New God
Once again Deontay Wilder is talking about Anthony Joshua 
we aint rushing to fight a man that would rather fight Stiverne than Whyte
we aint rushing to fight a man that would rather fight Stiverne than Whyte 
But Wilder only fights scrubs . . . and turns down 2x his highest payday to date?
Doesnt add up newzz
Like i said....you, @BlackManLiveFromLondon, @Mr. Leonidas, all yall who agreed with this post better keep the same view about Whyte (
) when it comes time for Wilder to come collecting.All that "bu-bu-but" shyt and gonna be allowed.
You literally sound crazy to me talking about a weak fighter like Dillian fukking Whyte.
Wilder starts to sound boring
He can talk about Charles Martin all day but Joshua's best win which is also his most recent one shyts all over Wilder's whole resume.
27 years old Joshua who's pro since 2013 with 19 fights have a better resume than 31 years old Wilder who's pro since 2008 with 38 fights
with beating Wilder Joshua's best win would be still Wlad who's better than Wilder will ever be
Amazing how you pick & choose when to use your "best win" argument.
You saying all this......but yet when I say Spence > Thurman & Crawford bc his best win is better as well, you got all types of extra stuff to add on afterwards.
Also, that would also make Lamont Brewster > every HW today because HIS best win, a prime Wlad KO...not a KO win over a 41 year old Wlad coming off a loss & 15 months ring rust, is better than any win anyone has right now also.
Stand by your logic.
Mr. Leonidas
All Star
Like i said....you, @BlackManLiveFromLondon, @Mr. Leonidas, all yall who agreed with this post better keep the same view about Whyte (
All that "bu-bu-but" shyt and gonna be allowed.
You literally sound crazy to me talking about a weak fighter like Dillian fukking Whyte.
Keep my name outta this buffoonery bruh. Wilder is a dud bum PBC plant heavyweight version of Andre Berto...but he can beat Whyte, by KO too. Which is why I'm puzzled he'd turn down so much $$ to fight him (If its true). But I've always maintained Haymon knows Wilders limitations very well.
If he's a bum, why isnt anyone racing to unify vs him and take his belt?
Parker's Promoter: We Won't Take Lowball Money For Joshua!
Joseph Parker's camp is convinced that recent criticism thrown in his direction by promoter Eddie Hearn is driven by ulterior motives.
Hearn holds the power as kingmaker of the heavyweight boxing as the promoter for contenders Tony Bellew, Dereck Chisora and Dillian Whyte, as well as WBA, IBO and IBF champion Anthony Joshua.
The 38-year-old has thrown shade on the Kiwi WBO heavyweight champion, believing his lacklustre defence against Hughie Fury last month in Manchester has "diminished" his chances of a big payday against one of his charges.
Hearn has indicated that he feels the public's perception of a Parker v Joshua fight would be that of a mismatch.
However, Parker's promoter, David Higgins said it was all a smokescreen from the Brits to try and get Parker to fight them at a reduced price.
"It's become apparent that Eddie and his two bigger-named boxers are all levelling various criticisms at Joseph Parker... the boxers suggesting he is beatable and Eddie talking down the fight a bit, probably wanting to pay less," Higgins told Fairfax.
"We aren't going to have Eddie Hearn low-ball us, because we are from New Zealand or because he didn't like the Hughie Fury fight."
Higgins has fired shots at Hearn, as well as the many boxing pundits who have written off the 25-year-old as a paper champion, pointing to Parker's record.
"I think everyone should step back, take the emotion out of it and look at the facts," Higgins said.
"The facts are that boxers in Joseph's resume, like Andy Ruiz and Carlos Takam, are avoided and are arguably better than many of the boxers on Joshua's resume, Wladimir Klitschko excepted.
"Joshua has been laid out on his back more than once. Dillian Whyte shook him up, Klitschko put him down and there are rumours around incidents in sparring that I wouldn't speculate on.
"Joseph has never been put on his back in fighting or sparring. In boxing parlance, it means that he has got a good chin."
Higgins is confident that Joshua's aggressive style will actually play into the hands of the Kiwi and predicts an exciting fight.
"Joshua's style is more square-up, come forward, so the question for Eddie Hearn is, if Joseph Parker and Anthony Joshua stand in front of each other trading, who is more likely to go down?
"Based on the facts, it looks like that might be Joshua.
"Look, it could go either way and Eddie Hearn will know that - it's the heavyweight division and any heavyweight can knock out an opponent with the perfect punch.
"So that's why we are quite excited about the Joshua possibility, but it's it a fight we would only take if the deal was right. We won't be low-balled."
