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Where I was getting at is if Mayweather fought like let's say a Cory Spinks, I don't think he would be as big as a draw.

People seem to believe people only pay to watch Floyd fight to see him lose. His ability to entertain in the ring is very underrated.

There have been plenty of pure boxers that are awful to watch. Mayweather is great to watch, but the casual fans just leave disappointed because he's not doing more in their minds.

The only fight in his career that is just unwatchable is the Baldomir fight imo. I don't know what the fukk was going on in that fight. I don't know if he was injured, or because he didn't have a trainer, but he was awful in that fight.

The sosa fight was also trying as fukk to watch too
 

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Move up and stop ducking 147.


T craw koing nikkas that should even be in the ring with him is boring. T craw vs hank lundy or t craw vs Jean is straight out the book of danny vs salsa or canelo vs smith. T craw is never gonna build a name at 140. There is nobody for him to fight. He need to go to 147 and fight vargas. That would honestly be his toughest fight to date which is embarrassing

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hater shyt...
I also want him to move up and I think he will at the end of this year after Indongo but saying a fighter is ducking a division when he already stepped up a division is quite ridiculous.

also calling Lundy and Jean the same level of fights as Salka clearly shows that you just trolling :camby:


Crawford beat convincingly the man widely considered as the clear #2 in his division and frankly idgaf that you never thought he was that good on the first place and etc... Postol was the clear #2 at that time in the opinion of damn near everyone and plenty of people even accused Crawford of ducking him. he made them eat their words, didn't he? :birdman:

He fought Diaz too who competed in ww too arguably beat Peterson and was the best available opponent at that time.

He doesn't have as good wins on his resume as let's say Thurman you can say that but that's hardly Crawford's fault and saying he is ducking his third possible weightclass is ridiculous. If he would be still in lightweight or something you would have a point but he already stepped up once.
 

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hater shyt...
I also want him to move up and I think he will at the end of this year after Indongo but saying a fighter is ducking a division when he already stepped up a division is quite ridiculous.

also calling Lundy and Jean the same level of fights as Salka clearly shows that you just trolling :camby:


Crawford beat convincingly the man widely considered as the clear #2 in his division and frankly idgaf that you never thought he was that good on the first place and etc... Postol was the clear #2 at that time in the opinion of damn near everyone and plenty of people even accused Crawford of ducking him. he mad them eat their words, didn't he? :birdman:

He fought Diaz too who competed in ww too arguably beat Peterson and was the best available opponent at that time.

He doesn't have as good wins on his resume as let's say Thurman you can say that but that's hardly Crawford's fault and saying he is ducking his third possible weightclass is ridiculous. If he would be still in lightweight or something you would have a point but he already stepped up once.
Stepping up to a shyt division means nothing. Just like I don't want dre to fight at cw. Stevenson would be a harder fight imo
 

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We will see when he goes against good fighters (Lara and past his prime cotto) he look like the same ole Canelo :yeshrug:.
Canelo defense looked much better against Cotto then I have ever seen. He legit made one of the most skilled boxers in the world miss combos just by moving his head. Nobody has better head movement at the moment. But Sept gone show y'all the truth
 

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Stepping up to a shyt division means nothing. Just like I don't want dre to fight at cw. Stevenson would be a harder fight imo
cw is 15lbs + compared to lhw, the biggest gap between divisions in boxing and it has good champions, some of them probably would be just as hard (or harder) as Stevenson for him

with that said I also rather want him to stay at lhw and become undisputed first

Stevenson has a mandatory he keeps pushing back for almost 2 years now so I guess he won't fight ward just now and given Stevenson's inactivity idk when we gonna see Stevenson vs Ward
 

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cw is 15lbs + compared to lhw, the biggest gap between divisions in boxing and it has good champions, some of them probably would be just as hard (or harder) as Stevenson for him

with that said I also rather want him to stay at lhw and become undisputed first

Stevenson has a mandatory he keeps pushing back for almost 2 years now so I guess he won't fight ward just now and given Stevenson's inactivity idk when we gonna see Stevenson vs Ward
Cw is ass. Even an over the hill #Struggleman :cape:is better than the nikkas at cw. Dre should fight Stevenson then wait on jack. I really want dre to fight beterbeast
 
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Where I was getting at is if Mayweather fought like let's say a Cory Spinks, I don't think he would be as big as a draw.

