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Yall 2 nikkas is in here defending a blatent duck. Lara aint no fukking lateral movement. Lara is the #1 ranked in the entire division and Andrade who already lost to Lara in the ammys dont even wanna run that back talking bout he a last resort :camby:

If he's acknowledging dude is a last resort, how is that a duck? :dwillhuh:

If he HAS to fight him, he WILL.

What don't you understand from that breh?

It's not like he flat out said no. He's just going in a different direction.
 

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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
Draw with Carlos Molina, draw with Vanes Martirosyan, struggle win over Vanes Martirosyan, non existing fanbase, non draw on TV, no money on the table, hasn't participated in a non-boring fight since LeBron was still ringless:russell:



We demanding professional fighters to avenge amateur losses now and throw away mandatory fights against Charlo and Canelo now?:dahell::mjlol:

The nikka Andrade said straight frm his mouth that he aint interested in a Lara fight unless Lara fights him the way he fiught versus Vanes.. But since Andrade doesn't think he will fight like that against him, he aint intersted and is a last resort... If that aint a blatent duck I dont know what it is breh
 

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If he's acknowledging dude is a last resort, how is that a duck? :dwillhuh:

If he HAS to fight him, he WILL.

What don't you understand from that breh?

It's not like he flat out said no. He's just going in a different direction.

nikka dont want that work from Lara.. At least he's honest about it.. why aren't you :smugfavre:
 

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Clearly Andrade doesn't want the fade with Lara breh so maybe he disagrees with you :ld:

Desperate to face a Charlo, but Lara's at the 'bottom of the list' :jbhmm:

What do you mean he "clearly" doesn't want the fade?:dahell:


So, we're going to take 1 article which he says Lara is LAST resort (not that he wouldn't fight him, but his last resort which he gave the reasons for why) but leave out all the many articles where he's called him out over and over again with no response from Lara?:jbhmm:


Secondly, since Bradley didn't accept AB's request to shoot the fade...should I say he's ducking AB as well?:mjpls:


Like, I don't know if yall aint reading it all the way thru, but Andrade has been the one calling out Lara....not vice versa. So how can you duck the person YOU'RE calling out?:what:


It makes 0 sense:dead:


Andrade has said over and over again, even BEFORE beating Willie Nelson, that he wants the Charlos first and then Lara...but yall having selective memory out here in these ring streets:



Demetrius Andrade: ‘I will make history by beating both of the Charlo twins. Then Erislandy Lara’




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UNDEFEATED super-welterweight Demetrius “Boo Boo” Andrade is in a good place as he prepares for his June 11 showdown versus Willie “The Great” Nelson on Showtime (9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT) from Turning Stone Casino in Verona, N.Y.

Approaching the peak of his professional boxing career, the 28-year-old Andrade (22-0, 15 KOs) has moved past a frustrating three-year stretch that, after he won a 12-round decision over Vanes Martirosyan for the vacant World Boxing Organization (WBO) 154-pound world title, found him fighting only twice. One was his only title defense, in which he won impressively by way of a seventh-round stoppage of then WBO No. 1 mandatory title challenger Brian Rose. But, due to promotional issues, Andrade was later stripped by the WBO for inactivity. His last fight was this past October when he recorded a second-round knockout of Dario Fabian Pucheta for the WBO International belt.

Now, Andrade has a new three-year promotional contract that gives his company, A Team Promotions, 50 percent of his promotional rights to go along with 25 percent each for Banner Promotions and Star Boxing.

“I’ve always been in a good place, mentally, because I have confidence in myself,” said Andrade on what he went through during his long stretch outside of the ring. “I continued training hard. The politics of boxing, well, I’m not 100 percent there yet. Not until I’m actually in the ring and fighting will I actually know if that’s worked out for me.

“I’m satisfied in my future, showcasing myself in the ring. I own 50 percent of myself and that – being a promoter – is a big factor. I know everything now, including all the real numbers, and I’ve learned about the ins and outs of this business. I’m also meeting the right network of people to help my career.”

