Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

reservoirdogs

Superstar
Joined
Jun 1, 2016
Messages
12,701
Reputation
1,030
Daps
25,487


I've got tired of Golovkin victimizes himself all the time. His best win is probably still Murray and he is 34 years old. He thinks that this is the fault of everybody else but not his, not even partially... :mjpls:
While HBO hype machine is behind him with full force

He thinks he is a piece of wood flowing in the river helplessly, completely dependent on his environmnet. At least that's what he pictures about himself in media. He is saltier and saltier every year and he claims everybody and their mother ducked him while there are call ous he doesn't even respond to (Lara) or seemingly wasn't interested to take (Ward) plus he could easily move up from his trash ass weightclass YEARS ago, but he chose to stick around there... :yeshrug:

He has the nerve to talk shyt on Froch who challenged himself against opponents who are easily stronger than any of Golovkin's wins. Abraham, Taylor, Ward, Kessler, Dirrell, Pascal > any GGG opponent


and then he says that Froch ducked him too :russ:
He should buy an acual duck cause seemingly this is his favorite word from his 50 words English vocabulary :ld:
 

Newzz

"The Truth" always prevails
Supporter
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
44,924
Reputation
7,470
Daps
104,633
Luis Ortiz splits with Golden Boy, becomes a free agent

10:14 AM ET
  • i

    Dan RafaelESPN Senior Writer
    Close
    • 2013 BWAA Nat Fleischer Award winner for excellence in boxing journalism
    • ESPN.com boxing writer since 2005
    • Five years at USA Today

Golden Boy Promotions received the final installment of its seven-figure contract buyout from heavyweight Luis "King Kong" Ortiz on Tuesday, making Ortiz a promotional free agent and bringing to an end the quick demise of what had been a fruitful relationship.

"Golden Boy Promotions and Luis Ortiz amicably parted ways," Golden Boy Promotions spokesman Stefan Friedman said in a statement. "We are proud of the work that Golden Boy and Luis accomplished together culminating in his WBA heavyweight interim championship victory and subsequent title defenses. We wish Luis and his team all the best in the future."

The statement for public consumption described an amicable separation, but that is not the case when the story is told privately.

Ortiz and Golden Boy had ironed out a deal for Ortiz to defend his interim title against mandatory challenger Alexander Ustinov on Sept. 17 in the co-feature on the Canelo Alvarez-Liam Smith HBO PPV card at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. However, after making a deal, Ortiz's camp tried to renegotiate for more money, according to two sources with knowledge of the situation.

Golden Boy declined to pay more than it had already agreed to and said Ortiz could sit or buy out his contract if his camp met the company's asking price. Ultimately, Ortiz's team came up with the low seven-figure payment -- in multiple installments -- and bought out the agreement.

According to those close to Golden Boy CEO Oscar De La Hoya, he was disgusted by the turn of events but took the attitude that life was too short to work with people who did not honor their agreement.

It became clear that Ortiz (25-0, 22 KOs) and Golden Boy were close to going their separate ways last week when the fight with the 39-year-old Ustinov (33-1, 24 KOs) was put up for auction at a purse bid and Golden Boy did not make an offer. Instead, there was only one bidder, Vlad Hrunov on behalf of Russian promoter Andrey Ryabinsky's World of Boxing. With nobody else in the room to force a bidding war, he bid the minimum of $600,000.

Ortiz is entitled to 60 percent, meaning he will earn $360,000, and Ustinov is entitled to 40 percent, meaning his purse will be $240,000.

With the fight tentatively slated for Nov. 19 in Moscow, Las Vegas or Minsk, the capital of Ustinov's native Belarus, Golden Boy said Ortiz would likely earn less than he was offered for the appearance on Sept. 17 because of the tax burden he would face fighting overseas -- not to mention he likely won't be granted the perks reserved for fighters on their own promoter's event.


Golden Boy did a superb job handling Ortiz, a 37-year-old southpaw who defected from Cuba and lives in Miami, during their time together. After he knocked out Lateef Kayode in the first round in 2014 to win a vacant interim title, Ortiz tested positive for a banned substance. He was stripped of the title, suspended and fined and the result was changed to a no decision. But despite so many being down on Ortiz, Golden Boy stuck by him and when he returned got him one tuneup fight and then another shot at the interim belt.

