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[Newzz]

But.....he beat Burns & Troyanovsky








Crawford's Trainer: F*** No! Indongo Isn't as Good as Postol!

By Keith Idec

Terence Crawford’s trainer doesn’t think the unbeaten 140-pound champion Crawford will face August 19 is as good as the undefeated super lightweight title-holder Crawford dominated last summer.

When asked over the weekend in Los Angeles if Julius Indongo is better than Viktor Postol, Brian McIntyre told BoxingScene.com, “No, no. F***, no. Hell, no. F***, no. Postol beat some good guys. You know what I’m saying? But we ready, though.”

Crawford completely out-classed Ukraine’s Postol (28-1, 12 KOs), who hasn’t fought since Crawford floored him twice and won a 12-round unanimous decision in their 12-round partial unification fight in July 2016 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Crawford is listed by most Internet sports books as an 11-1 favorite over Indongo, despite that Indongo has won world titles in his opponents’ home countries in each of his past two fights. The 29-year-old Crawford (31-0, 22 KOs), the WBC/WBO super lightweight champion, and the 34-year-old Indongo (22-0, 11 KOs), the IBF/WBA champion, are set to square off in a rare full title unification fight a week from Saturday night in Lincoln, Nebraska.

ESPN will televise their 12-round, 140-pound fight from Pinnacle Bank Arena, a short drive from Crawford’s hometown of Omaha.

McIntyre, Crawford’s trainer and co-manager, doesn’t expect this fight to be any more difficult than when Crawford comfortably out-boxed the previously unbeaten Postol. He sees it the way handicappers did when establishing the odds.

“I’m looking at it like that because I see Terence every day,” McIntyre said, “I see what he needs to improve on, I see what he needs to do. I’m looking at it like that. You know, Terence gets stronger going into the fight, as the fight progresses. You know, Indongo don’t have a lot of power. So if the fight go longer, it’s trouble for him.”

McIntyre has noticed, however, that the left-handed Indongo’s unusual style presents a challenge.

“I’m gonna be honest with you – he’s awkward as hell,” McIntyre said. “But after finding out his background, I understand why he’s awkward as hell, because he doesn’t have a long, extensive amateur record.”

 

[Newzz]

Crawford: If I Beat Indongo - I'm The Pound For Pound Best!

By Miguel Rivera

Terence Crawford, who holds the WBC, WBO, Ring junior welterweight titles, believes he's one victory away from taking the throne of being the best pound-for-pound boxer in the sport.

Crawford will face another undefeated boxer in the coming weeks, Julius Indongo, in a very historic contest. Indongo holds the WBA, IBF, IBO junior welterweight titles. Indongo has a record of 22 wins and 12 by knockout.

The scenario will place six titles at stake in the bout, which ESPN will televise on August 19 at the Pinnacle Bank Arena in Lincoln, Nebraska.

At the moment, Crawford believes the top man in the sport is WBA/WBO/IBF light heavyweight champion Andre Ward.

"For me, the best at the moment is Andre Ward," Crawford said to ESPN Deportes.

But Crawford feels that he should take the mantle with a victory in less than two weeks.

"If I win this fight, I will be the first boxer to own six world championship titles and would have to be recognized as the best pound for pound," said Crawford, who has a record of 31-0 with 22 wins by knockout.

The talk with Crawford began with insights on his next fight against Indongo, the triumphant Super Ligero triple monarch recognized by the AMB, IBF and IBO, 34 years old, native of Namibia and who has 22 wins, half before Of the limit, without knowing the defeat.

Indongo is a rival whom Crawford does not take lightly, despite his veteran.

However, suddenly, some of the reporters present who are members of the association that votes to classify the top 10 pound-for-pound fighters were put up against the wall and questioners were questioned by McIntyre.

"Now I want to be the one to ask," said Crawford's attorney.

Crawford disagrees with middleweight king Gennady Golovkin holding the top spot, as some have him ranked. He says Golovkin's upcoming opponent, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, should be better ranked.

"The question is, who has he beat? That is what should be evaluated and not just establish that a boxer deserves the vote just by winning a fight. We must value the quality of the opponent and the way he won. For me, Canelo must beat Golovkin," said Crawford.



