If Ward told HBO he wouldn't participate in a Face Off is one thing and something i dont have an issue with, but if he agreed to do it, HBO set the shyt up and then he dipped/didn't show up?? Nah I can't rock with that, and from what I'm reading thats what it sounds like he did.with the way HBO has treated him, I don't blame him. especially with how HBO made it seem like he was ducking kovalev from the get go. then after the decision, they zoom in on him and make it seem like he was shocked that he won. ward has done commentary with HBO and worked alongside these guys many of times, and i'm 100% positive they probably kiss his ass when he's in their presence. why would any self respecting man give a fukk about these two faced clowns?.....ward don't gotta do shyt but show up to fight. he already fought kovalev and won and HBO refused to give him any credit for it. like he said saturday night. HBO billed the fight as "pound for pound", then they went back on their word. you think if kov won the controversial decision, HBO would be acting in the same manner?........HBO's treatment of ward has been an absolute joke, but they still expect him to fall in line and keep a smile on his face. fukk all that.
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SuikodenII
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Arrogant Uppity Negro who doesn't know his place...with the way HBO has treated him, I don't blame him. especially with how HBO made it seem like he was ducking kovalev from the get go. then after the decision, they zoom in on him and make it seem like he was shocked that he won. ward has done commentary with HBO and worked alongside these guys many of times, and i'm 100% positive they probably kiss his ass when he's in their presence. why would any self respecting man give a fukk about these two faced clowns?.....ward don't gotta do shyt but show up to fight. he already fought kovalev and won and HBO refused to give him any credit for it. like he said saturday night. HBO billed the fight as "pound for pound", then they went back on their word. you think if kov won the controversial decision, HBO would be acting in the same manner?
SuikodenII
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I think we should reserve judgement until all of the facts are out and we get his side to the story.
I haven't forgotten Duva pulling a similar stunt building up to their 1st fight.
Yeah like the day after he fought Alexander Brand holding a press conference and telling the media that Ward was a no-show.
Sound familiar
Despite the 4-inch height advantage and an obvious weight edge after he rehydrated, Chavez was overmatched in his first fight under iconic trainer Ignacio “Nacho” Beristain.
"Canelo beat me, he beat me at the distance," Chavez, Jr. said. "He is a very active fighter-he's very good and he beat me. I wanted to box but he went to the ropes and I just needed to throw more punches. I would've attacked more I would've been countered by his punches. Nacho told me to do that but the strategy didn't work. The speed and the distance was the key. I didn't feel that much power because I felt dwindled, I couldn't throw as many punches as I wanted. My father kept telling me to throw more punches from the ringside."
- See more at: Chavez Jr. Says He Felt Weak at The Weight, Couldn't Throw Shots - Boxing News
So he's admitting that Nacho told him to let his hands go, but he didn't bc he would've been countered.........just like Nacho said
Also, Chavez saying he was drained though....too bad that excuse wont fly bc #CaneloCartel was beat over the head with the fact Chavez "looked good" and "always looks like that" and he wouldn't be drained bc it was "memo's plan" @GzUp
"Canelo beat me, he beat me at the distance," Chavez, Jr. said. "He is a very active fighter-he's very good and he beat me. I wanted to box but he went to the ropes and I just needed to throw more punches. I would've attacked more I would've been countered by his punches. Nacho told me to do that but the strategy didn't work. The speed and the distance was the key. I didn't feel that much power because I felt dwindled, I couldn't throw as many punches as I wanted. My father kept telling me to throw more punches from the ringside."
- See more at: Chavez Jr. Says He Felt Weak at The Weight, Couldn't Throw Shots - Boxing News
So he's admitting that Nacho told him to let his hands go, but he didn't bc he would've been countered.........just like Nacho said
Also, Chavez saying he was drained though....too bad that excuse wont fly bc #CaneloCartel was beat over the head with the fact Chavez "looked good" and "always looks like that" and he wouldn't be drained bc it was "memo's plan" @GzUp
The axe murderer
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I remember how folks were tryna spin that shyt too. I'll reserve judgement on this one.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Saying Brook is a good test before Canelo cause his speed is like saying Chavez Jr. is a good test before Golovkin cause of his size. Oversimplification and not true.
and just because Golovkin's recent fight was against a tougher opponent than Canelo's we gonna forget about how much better opponents Canelo faced otherwise?
