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That's like Mayweather calling himself TBE

I don't agree but I won't get mad at an athlete that level saying things like that. He should have that confidence. Maybe he means P4P by simply the achievement on paper that he's going to have the most belts in boxing right now. :yeshrug:

as far as I'm concerned Ward will be still the #1



So, if Indongo wins......you have no problem with him labeling himself #1 P4P?:mjpls:



Also, yall have a problem with the media proclaiming Lomachenko (who's resume > Crawford's) could be #1 p4p......but no issue with Crawford saying he would be > Andre Ward if he beats Indongo:ohhh:


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That's fine, neither is Pat, but he definitely isn't overrated.

I do think Bradley was overrated in his later years.


From 2012 - 2017, Bradley only won 3 of his 8 fights imo (he lost to both Pacquiao & Provodnikov imo)....however, he was ranked higher than most PBC fighters at WW during that time period. I always disagreed and never seen a point where Bradley was a Top 4 WW over the past 5 years:manny:



Prior to 2012 and the JMM win is what pushes him into the HOF imo due to the fact he has a better resume than multiple guys in there.
 

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Wait when did having belts start mean anything about skill level again? Cause last I looked they stop meaning a fighter was nice about 2 decades ago.

I mean shyt Jefferey Horn has a damn belt......

I watched all those guys fight and only 3 of the people he matched up again were guys I feel he deserves legit credit for beating.

Jeff Horn beat Pacman clean :ufdup:
 

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So, if Indongo wins......you have no problem with him labeling himself #1 P4P?:mjpls:



Also, yall have a problem with the media proclaiming Lomachenko (who's resume > Crawford's) could be #1 p4p......but no issue with Crawford saying he would be > Andre Ward if he beats Indongo:ohhh:


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I never said I would blame Loma if he would say he's P4P #1, he's a top athlete and he's on the P4P top 5-6 lists, it's okay if he thinks that about HIMSELF, that's just proves he has confidence and he can say things like that...

I don't really like when other people call him P4P #1, because I think it's obvious now that Ward is that. Am I more dissatisfied when I hear that about Loma than when I hear that about Crawford? Of course cause one of them among my favs and the other one - while I don't hate him - is not. Everybody likes to read/hear when his/her favorites are praised. The point is not if it feels good or not, the point is whether I agree or not. and I don't

and yes, while Indongo didn't rule another division before, like TC and he only recently became a name, if he beats Crawford and becomes an undisputed champ I won't have problem with him calling himself P4P #1 even if I don't agree. If you set up a "who is the most dominant in his division, who has the most belts" criteria then the winner of that fight can be P4P top 1. I don't think that's the right criteria, I'm just saying there's an approach...

With that said being undisputed is god damn impressive no matter what so while the winner of that fight won't be P4P top 1 I will still rank him high, I don't know exactly where I don't have a detailed P4P list at the moment I'm more into divisional rankings cause it's easier.
 
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