Crawford: If I Beat Indongo - I'm The Pound For Pound Best! - Boxing News

Excuse me? :excuseme:






By this logic, Julius Indongo would be #1 P4P if he beats Crawford:khanhuh:




Crawford sipping his own Kool Aid

 

[Newzz]

The reason Timothy Bradley retired..................because of the punishment Pacquiao took vs Jeff Horn




“I broadcasted the Manny Pacquiao fight in Australia,” said Bradley, who publicly confirmed his retirement late Saturday night. “And I was sitting there and I was watching the fight, and I just saw like Manny kinda wither away slightly – not crazy. He won the fight, but it was just like, I saw him all bloody and just, you know, beat up, and just been through hell. And I looked over to my wife, and I said, ‘Hey, I wanna talk to you after this fight.’ And from there, that’s when I was just like, ‘You know, I don’t wanna be in here fighting for a paycheck. You know, I have my legacy. I’ve done it. I don’t wanna be in here and take that type of punishment anymore. I don’t think I can.’

“And the old Bradley, like the Bradley that was on the rise, was like, I would look at Horn and I would look at all of his mistakes, and I would say, ‘I would eat that guy alive. Bring him on now.’ But the Bradley mindset now is, ‘I don’t know if I wanna go through all that torture, go through all that pain and go through that mess anymore. I don’t have the guts for it anymore, man. I’m gonna have to bag out.’ And that’s the thing – that’s the reason why. You can’t be one foot in, guys, and one foot out in any sport. You can’t just do a sport or anything just for the money. I left a lot of money on the table. I’m not mad at that. I just don’t wanna end up getting hurt, you know, if I’m not mentally ready.”


Seeing Pacquiao Bloodied, Battered by Horn Made Bradley Retire - Boxing News

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

The reason Timothy Bradley retired..................because of the punishment Pacquiao took vs Jeff Horn




“I broadcasted the Manny Pacquiao fight in Australia,” said Bradley, who publicly confirmed his retirement late Saturday night. “And I was sitting there and I was watching the fight, and I just saw like Manny kinda wither away slightly – not crazy. He won the fight, but it was just like, I saw him all bloody and just, you know, beat up, and just been through hell. And I looked over to my wife, and I said, ‘Hey, I wanna talk to you after this fight.’ And from there, that’s when I was just like, ‘You know, I don’t wanna be in here fighting for a paycheck. You know, I have my legacy. I’ve done it. I don’t wanna be in here and take that type of punishment anymore. I don’t think I can.’

“And the old Bradley, like the Bradley that was on the rise, was like, I would look at Horn and I would look at all of his mistakes, and I would say, ‘I would eat that guy alive. Bring him on now.’ But the Bradley mindset now is, ‘I don’t know if I wanna go through all that torture, go through all that pain and go through that mess anymore. I don’t have the guts for it anymore, man. I’m gonna have to bag out.’ And that’s the thing – that’s the reason why. You can’t be one foot in, guys, and one foot out in any sport. You can’t just do a sport or anything just for the money. I left a lot of money on the table. I’m not mad at that. I just don’t wanna end up getting hurt, you know, if I’m not mentally ready.”


Seeing Pacquiao Bloodied, Battered by Horn Made Bradley Retire - Boxing News

So in short, Jeff Horn made a HOFer retire

Our pound for pound undefeated champion of the world yall

 

[patscorpio]

so bradley seeing the pac-horn and what pac went through made him retire? interesting

Seeing Pacquiao Bloodied, Battered by Horn Made Bradley Retire

By Keith Idec

Timothy Bradley boxed 36 rough rounds against Manny Pacquiao, but it was another Pacquiao fight that convinced Bradley to retire.

Bradley wasn’t sure if he wanted to fight again when he arrived in Australia to call Pacquiao’s upset defeat to Jeff Horn for ESPN last month. But after looking at a battered, bloodied Pacquiao following his controversial loss July 2 in Horn’s hometown of Brisbane, Bradley realized he didn’t want to box again.

