Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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krackdagawd
Inspire.
You could do that but you would also have to go to the Floyd Mayweather, Cotto and Lara threads for Canelo N you can't do that w ggg because he has no good fighters on his resume
None of them fighters fight like GGG, so I dont see how bringing up how Canelo fared against Floyd, Cotto, or Lara (where Canelo was the bigger, stronger man + stalker...ironically what he's facing in GGG next) as having anything to do with how Canelo will fare vs GGG.
That would be like me using GGG's win over Lemieux, which @GzUp constantly uses (and I reject his deposit as well), as to meaning how GGG would fare vs Canelo
Neither one of them have faced anyone that fights in the style of the other with a high skill level, so I think past opponents here are kind of useless
All while being 26 years old.
That's cool....but it's more about what he does at Middleweight at this point, being that he's facing the perceived best Middleweight of this decade.
He has the skills to get the job done, but I would've liked him to take a couple shots from a big 160 puncher before facing GGG. We dont know how Canelo's chin holds up yet, he hasnt passed the chin test thus far
I dont do avi bets unless AB or SOG is fighting
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
I think @Newzz is right, this fight is a lot less complicated then people are making it. Canelo is going to box and force GGG to battle his speed advantage (which has given GGG problems - see Brook) and Canelo likely will need to prove he has enough pop to keep GGG honest (unlike Brook).That'll be fine, but then we would just do the same with yall opinion of Kirkland, Smith, Angulo, and Chavez before Canelo thought about facing them
Regardless, none of the come forward opponents Canelo beat where even in the same stratosphere as GGG, so @reservoirdogs using what Canelo did to Chavez is just asas it would be if @GREENandYELLOW using what GGG did to Monroe attempting to stand in the pocket as a reason Canelo would lose.
GGG is going to want to stalk and start his offense with the jab. Canelo has never fought anyone with the power and effective size as GGG and he will need to not let himself get winded or trapped on the ropes (Kirkland was a good example of this).
Canelo has only fought one fighter better than GGG and that was Floyd, who is a completely different style.
GGG has only fought one opponent close to Canelo and that is Jacobs. Jacobs had some crossover of how Canelo will fight, but not directly. Jacobs was stalked by GGG most of the fight and used his speed well (Canelo has more speed), Jacobs was also in great shape and never really gassed and I bet will have more effective strength then Canelo will.
Canelo has improved a ton lately which is why I think this is a close fight. Two deserving top 10 PFP and the biggest current fight that can be made right now (outside of Floyd). It is going to be an intense fight and one that is more technical than Mexican Style IMO.
Jacobs was stylin on him at close range and in the pocket in the late rds...There were times where Jacobs was engaging him in the pocket and GGG wouldn't even throw punches...he did the same thing against Ouma back in the day. GGG is lowkey not even a good infighter, and really Boxer-Puncher who needs space to operate. And at times looks real uncomfortable when you smother him. GGG is most effective at mid-range and when he's using his jab to set up his offense. ...I think Canelo can stay in his chest James Toney-em...it would probably be advantageous for Canelo to keep the fight at close quarters actually.
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Yall must be betting GGG wins via KO
I think Canelo needs to his use reach, speed, and reflex advantages by staying on the outside of GGG, forcing GGG to "sell out" to get closer, counter him while coming & then move. Almost like how Floyd beat Canelo oddly enough.
I cannot see Canelo standing in GGG's range and just willing to be on some "whatever happens, happens" stuff....GGG is too powerful and accurate to stand and trade with for anyone.
Canelo has the speed & reach advantage, by sitting in the pocket, he gives up the reach and will have to hope GGG's power isnt as crazy as others have said it is. I think that's a bad decision.
krackdagawd
Inspire.
None of them fighters fight like GGG, so I dont see how bringing up how Canelo fared against Floyd, Cotto, or Lara (where Canelo was the bigger, stronger man + stalker...ironically what he's facing in GGG next) as having anything to do with how Canelo will fare vs GGG.
That would be like me using GGG's win over Lemieux, which @GzUp constantly uses (and I reject his deposit as well), as to meaning how GGG would fare vs Canelo
Neither one of them have faced anyone that fights in the style of the other with a high skill level, so I think past opponents here are kind of useless
That's cool....but it's more about what he does at Middleweight at this point, being that he's facing the perceived best Middleweight of this decade.
He has the skills to get the job done, but I would've liked him to take a couple shots from a big 160 puncher before facing GGG. We dont know how Canelo's chin holds up yet, he hasnt passed the chin test thus far
Juelz.gif
All I heard was nah to the avi bet so you dont even believe the shyt you talking
@Newzz
1:10 on up
Infighting is and has always been an achilles heel for GGG...his strength is at mid-range setting up everything behind that jab...he's nowhere near as effective or dangerous at close quarters.
Canelo on the other hand IS.
Canelo keeping the fight in close quarters would actually be playing to his strength and exploiting GGG's weakness.
I think he can beat him at mid-range too tho
1:10 on up
Infighting is and has always been an achilles heel for GGG...his strength is at mid-range setting up everything behind that jab...he's nowhere near as effective or dangerous at close quarters.
Canelo on the other hand IS.
Canelo keeping the fight in close quarters would actually be playing to his strength and exploiting GGG's weakness.
I think he can beat him at mid-range too tho
Juelz.gif
All I heard was nah to the avi bet so you dont even believe the shyt you talking
Because we don't accept an avi bet, we don't believe it?
Interesting
Ya musta forgot
At 155.15 Canelo puts on a clinic maybe even a stoppage. 97g has none of the attributes that gives Canelo problems too slow, struggle footwork and will be drained from making weight. At 160 idk I need to see how Canelo looks at a legit 160 against a decent opp or one of those uber drivers turned "good fighters" ggg fought.
So....did you not believe what you were saying about Canelo beating GGG either bc you didn't accept the avi bet at the time?
GGG is not my fighter as everyone else knows, just like you said Canelo aint yours above
, so why would I engage you in an avi bet?Besides, your avi's are only for Tua's enjoyment....I couldnt accept one of those avi bets from you
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I saw someone say that chris eubank sr actually quit in a fight so he shouldn't be talkin that much.
any eubank sr fans know if that's true??????
@Newzz
1:10 on up
Infighting is and has always been an achilles heel for GGG...his strength is at mid-range setting up everything behind that jab...he's nowhere near as effective or dangerous at close quarters.
Canelo on the other hand IS.
Canelo keeping the fight in close quarters would actually be playing to his strength and exploiting GGG's weakness.
I think he can beat him at mid-range too tho
Breh, the video starts (01:10 and up) with Jacobs "best moments" on the inside half way thru Round 9....it was a 12 round fight. He only had success on the inside over the last 3 1/2 rounds? He had so much success inside, that his highlights of him getting at Golovkin = only 1:30 seconds out of a 36 minute fight?
Nah, breh. Im cool on that. Besides, Jacobs is 2x better than any "come forward" fighter that Canelo has faced easily, so if I go and pull this:
From 00:00 - 01:24
^^^ Does that mean anything in GGG's favor knowing a washed up, Ann Wolfe-less Kirkland was able to get that off on him....knowing GGG is 10x the opponent?
If yall wanna use past opponents, then use them both ways
I saw someone say that chris eubank sr actually quit in a fight so he shouldn't be talkin that much.
any eubank sr fans know if that's true??????
he's only been stopped once...and that was from joe cal...and i dont remember it being a quit job though
