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So, by that logic you're using for Imam, shouldn't Sugar John Molina have been looking to avenge his loss vs AB, Humberto Soto, or Matthysse instead of fighting Crawford?:jbhmm:

I mean....that's if we are being consistent, right friend?:mjpls:




yep and felix should be looking to revenge that loss from Peterson.

consistency friend!
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yep and felix should be looking to revenge that loss from Peterson.

consistency friend!
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So why is Molina fighting Crawford then?:jbhmm:


If what you said held any weight to actual reality...why is Crawford defending his belts vs the #3 ranked contender instead of the #2 when the #3 contender has 3 losses at 140 he hadn't avenged yet while the #2 only has 1? :mjpls:
 

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So why is Molina fighting Crawford then?:jbhmm:


If what you said held any weight to actual reality...why is Crawford defending his belts vs the #3 ranked contender instead of the #2 when the #3 contender has 3 losses at 140 he hadn't avenged yet while the #2 only has 1? :mjpls:

why not push both guys to get revenge losses instead of settling for c fighters vs craw. :yeshrug:

like I said Molina face better fighters. unless broner /lucas all of sudden not better than Peterson idk. that's on u bro.

I just cant see how anyone putting these c to bum fighters above each other.....

ring mag rating hold weight realistically now? is that what we have changed to....Im sure I remember us saying it didn't matter my comrade.


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Broner asked for $6 million....and that was outrageous? :dahell::snoop:


Like I said then, nikkas can't pay AB the same to fight Pacquiao as they did Bradley in April. AB vs Pacquiao is a bigger matchup than that was, and the offer of $6 million wouldve been a perfect amount.

Instead, they now having to sell tickets for Pacquiao/Vargas in grocery stores and for $50:wow:

Buscuits isn't entitled to shyt
You have no knowledge of how big the fight "might" could be until then he should be happy to more than his maximum 1.5 million... If its such a big fight he can take guarantee and a percentage of backend ppv revenue
 

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Not a dig at you breh I hate that phrase "lost the fight won the event" I instantly associate it with Klitschko/Lewis, where you could see part of Klitschko's brain and he still wanted to fight.

The 2nd point is what's real frustrating. You see Sugar John has fought; AB, Lucas, Ruslan and will now be fighting Crawford, plus many other 'name' fighters. And he's only really beat one, maybe two if you include Mickey Bey or whatever TMT sparring partner that was.

Same shyt happens with Ghost, it was happening with JuanMa years after his Salido beatings, Josesito was getting it too etc etc. I got no issue with Craw fighting Molina it's just :dahell: to me to see John John get these kinds of opps over and over. I'm sure if Ruslan still wants to fight he'll have a tuneup against a Siberian Slam Poet and then be back headlining a Showtime card :mjcry:

I feel you it's just that's sometimes its the best way to describe certain fights. nikkas do better than cats expected, but still kinda fell short or didn't do enough to officially edge it (or get royally robbed)

I don't think Felix did enough to really outclass PED. He looked great in spots, but was taking steady body shots and was put on defense a lot.

Pac/JMM3, RJJ/Tarver, Diaz/PED, PED/Swift, are all fights where I thought the right guy won officially, but they lost the event. (Let their opponents look too good for 4 or 5 rounds)

Molina is still living off the Lundy and Bey wins, The Ruslan win was ok, but I don't think it's good enough to fight a guy like Crawford. Now if Molina would have beaten an Alexander, Ghost, Chaves, J.Lopez, after that then yeah okay hes on a lil win streak, feed him to Crawford.

but damn, one crossroads win gets you an HBO date with a p4p player is a bit much.

Hell, even Zab had to look good for a bit in order to get those Khan and Swift fights.

Molina putting in career mode jobber cheat codes in shyt. :mjlol:
 

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Buscuits isn't entitled to shyt
You have no knowledge of how big the fight "might" could be until then he should be happy to more than his maximum 1.5 million... If its such a big fight he can take guarantee and a percentage of backend ppv revenue

I guarantee Pacquiao vs Broner tickets wouldn't be going for as low as $50 & being sold at random Grocery Stores next to the produce section:mjlol:
 

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why not push both guys to get revenge losses instead of settling for c fighters vs craw. :yeshrug:
:mjlol: at you constantly blaming Boxing fans for your fighter agreeing to face John Molina...who NOBODY wanted to see vs Crawford and we didn't even know he was an option until Choc brought it up a few days ago:dead:


If you hadn't noticed, it doesn't matter who fans "push" for....because we pushed for Imam & Diaz, but it didn't happen. Instead Crawford signed his contract & chose who he wanted to face...and obviously, he put his name down to face Sugar John Molina. The same dude Antonio DeMarco KOd in 1 round. Same guy who couldn't solve Klimov. Same guy who got his head busted open & stopped by Matthysse. Same guy who made Humberto Soto look like he found the fountain of youth. Same guy who landed less than 5 punches a round, and took a Boxing clinic from AB.