He had a conversation with his wife/manager, Monica Bradley, following that fight that cemented the Palm Springs, California native’s decision to retire following a 12-year pro career in which he won junior welterweight and welterweight world titles and made millions of dollars. Bradley (32-3-1, 13 KOs, 1 NC), who’ll turn 34 on August 29, relayed that story to co-hosts Randy Gordon and Gerry c00ney on Monday night during an episode of SiriusXM’s “At The Fights.”

“I broadcasted the Manny Pacquiao fight in Australia,” said Bradley, who publicly confirmed his retirement late Saturday night. “And I was sitting there and I was watching the fight, and I just saw like Manny kinda wither away slightly – not crazy. He won the fight, but it was just like, I saw him all bloody and just, you know, beat up, and just been through hell. And I looked over to my wife, and I said, ‘Hey, I wanna talk to you after this fight.’ And from there, that’s when I was just like, ‘You know, I don’t wanna be in here fighting for a paycheck. You know, I have my legacy. I’ve done it. I don’t wanna be in here and take that type of punishment anymore. I don’t think I can.’

“And the old Bradley, like the Bradley that was on the rise, was like, I would look at Horn and I would look at all of his mistakes, and I would say, ‘I would eat that guy alive. Bring him on now.’ But the Bradley mindset now is, ‘I don’t know if I wanna go through all that torture, go through all that pain and go through that mess anymore. I don’t have the guts for it anymore, man. I’m gonna have to bag out.’ And that’s the thing – that’s the reason why. You can’t be one foot in, guys, and one foot out in any sport. You can’t just do a sport or anything just for the money. I left a lot of money on the table. I’m not mad at that. I just don’t wanna end up getting hurt, you know, if I’m not mentally ready.”

Bradley hasn’t fought since Pacquiao dropped him twice and won their third fight by unanimous decision in April 2016 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

 

[patscorpio]

shyt me and @Newzz just posted the same shyt lol

 

[Wargames]

Junior Witter, Devon Alexander for 140 unified championship, Lamont Peterson, Marquez, and Nate Campbell, Casamayor (shot) and Kendall ****.

Then at 147 he had 3 fights with Manny, Abregu, Chaves.

140 he beat the best of his era, dominated them actually.

Breh the only names up there that were legit nice at any point in their career were Marquez, Peterson, and Pacquia.



I like Bradley as a person, and I'm not saying he was a scrub. However he did not fight the best guys of her era. He was built up to be a Manny challenger, and evolved into something more. Arum made that man's career.

 

[David_TheMan]

Breh the only names up there that were legit nice at any point in their career were Marquez, Peterson, and Pacquia.



I like Bradley as a person, and I'm not saying he was a scrub. However he did not fight the best guys of her era. He was built up to be a Manny challenger, and evolved into something more. Arum made that man's career.

Wittor was the favorite when Bradley went to the UK to fight him.
Campbell was unified 135 champ when he went up to fight Bradley.
**** was a the WBO champ when he fought bradley, and knocked bradley down late if I remember correctly
Stop it man. AT 140 he cleaned house, he is a HoF off what he did at 140 ignoring the Manny win at 147

 

[David_TheMan]

so bradley seeing the pac-horn and what pac went through made him retire? interesting

If Bradley had a trainer worth a damn, he would have done in the 3rd fight what Horn did this fight and imposed his will, instead of giving him space and trying to "box" him from distance.
Again another exhibit of Teddy Atlas being a shyt trainer and Bradley's regression under him.
That said I think it was Bradley seeing Horn an inferior fighter do what he couldn't that really showed him it was time to quit. Tim forgot he said Horn won on the broadcast

 

[reservoirdogs]

Crawford: If I Beat Indongo - I'm The Pound For Pound Best!

By Miguel Rivera

Terence Crawford, who holds the WBC, WBO, Ring junior welterweight titles, believes he's one victory away from taking the throne of being the best pound-for-pound boxer in the sport.

Crawford will face another undefeated boxer in the coming weeks, Julius Indongo, in a very historic contest. Indongo holds the WBA, IBF, IBO junior welterweight titles. Indongo has a record of 22 wins and 12 by knockout.