If we would have to rank all their opponents, out of the top 5, 4 would be Canelo opponents (Mayweather, Lara, Trout, Cotto) and only one Golovkin opponent (Jacobs)
Also the Jacobs case...
Did Jacobs prove that he is better than we thought? Yep. But you gotta remember that the guy was a 15-1 underdog and he ended up beating Golovkin in many people's eyes. Now it's not fair from Golovkin fans to claim that the guy is some extra class if they originally thought he will be a food for Golovkin.
Canelo struggled against opponents who he supposed to struggle against. Nobody thought before he fought Lara or Trout that he's gonna wash those guys. In fact they were very difficult style matchups for Canelo more difficult on paper than Jacobs to Golovkin.
Golovkin is all about forward momentum and his preferred range. Take away from him these and you win. Not many fighter can do it and it's easier said than done but Canelo is able to do it imo... He gonna back Golovkin off and imo maybe bully him at points. Golovkin moves forward but when he get inside he rather tries to reset and try again than rough his opponent up so if somebody can stand his ground without absorbing much damage or move laterally consistently he should be able to beat Golovkin.
For the former one needs good defense, good reflexes to slip punches, an arsenal to land punches on Golovkin and at least respectable power to back him off. Sound like Canelo to me.
He's just coming up with excusesDespite the 4-inch height advantage and an obvious weight edge after he rehydrated, Chavez was overmatched in his first fight under iconic trainer Ignacio “Nacho” Beristain.
"Canelo beat me, he beat me at the distance," Chavez, Jr. said. "He is a very active fighter-he's very good and he beat me. I wanted to box but he went to the ropes and I just needed to throw more punches. I would've attacked more I would've been countered by his punches. Nacho told me to do that but the strategy didn't work. The speed and the distance was the key. I didn't feel that much power because I felt dwindled, I couldn't throw as many punches as I wanted. My father kept telling me to throw more punches from the ringside."
- See more at: Chavez Jr. Says He Felt Weak at The Weight, Couldn't Throw Shots - Boxing News
So he's admitting that Nacho told him to let his hands go, but he didn't bc he would've been countered.........just like Nacho said
Also, Chavez saying he was drained though....too bad that excuse wont fly bc #CaneloCartel was beat over the head with the fact Chavez "looked good" and "always looks like that" and he wouldn't be drained bc it was "memo's plan" @GzUp
Truth is already out there but it won't get picked up.
Main Events puts Ward on social media blast for skipping 'Face Off' - The Ring
I know for a fact Ward was on my television during Canelo Chavez, I didn't see KKK tho.
Scottie Drippin
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Yeah he doesn't have to do shyt to promote his fight. He should just continue rocking as the best P4P fighter in the world doing 160k in PPV sales. That'll show themwith the way HBO has treated him, I don't blame him. especially with how HBO made it seem like he was ducking kovalev from the get go. then after the decision, they zoom in on him and make it seem like he was shocked that he won. ward has done commentary with HBO and worked alongside these guys many of times, and i'm 100% positive they probably kiss his ass when he's in their presence. why would any self respecting man give a fukk about these two faced clowns?.....ward don't gotta do shyt but show up to fight. he already fought kovalev and won and HBO refused to give him any credit for it. like he said saturday night. HBO billed the fight as "pound for pound", then they went back on their word. you think if kov won the controversial decision, HBO would be acting in the same manner?
Yeah he doesn't have to do shyt to promote his fight. He should just continue rocking as the best P4P fighter in the world doing 160k in PPV sales. That'll show them
Ward was at the Canelo Chavez PPV, where was Triple K?
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Last time he earned 5 millions now he will get even more, I don't think he gives a fukk about ppv numbers...Yeah he doesn't have to do shyt to promote his fight. He should just continue rocking as the best P4P fighter in the world doing 160k in PPV sales. That'll show them
People will downplay Danny as some bum but he would stop canelo.
GGG just has faced Fighters that would beat canelo... What u say is very true, canelo has not prepared himself for someone like GGG.. He could have faced a banger at least but he would probably lose to them so it makes sense to avoid it I suppose.