Crawford agreed to face someone we've seen lose over & over & over again against top competition at 140 already and is too slow of hand/foot to deal with Crawford...and you asking about why we didn't push for both guys to avenge their loss, when Imam just told us he tried to fight Granados again but his team (Granados) refused the fight:mjlol:



like I said Molina face better fighters. unless broner /lucas all of sudden not better than Peterson idk. that's on u bro.

Who cares who you fight if you don't win or put on a decent account for yourself?


Molina was destroyed by DeMarco and outclassed easily by AB. Imam nor Diaz have ever lost a fight like Molina has on multiple occassions.

Imam's loss to Granados is on the same level as Molina's loss to Matthysse.

Diaz' loss to Peterson is debatable.

Peterson & Matthysse are on the same level.

I just cant see how anyone putting these c to bum fighters above each other.....

There's level to this.

ring mag rating hold weight realistically now? is that what we have changed to....Im sure I remember us saying it didn't matter my comrade.


#we forget....weeee forgetttttt
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Only person who doesn't care for RING ratings is @ChocolateGiddyUp


Obviously....you forgot.


However, RING Rankings =/= what level fighter you are. Its just the #1 rankings source for fighters by the Boxing Media.

There are no rankings in Boxing which hold more weight to the Boxing Media than RING Magazine's ratings...that's why Crawford is sitting all the way up at #5 P4P and being highly touted by the Boxing Media, when his best 3 wins are Burns/Gamboa/Postol...not exactly Murderers Row tbh, while someone like an undefeated Danny Garcia's top 3 wins of Khan/Matthysse/Peterson cant even get him a sniff of the P4P list.
 
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Right.


We already seen AB shut him out by easily outboxing him to a UD 12-0...Crawford should be able to do similar since he's supposedly a better Boxer than AB.

Definitely a waste of time imo too.

exactly everything you posted in your tweets are nothing but the truth if bud was fighting for any other boxing promoter the media and boxing critics would be shytting all over this fight
 

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:mjlol: at you constantly blaming Boxing fans for your fighter agreeing to face John Molina...who NOBODY wanted to see vs Crawford and we didn't even know he was an option until Choc brought it up a few days ago:dead:


If you hadn't noticed, it doesn't matter who fans "push" for....because we pushed for Imam & Diaz, but it didn't happen. Instead Crawford signed his contract & chose who he wanted to face...and obviously, he put his name down to face Sugar John Molina. The same dude Antonio DeMarco KOd in 1 round. Same guy who couldn't solve Klimov. Same guy who got his head busted open & stopped by Matthysse. Same guy who made Humberto Soto look like he found the fountain of youth. Same guy who landed less than 5 punches a round, and took a Boxing clinic from AB.

Crawford agreed to face someone we've seen lose over & over & over again against top competition at 140 already and is too slow of hand/foot to deal with Crawford...and you asking about why we didn't push for both guys to avenge their loss, when Imam just told us he tried to fight Granados again but his team (Granados) refused the fight:mjlol:





Who cares who you fight if you don't win or put on a decent account for yourself?


Molina was destroyed by DeMarco and outclassed easily by AB. Imam nor Diaz have ever lost a fight like Molina has on multiple occassions.

Imam's loss to Granados is on the same level as Molina's loss to Matthysse.

Diaz' loss to Peterson is debatable.

Peterson & Matthysse are on the same level.



There's level to this.



Only person who doesn't care for RING ratings is @ChocolateGiddyUp


Obviously....you forgot.


However, RING Rankings =/= what level fighter you are. Its just the #1 rankings source for fighters by the Boxing Media.

There are no rankings in Boxing which hold more weight to the Boxing Media than RING Magazine's ratings...that's why Crawford is sitting all the way up at #5 P4P and being highly touted by the Boxing Media, when his best 3 wins are Burns/Gamboa/Postol...not exactly Murderers Row tbh, while someone like an undefeated Danny Garcia's top 3 wins of Khan/Matthysse/Peterson cant even get him a sniff of the P4P list.


1.alright then if everything so useless :mjlol:then stop talking bout it all together.lol im not blaming boxing fans for this specific moment...im talking bout u . u the one keep pushing craw to fight iman or diaz like they would be any better than Molina. im not even blaming u cause u don't have power or whatever but u been pushing for diaz fights so why not tell him to go get that revenge for Peterson? did Peterson say he didn't want it.