People seem to believe people only pay to watch Floyd fight to see him lose. His ability to entertain in the ring is very underrated.

There have been plenty of pure boxers that are awful to watch. Mayweather is great to watch, but the casual fans just leave disappointed because he's not doing more in their minds.

The only fight in his career that is just unwatchable is the Baldomir fight imo. I don't know what the fukk was going on in that fight. I don't know if he was injured, or because he didn't have a trainer, but he was awful in that fight.

He injured himself vs Baldomir

Idc if you hate his personality but in the ring you're lying if you say hes not entertaining to watch. Hes the prime example for pure boxing skills. All your fav fighters now throwing jabs to the body, we all know who made that hot :mjgrin:

Cacs just mad at Floyd because his boxing career was 49 (soon to be 50) episodes of 'Theres nothing you can do' :mjgrin:

They got the nerve to hype up Loma as the hottest thing at his weight class since sliced bread, this fukkin fruity ballet dancing boy :camby: Prime boxer that got gatekeeper problems :gucci: Them boys know they gotta keep him away from Rigo otherwise its another great white hope gone down the drain
 

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Cw is ass. Even an over the hill #Struggleman :cape:is better than the nikkas at cw. Dre should fight Stevenson then wait on jack. I really want dre to fight beterbeast
I don't agree. It's not a glamour division and it's not popular in the States therefor it tends to become underrated among fans but it's actually a good division right now with legit, good champions, tbh if we look at the top 10 CW it's better than the top 10 HW (P4P). HW is better than it was like 5 years ago but it still needs improving because it's very top heavy.

edit...: Idk why he should wait on Jack though, I like Jack, he's among my wider circle of favorites but he hasn't done anything at lhw yet, let's wait it out how he does here.

I'd also like Ward vs Beterbeast
 

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Canelo defense looked much better against Cotto then I have ever seen. He legit made one of the most skilled boxers in the world miss combos just by moving his head. Nobody has better head movement at the moment. But Sept gone show y'all the truth

It doesn't matter Cotto is not an elite fighter nomo plain and simple. If Canelo is such a counter-puncher and he was making Cotto miss so much why didn't he capitalize to hurt Cotto. That Cotto win should be held in the same esteem as that Shane Mosley win to me.
 
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Cw is ass. Even an over the hill #Struggleman :cape:is better than the nikkas at cw. Dre should fight Stevenson then wait on jack. I really want dre to fight beterbeast

I just wanna see Ward vs Badou Jack because Floyd still got J Prince problems :mjgrin:

Plus Floyd has always lowkey had a dislike for Ward.. might be because he knows Ward's resume is miles ahead of his but thats what happens when you're the Son of God :mjgrin:

SOGGang we didnt duck the crucifixion so we damn sure aint ducking these lil kids at LHW and beyond:P4PKing:
 

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It doesn't matter Cotto is not an elite fighter nomo plain and simple. If Canelo is such a counter-puncher and he was making Cotto miss so much why didn't he capitalize to hurt Cotto. That Cotto win should be held in the same esteem as that Shane Mosley win to me.
to be fair Cotto slumped the allegedly top mw Geale the same way as Golovkin.
I also don't think Cotto was an elite fighter anymore but he was still a very good fighter. Still a good win on Canelo's record probably his 3rd best win after Lara and Trout
 

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I don't agree. It's not a glamour division and it's not popular in the States therefor it tends to become underrated among fans but it's actually a good division right now with legit, good champions, tbh if we look at the top 10 CW it's better than the top 10 HW (P4P). HW is better than it was like 5 years ago but it still needs improving because it's very top heavy.

edit...: Idk why he should wait on Jack though, I like Jack, he's among my wider circle of favorites but he hasn't done anything at lhw yet, let's wait it out how he does here.

I'd also like Ward vs Beterbeast
Overall depth and interest for hard core fans CW is really good. I don't think Ward should move up because in the mainstream there are no names or money fights. Ward would be better off staying at LHW and trying to get Stevenson or Beterbiev eventually.
 

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Overall depth and interest for hard core fans CW is really good. I don't think Ward should move up because in the mainstream there are no names or money fights. Ward would be better off staying at LHW and trying to get Stevenson or Beterbiev eventually.
I think after Ward unifies with Stevenson (I mean if it's possible) and maybe a quick mandatory fight he should take on the winner of CW WBSS winner, that would have noise by then I guess
 
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