Andrade is thrilled to be fighting on Showtime for the second time during his career, the first back in 2013 on ShoBox: The New Generation against Freddy Hernandez. “The top 154-pounders are with SHOWTIME. I’d like to thank SHOWTIME for giving me this amazing opportunity,” he said.

Andrade-Nelson is a 12-round WBC title elimination fight to determine the second mandatory challenger for new WBC Super Welterweight Champion Jermell Charlo, who, as the WBC No. 1 contender was matched last May 21 with No. 2 rated John Jackson. No. 3 Andrade was originally slated to face No. 5 Charles Hatley in a title eliminator to determine the No. 1 mandatory contender. However, negotiations with Hatley’s promoter, Don King, failed to materialize and Andrade moved on to fight WBC No. 10 Nelson. The WBC declared Hatley as Charlo’s mandatory challenger, despite him being ranked lower than Andrade, with the Andrade-Nelson winner now declared the mandatory title challenger for the future Charlo-Hatley victor.

Andrade, though, has no hard feelings with the WBC about its decisions. “I’m just thankful to be fighting in this ‘tournament’,” he commented. “Charlo was the WBC International champion and he should have had the opportunity to fight for the vacant title. I have the WBO International title, Hatley the WBC Silver title, so Hatley should probably have been ranked higher than me by the WBC. I respect the WBC’s decision to make him the first mandatory challenger.”
Nelson (25-2-1, 15 KOs) and Andrade are familiar with each other through the USA Boxing amateur program, but the two have never met in the ring.

“Nelson lets his hands go,” Andrade noted. “He likes to mix it up and so do I. I like to think that I’m a little smarter than him in the ring. This is going to be an interesting fight. I respect him for taking the fight and I’m preparing to fight the toughest opponent I’ve ever faced. He may be the tallest guy (6′ 3″) I’ve ever fought as a pro, but it’s only a few inches, and not a big deal.”

Andrade is back on his way to reaching the peak of the 154-pound division once again.

“I am ready to set the roof on fire on June 11,” Andrade said. “Once everyone at 154 pounds gets a taste of me, they will know I am the greatest. The Charlos made history by becoming the first twins to hold titles in the same weight division. I will make history by beating both of them. Then I will beat Lara and unify all of the belts.

“Stay tuned. I am a force to be reckoned with. I will show the world that the best 154 pound fighter in the world is Demetrius Andrade.”



Demetrius Andrade: 'I will make history by beating both of the Charlo twins. Then Erislandy Lara' - Boxing News






Like, cmon brehs:dahell::dahell::dahell:
 

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It's not like Cotto washed that nikka. He beat Shane like 7-5 or 8-4. Good win though.

Shane and Cotto are HOF that have had better careers than Vargas, Reid, and Joppy, but that doesn't mean they beat them head to head in a fight. Tito had better careers than them too and beat they asses.

Shane and Cotto aren't going through prime versions of Vargas, Reid, and Joppy undefeated. Them nikkas gonna be taking an L or two.
At 147 cotto beats all of them imo. You old ass nostalgic nikkas overate tito too much he a physical beast but he was predictable and his right was nothing to fear. I change my mind cotto would beat tito at 147 imo
 

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The nikka Andrade said straight frm his mouth that he aint interested in a Lara fight unless Lara fights him the way he fiught versus Vanes.. But since Andrade doesn't think he will fight like that against him, he aint intersted and is a last resort... If that aint a blatent duck I dont know what it is breh

And he explained why:

"He wont engage or try and make the fight interesting, especially if it's coming into my favor. He's just going to try and survive, try to run, try to do the little pitty-pat counter punches. Im not about that right now. Im about sitting in there, doing what I need to do best, and letting the fans know Im willing to get in there with anybody and put on a show and make ends meet."


It's the same reason people don't want to fight :sadrigo: and the reason why people refuse to fight Lara...his fighting "style" is boring, generates no buzz/money/tickets. He will fight him if it's the only option he has, but that's not something he wants to make over the Charlos or Canelo because they equal much bigger matchups, paydays, and entertainment.
 