The scenario will place six titles at stake in the bout, which ESPN will televise on August 19 at the Pinnacle Bank Arena in Lincoln, Nebraska.

At the moment, Crawford believes the top man in the sport is WBA/WBO/IBF light heavyweight champion Andre Ward.

"For me, the best at the moment is Andre Ward," Crawford said to ESPN Deportes.

But Crawford feels that he should take the mantle with a victory in less than two weeks.

"If I win this fight, I will be the first boxer to own six world championship titles and would have to be recognized as the best pound for pound," said Crawford, who has a record of 31-0 with 22 wins by knockout.

The talk with Crawford began with insights on his next fight against Indongo, the triumphant Super Ligero triple monarch recognized by the AMB, IBF and IBO, 34 years old, native of Namibia and who has 22 wins, half before Of the limit, without knowing the defeat.

Indongo is a rival whom Crawford does not take lightly, despite his veteran.

However, suddenly, some of the reporters present who are members of the association that votes to classify the top 10 pound-for-pound fighters were put up against the wall and questioners were questioned by McIntyre.

"Now I want to be the one to ask," said Crawford's attorney.

Crawford disagrees with middleweight king Gennady Golovkin holding the top spot, as some have him ranked. He says Golovkin's upcoming opponent, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, should be better ranked.

"The question is, who has he beat? That is what should be evaluated and not just establish that a boxer deserves the vote just by winning a fight. We must value the quality of the opponent and the way he won. For me, Canelo must beat Golovkin," said Crawford.



Crawford: If I Beat Indongo - I'm The Pound For Pound Best! - Boxing News

Excuse me? :excuseme:






By this logic, Julius Indongo would be #1 P4P if he beats Crawford:khanhuh:




Crawford sipping his own Kool Aid

That's like Mayweather calling himself TBE

I don't agree but I won't get mad at an athlete that level saying things like that. He should have that confidence. Maybe he means P4P by simply the achievement on paper that he's going to have the most belts in boxing right now.

as far as I'm concerned Ward will be still the #1

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Bradley is overrated as a fighter?

You already know how i feel about Bradley in-ring skill level plus i feel he'd have lost to multiple PBC WWs


He's a HOFer, but as a Boxer, I wasn't fond of his technical ability.

That's fine, neither is Pat, but he definitely isn't overrated.

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

Crawford is a fighter thats what hes supposed to say and since he would technically become an undisputed champ at 140 he has a strong case (how many other boxers are undisputed in the sport right now?)

But everybody in the fight game knows who no.1 P4P is :P4PKing:

 

[Wargames]

Wittor was the favorite when Bradley went to the UK to fight him.
Campbell was unified 135 champ when he went up to fight Bradley.
**** was a the WBO champ when he fought bradley, and knocked bradley down late if I remember correctly
Stop it man. AT 140 he cleaned house, he is a HoF off what he did at 140 ignoring the Manny win at 147

Wait when did having belts start mean anything about skill level again? Cause last I looked they stop meaning a fighter was nice about 2 decades ago.

I mean shyt Jefferey Horn has a damn belt......

I watched all those guys fight and only 3 of the people he matched up again were guys I feel he deserves legit credit for beating.

 

[David_TheMan]

Wait when did having belts start mean anything again? Cause last I looked they stop meaning a fighter was nice about 2 decades ago.

I mean shyt Jefferey Horn has a damn belt......

I watched all those guys fight and only 3 of the people he matched up again were guys I feel he deserves legit credit for beating.

So belts and accomplishment don't mean anything, until you use them to mean something right?
If you could actually make a point about any of the belt holders and how the belt meant nothing I would be glad to listen to it, but you can't so you are going this lazy route.
I'll give you an example of a valid belt criticism, pre154 Cotto never won a title off a champion, he only collected vacant belts, which diminished his accomplishment.
Now do you want to attack the belts Campbell held at 135, **** held at 140, Witter held at 140 (and Witter being the favorite trying to make a Hatton fight as well) I'm open to hearing it.

 

[H.I.M.]

Wait when did having belts start mean anything about skill level again? Cause last I looked they stop meaning a fighter was nice about 2 decades ago.

*3 decades ago

Arguably 4