2.so then u should be pushing for Granados to run back iman instead of fighting broner if iman is so worthy of a shot with craw surely broner can wait. iman troll/bum ass probably lying anyway.

3.rest of what u said are opinions and don't any weight regarding to levels and losses. I can say the same exact opposite. don't mean my opinion automatically right do it?


ima have to start pulling up quotes nikkas forget so much. u know im good for it.....already pulled up that "tune up quote"
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I think there is a lot of overdone bytching in this thread about the Crawford/Molina fight. True it is a mismatch and not a fight that anyone would ever have actually asked for but its also not the worst bit of matchmaking in boxing history; its not even the worst matchup this year. Boxing is a "what have you done for me lately" business and if Molina was coming off of that shameful performance in his fight with Broner then this would be a much bigger insult of a fight but the fact that Molina is coming off of a win in an entertaining fight against Ruslan Provodnikov makes him being Crawford's 3rd opponent this year easier to swallow.

And if there is not a collective groan from the boxing media where they shyt all over this as a mismatch it is because of the significance of Haymon and Arum working together to put on a fight. That is the news that the boxing media cares about, the actual fight between Crawford and Molina is a bit of an afterthought in the grand scheme of things because this could be the precursor to Top Rank and PBC fighters actually getting in the ring together on a more regular basis.
 

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1.alright then if everything so useless :mjlol:then stop talking bout it all together.lol im not blaming boxing fans for this specific moment...im talking bout u . u the one keep pushing craw to fight iman or diaz like they would be any better than Molina. im not even blaming u cause u don't have power or whatever but u been pushing for diaz fights so why not tell him to go get that revenge for Peterson? did Peterson say he didn't want it.

2.so then u should be pushing for Granados to run back iman instead of fighting broner if iman is so worthy of a shot with craw surely broner can wait. iman troll/bum ass probably lying anyway.

3.rest of what u said are opinions and don't any weight regarding to levels and losses. I can say the same exact opposite. don't mean my opinion automatically right do it?


ima have to start pulling up quotes nikkas forget so much. u know im good for it.....already pulled up that "tune up quote"
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Breh...I ain't about to going back and forth with you over Crawford choosing to face someone it took Antonio DeMarco less than 60 seconds to KO. Someone who landed only 54 punches over 36 minutes against a "no defense having"/"not a better Boxer than Crawford" Adrien Broner.

Like I said before: If Molina couldn't handle Humberto Soto's & Klimov's boxing...what do you think he's going to do with Crawford.

Just take your L like weve all had too breh. Your fighter just entered the cherry pickers club.:manny:
 

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I think there is a lot of overdone bytching in this thread about the Crawford/Molina fight. True it is a mismatch and not a fight that anyone would ever have actually asked for but its also not the worst bit of matchmaking in boxing history; its not even the worst matchup this year. Boxing is a "what have you done for me lately" business and if Molina was coming off of that shameful performance in his fight with Broner then this would be a much bigger insult of a fight but the fact that Molina is coming off of a win in an entertaining fight against Ruslan Provodnikov makes him being Crawford's 3rd opponent this year easier to swallow.

And if there is not a collective groan from the boxing media where they shyt all over this as a mismatch it is because of the significance of Haymon and Arum working together to put on a fight. That is the news that the boxing media cares about, the actual fight between Crawford and Molina is a bit of an afterthought in the grand scheme of things because this could be the precursor to Top Rank and PBC fighters actually getting in the ring together on a more regular basis.

Felix Diaz is advised by Allah Haymon (Imam too iirc)...a fight vs Crawford on HBO would've also thawed the ice too.
 

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Breh...I ain't about to going back and forth with you over Crawford choosing to face someone it took Antonio DeMarco less than 60 seconds to KO. Someone who landed only 54 punches over 36 minutes against a "no defense having"/"not a better Boxer than Crawford" Adrien Broner.

Like I said before: If Molina couldn't handle Humberto Soto's & Klimov's boxing...what do you think he's going to do with Crawford.

Just take your L like weve all had too breh. Your fighter just entered the cherry pickers club.:manny:

that's what u been wanted say since the beginng of time u aint slick I been had ur number.

no u take u take yo L cause u cant prove resume wise that either choice for craw any better. yall just on some" lets gets crawford for what media doing "bullshyt

and yes Crawford been in the cherry picking club breh breh cause no one hes been fighting is on his fukking level.:umad:

and since we love ring ratings so much we shouldn't be arguing about whos better. craw is no6 p4p which automatically means hes better than any fighter he could ever face in the future at 140-147-154.....no need to respond back cause Crawford is cleary beter than broner cause ring mag said so. #consistency
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