He knocked out overmatched Matias Ariel Vidondo in the third round on the HBO PPV undercard of Gennady Golovkin-David Lemieux to claim the interim title and has made two defenses. Golden Boy got both fights on HBO as main events, a sensational seventh-round knockout of contender Bryant Jennings in December followed by a sixth-round destruction of Tony Thompson on March 5, leading many to view Ortiz as the best heavyweight in the world. No one from Ortiz's team could be reached for comment.

Golden Boy parts ways with heavyweight Ortiz



He's a cheater anyways:pacspit:
 

reservoirdogs

Superstar
Joined
Jun 1, 2016
Messages
12,701
Reputation
1,030
Daps
25,487
Putting the most promising and exciting fighter on your struggle promotional banner on the shelf makes zero sense.
but... he fought in June
I get that he is upset but how is he in the shelf? He has a BS regular title WBA world title fight coming up what he can unify with the real WBA champ soon after. It's actually a jump in competition for him and a real chance to prove himself. How is that being in the shelf?
He can be upset about the training place or about Floyd praising the Olympians or whatever but it's not true that he would be in the shelf
 

Jello Biafra

A true friend stabs you in the front
Supporter
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
46,184
Reputation
4,912
Daps
120,859
Reppin
Behind You
but... he fought in June
I get that he is upset but how is he in the shelf? He has a BS regular title WBA world title fight coming up what he can unify with the real WBA champ soon after. It's actually a jump in competition for him and a real chance to prove himself. How is that being in the shelf?
He can be upset about the training place or about Floyd praising the Olympians or whatever but it's not true that he would be in the shelf
I forgot he fought in June. I thought he hadn't fought since the card at the DC Armory in April.
 

Newzz

"The Truth" always prevails
Supporter
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
44,924
Reputation
7,470
Daps
104,633
but... he fought in June
I get that he is upset but how is he in the shelf?
He has a BS regular title WBA world title fight coming up what he can unify with the real WBA champ soon after. It's actually a jump in competition for him and a real chance to prove himself. How is that being in the shelf?
He can be upset about the training place or about Floyd praising the Olympians or whatever but it's not true that he would be in the shelf


Yall keep saying this...but have yall actually looked INTO that fight?:dwillhuh:


He won via 1st round KO in under 1 minute. He didn't even "fight" for 60 seconds breh:dwillhuh:


So far, in 2016, he's only had 7 rounds of action....and is supposed to fight for a Championship, in a "jump in competition" as you state, in late October? That's "on the shelf" to him, because he's not getting any work. An A class promoter would've had him back in the ring in late July - early August at the very latest. Instead, he's sitting. That's why he feels this way.
 

Newzz

"The Truth" always prevails
Supporter
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
44,924
Reputation
7,470
Daps
104,633
I forgot he fought in June. I thought he hadn't fought since the card at the DC Armory in April.

It takes longer to post 5x in a row on here than Tank's last fight. It was over in under 60 seconds.


He should've been fighting in July.
 

Jello Biafra

A true friend stabs you in the front
Supporter
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
46,184
Reputation
4,912
Daps
120,859
Reppin
Behind You
Luis Ortiz splits with Golden Boy, becomes a free agent

10:14 AM ET
  • i

    Dan RafaelESPN Senior Writer
    Close
    • 2013 BWAA Nat Fleischer Award winner for excellence in boxing journalism
    • ESPN.com boxing writer since 2005
    • Five years at USA Today

Golden Boy Promotions received the final installment of its seven-figure contract buyout from heavyweight Luis "King Kong" Ortiz on Tuesday, making Ortiz a promotional free agent and bringing to an end the quick demise of what had been a fruitful relationship.

"Golden Boy Promotions and Luis Ortiz amicably parted ways," Golden Boy Promotions spokesman Stefan Friedman said in a statement. "We are proud of the work that Golden Boy and Luis accomplished together culminating in his WBA heavyweight interim championship victory and subsequent title defenses. We wish Luis and his team all the best in the future."

The statement for public consumption described an amicable separation, but that is not the case when the story is told privately.

Ortiz and Golden Boy had ironed out a deal for Ortiz to defend his interim title against mandatory challenger Alexander Ustinov on Sept. 17 in the co-feature on the Canelo Alvarez-Liam Smith HBO PPV card at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. However, after making a deal, Ortiz's camp tried to renegotiate for more money, according to two sources with knowledge of the situation.