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And he explained why:

"He wont engage or try and make the fight interesting, especially if it's coming into my favor. He's just going to try and survive, try to run, try to do the little pitty-pat counter punches. Im not about that right now. Im about sitting in there, doing what I need to do best, and letting the fans know Im willing to get in there with anybody and put on a show and make ends meet."


It's the same reason people don't want to fight :sadrigo: and the reason why people refuse to fight Lara...his fighting "style" is boring, generates no buzz/money/tickets. He will fight him if it's the only option he has, but that's not something he wants to make over the Charlos or Canelo because they equal much bigger matchups, paydays, and entertainment.

:stopitslime:

These cubans got nikkas shook, and you defending it :snoop:
 

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Draw with Carlos Molina, draw with Vanes Martirosyan, struggle win over Vanes Martirosyan, non existing fanbase, non draw on TV, no money on the table, hasn't participated in a non-boring fight since LeBron was still ringless:russell:



We demanding professional fighters to avenge amateur losses now and throw away mandatory fights against Charlo and Canelo now?:dahell::mjlol:
I feel ya. Lara has proven he is one of the best at 154, but he hasnt done shyt to prove he is the best.

And Andrade is right IMO, no one wants to fight Lara, but not because they think they will lose the fight, but rather because you "lose" when you take a fight with Lara. He brings no fans, no money, no ratings, and will do everything he can to make the fight as unwatchable as possible.

There are differences. Andrade and Ward are skilled boxers who are entertaining. Lara and Rigo are skilled boxers, but are struggle watches. It is what it is.

Fighting Lara gets you no credit in the mainstream and some from boxing insiders, but probably less than it should because they are like fighting Lara is a good fight vs. a top fighter, just don't make us broadcast or cover it. :whoa: The biggest props comes from die hards, but we are the minority when it comes to making money and growing your brand.

I don't have a problem with anyone who is :ld: on a Lara fight. You can't duck and dodge him when he is in your way, but I understand when you have 3 or 4 quality opponents to choose from, Lara probably is going to be the last choice because of the reasons above.
 

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Yall, @mr. smoke weed & @Black_Jesus wanna talk now....but said nothing when just last week Andrade said THIS:


Andrade: I've Been Calling Out Erislandy Lara For a Long Time! - Boxing News


"I am the best fighter in the 154-pound division," Andrade proclaimed. "I'm the No.1 contender in the WBO. Liam Smith is holding my belt but I don't believe he'll fight me. I'm the WBC mandatory for the Charlo-Hatley winner. Once I get that belt I'll beat Charlo's twin for the IBF title and I've been calling out (WBA Champ Erislandy) Lara for a long time. But 'Canelo' is the big money fight out there for me and who I want the most. I can be ready for him in September for his next fight."

"When I first turned pro," Andrade explained, "I was getting in the ring with some good fighters, so I was cautious and settled in on just getting a victory. I learned that I needed to change in order to put butts in seats"



He's been saying the same stuff for a minute, after he beat Nelson he said he worked on his strength and he learned he needed to engage in more exciting fights & also wanted to fight those who's name began with a C and ended with an O (Canelo, Charlo, Cotto) next, but now yall wanna act like this is brand new info and he's "ducking" Lara who hasn't mentioned any names except GGG over the last year.......and he said he WOULD still fight him, but only as a last resort bc he's not entertaining to watch:martin:
 

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At 147 cotto beats all of them imo. You old ass nostalgic nikkas overate tito too much he a physical beast but he was predictable and his right was nothing to fear. I change my mind cotto would beat tito at 147 imo
:mjlol: if you say so breh.

Nobody is being nostalgic. It just sounds that way because you don't wanna acknowledge the legends from yesterday. That's cool, but just remember you're in the minority with your opinion.

With that said, I'll still respect it. I respect this era, but seeing both unfold allows one to put things in perspective.

It's all good.
 
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