Parker's next fight announcement is in the works, with December looking likely against a ranked opponent.
Should Parker get past that, a mandatory defence against the winner of Bellew and David Haye looms as a possibility in early 2018.
All that could lead to a mega-heavyweight unification bout with Joshua midway through next year... if the Kiwi can hold onto his belt.
Parker's Promoter: We Won't Take Lowball Money For Joshua! - Boxing News
Joseph Parker's camp is convinced that recent criticism thrown in his direction by promoter Eddie Hearn is driven by ulterior motives.
Hearn holds the power as kingmaker of the heavyweight boxing as the promoter for contenders Tony Bellew, Dereck Chisora and Dillian Whyte, as well as WBA, IBO and IBF champion Anthony Joshua.
The 38-year-old has thrown shade on the Kiwi WBO heavyweight champion, believing his lacklustre defence against Hughie Fury last month in Manchester has "diminished" his chances of a big payday against one of his charges.
Hearn has indicated that he feels the public's perception of a Parker v Joshua fight would be that of a mismatch.
However, Parker's promoter, David Higgins said it was all a smokescreen from the Brits to try and get Parker to fight them at a reduced price.
"It's become apparent that Eddie and his two bigger-named boxers are all levelling various criticisms at Joseph Parker... the boxers suggesting he is beatable and Eddie talking down the fight a bit, probably wanting to pay less," Higgins told Fairfax.
"We aren't going to have Eddie Hearn low-ball us, because we are from New Zealand or because he didn't like the Hughie Fury fight."
Higgins has fired shots at Hearn, as well as the many boxing pundits who have written off the 25-year-old as a paper champion, pointing to Parker's record.
"I think everyone should step back, take the emotion out of it and look at the facts," Higgins said.
"The facts are that boxers in Joseph's resume, like Andy Ruiz and Carlos Takam, are avoided and are arguably better than many of the boxers on Joshua's resume, Wladimir Klitschko excepted.
"Joshua has been laid out on his back more than once. Dillian Whyte shook him up, Klitschko put him down and there are rumours around incidents in sparring that I wouldn't speculate on.
"Joseph has never been put on his back in fighting or sparring. In boxing parlance, it means that he has got a good chin."
Higgins is confident that Joshua's aggressive style will actually play into the hands of the Kiwi and predicts an exciting fight.
"Joshua's style is more square-up, come forward, so the question for Eddie Hearn is, if Joseph Parker and Anthony Joshua stand in front of each other trading, who is more likely to go down?
"Based on the facts, it looks like that might be Joshua.
"Look, it could go either way and Eddie Hearn will know that - it's the heavyweight division and any heavyweight can knock out an opponent with the perfect punch.
"So that's why we are quite excited about the Joshua possibility, but it's it a fight we would only take if the deal was right. We won't be low-balled."
Parker's next fight announcement is in the works, with December looking likely against a ranked opponent.
Should Parker get past that, a mandatory defence against the winner of Bellew and David Haye looms as a possibility in early 2018.
All that could lead to a mega-heavyweight unification bout with Joshua midway through next year... if the Kiwi can hold onto his belt.
Parker's Promoter: We Won't Take Lowball Money For Joshua! - Boxing News
reservoirdogs
Superstar
there can be other factors it depends very much on the context but in this case there's no factor like that it can be pretty simply decided who achieved more. Joshua became unified and other than the Klitschko win his other recent wins are the level of fighters Wilder usually operates against. Molina, Breazeale, Whyte, Martin or now Pulev
Spence being higher than Crawford and Thurman is a legit opinion cause his best win really matter but as opposed to the Wilder in the other case Thurman and Crawford have arguments too because they can put other thing down the table. Former also has two very high level wins which are barely under Brook, namely Swift and Porter, not me but some would even argue that Swift is a better win or same level as Brook plus Thurman is also unified. Crawford became lineal champion is 2 divisions and undisputed in one and hasn't show any remarkable weakness in any of his fights...
Wilder really tried to fight Ortiz and Povetkin and it's not his fault that those fights didn't happen but we can't know whether he would have won them or not. Having Povetkin or Ortiz or especially if both on his resume he would have a much better case to being in consideration as the #1 HW with the best record as opposed to Joshua but he hasn't.
So while in the other cases there are arguments for Crawford and Thurman too in this case there's not really a case for Wilder. Up to THIS point it's pretty clear that Joshua achieved more. It can change later I doubt it will though
reservoirdogs
Superstar
because... the context matterBreh....
You literally did it again
never said that viewing the best win is the only and one acceptable way but in this case Wilder hasn't go anything else over Joshua so far