Golden Boy declined to pay more than it had already agreed to and said Ortiz could sit or buy out his contract if his camp met the company's asking price. Ultimately, Ortiz's team came up with the low seven-figure payment -- in multiple installments -- and bought out the agreement.

According to those close to Golden Boy CEO Oscar De La Hoya, he was disgusted by the turn of events but took the attitude that life was too short to work with people who did not honor their agreement.

It became clear that Ortiz (25-0, 22 KOs) and Golden Boy were close to going their separate ways last week when the fight with the 39-year-old Ustinov (33-1, 24 KOs) was put up for auction at a purse bid and Golden Boy did not make an offer. Instead, there was only one bidder, Vlad Hrunov on behalf of Russian promoter Andrey Ryabinsky's World of Boxing. With nobody else in the room to force a bidding war, he bid the minimum of $600,000.

Ortiz is entitled to 60 percent, meaning he will earn $360,000, and Ustinov is entitled to 40 percent, meaning his purse will be $240,000.

With the fight tentatively slated for Nov. 19 in Moscow, Las Vegas or Minsk, the capital of Ustinov's native Belarus, Golden Boy said Ortiz would likely earn less than he was offered for the appearance on Sept. 17 because of the tax burden he would face fighting overseas -- not to mention he likely won't be granted the perks reserved for fighters on their own promoter's event.


Golden Boy did a superb job handling Ortiz, a 37-year-old southpaw who defected from Cuba and lives in Miami, during their time together. After he knocked out Lateef Kayode in the first round in 2014 to win a vacant interim title, Ortiz tested positive for a banned substance. He was stripped of the title, suspended and fined and the result was changed to a no decision. But despite so many being down on Ortiz, Golden Boy stuck by him and when he returned got him one tuneup fight and then another shot at the interim belt.

He knocked out overmatched Matias Ariel Vidondo in the third round on the HBO PPV undercard of Gennady Golovkin-David Lemieux to claim the interim title and has made two defenses. Golden Boy got both fights on HBO as main events, a sensational seventh-round knockout of contender Bryant Jennings in December followed by a sixth-round destruction of Tony Thompson on March 5, leading many to view Ortiz as the best heavyweight in the world. No one from Ortiz's team could be reached for comment.

Golden Boy parts ways with heavyweight Ortiz



He's a cheater anyways:pacspit:
Don't blame Oscar on this one. He stood by Luis after the banned substance stuff; got him the two shots at interim belts; kept him fighting on HBO (at a time when HBO is shytty as a boxing venue) and in return Luis camp tries to go back on deals they agreed to.

On the plus side, Luis will probably sing with PBC which means he has more options for fights.
 

reservoirdogs

Superstar
Joined
Jun 1, 2016
Messages
12,701
Reputation
1,030
Daps
25,487
Yall keep saying this...but have yall actually looked INTO that fight?:dwillhuh:


He won via 1st round KO in under 1 minute. He didn't even "fight" for 60 seconds breh:dwillhuh:


So far, in 2016, he's only had 7 rounds of action....and is supposed to fight for a Championship, in a "jump in competition" as you state, in late October? That's "on the shelf" to him, because he's not getting any work. An A class promoter would've had him back in the ring in late July - early August at the very latest. Instead, he's sitting. That's why he feels this way.
As I said he has a title fight coming up. Supposedly in October. If that's not good enough for him then idk... :yeshrug:
 

reservoirdogs

Superstar
Joined
Jun 1, 2016
Messages
12,701
Reputation
1,030
Daps
25,487
Don't blame Oscar on this one. He stood by Luis after the banned substance stuff; got him the two shots at interim belts; kept him fighting on HBO (at a time when HBO is shytty as a boxing venue) and in return Luis camp tries to go back on deals they agreed to.

On the plus side, Luis will probably sing with PBC which means he has more options for fights.
Oscar just lost his second best fighter from his stable.


Opinions on GBP roster btw?
I looked at it, it seems like he has many fighters but only a handful of them are even contender status. Canelo is his only star that's been known but from his other fighters there are barely a few one I know like that... Shabranskyy and Joseph Diaz are probably his most promising fighters. Frankie Gomez too but it's suspect that he will be an underachiever
 
Top