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he wouldn't be to cotto though:sas1:



canelo is the biggest draw in the sport now with floyd gone. end of story. floyd was the biggest draw in boxing history and even he agrees. he also said little g hasn't earned his shot vs canelo. so your argument is deaded.


A known Floyd hater using Floyd's words to back his new favorite fighter:heh:



but lets forget that for a minute....like I said....canelo had 15 days to make the fight. what do you suggest he do?....rush the process and keep himself from getting the best deal possible?....it's the biggest fight of his life, but he gotta make a deal in under 2 weeks just appease the boxing purists who pretend they actually give a fukk about the belt:pachaha:.....if the fight is made, NOBODY on here will give two fukks if the belt is on the line or not.


Fight GGG at 160 in his very next fight as he said he would do.


if broner was making the biggest fight of his life and the wbc told him you either make that shyt in 2 weeks or drop the belt...no extensions...you'd be in here shytting on the wbc. if broner dropped the belt cause negotiations were gonna go over but still said he wanted the fight, you certainly wouldn't be in here calling him a ducker until EVERYTHING was final. until negotiations were done and broner signed to fight somebody else. but with canelo...nah. he dropped the belt like the wbc required. he said he wants the fight. little g's promoter said negotiations are going great. but you choose to ignore that. you choose to ignore the only man who's in contact with golden boy so you can paint canelo as a ducker. you saying you'd call AB a ducker in the same exact situation is a straight up LIE. you'd give him the benefit of the doubt til the very last second. with canelo's history and you being a real "fan", he deserves the same benefit. that's all i'm saying.

AB has never done this and has never given any hints that he would call someone out at the full weight limit, and then back down and vacate his belt :manny:


Canelo vs GGG at 160 has to happen or he's it's a blatant duck to me breh:yeshrug:
 

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Canelo has one decisive victory over an elite name (Cotto) and somehow he's this boss tyc00n nikka of boxing.

Take away that win and all he has is a loss to Floyd and a couple razor thin wins over Trout and Lara, followed by a bunch of fights with past prime nikkas like Baldomier and Shane.

nikkas shyt on Swift for having some close wins, but at least he won big against Khan and Matthysse (2 guys in their prime that were favored to beat him)
You right breh. The Canelo is king mantra that gets spread is because of his popularity, not his resume. He struggled vs. Trout and Lara (while Lara ran the whole fight), got washed by Floyd and impressively beat Cotto...but Cotto looked a full 1 or 2 weight classes smaller in the ring.

Is Canelo's resume better than GGG's? Yes, but not by the amounts people say. His fights have also come against guys who are always smaller than him in the ring. I would like to see Canelo in there vs. a guy who physically looks like Canelo on fight night (170-175 lbs).

We can all hash the argument of GGG hasn't cleaned every nook and cranny of MW yet. But we know he is trying. Saunders and Jacobs have been called out, but have been nowhere to be found. After that, there are good fights, but no one who is a must fight...outside of Canelo.

And let's not act like GGG hasn't been the most respected MW to challenge for the lineal championship since Sergio vs. Murray (and Murray deserved to win that fight). Dibella said there was no way he would let Sergio fight GGG because he was too dangerous. So that WBC and lineal championship has been running from GGG for awhile.

Canelo said he was willing to fight and Canelo has no better options for the mixture of quality of fight and money, so it is time to do it. He can make more money vs. Cotto and Pacquiao yes...but they aren't as dangerous as GGG and continue the trend of smaller opponents in the ring who can't hurt him. But the fact that PPV is dead and GGG isn't popular is a myth. #CaneloCartel knows damn well a GGG fight would do well on PPV. And GGG is a relatively inexpensive opponent. He has already said he would be willing to take 30% or less of the pot.

Time to come out and play. :ufdup:
 

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Damn some of ya'll turned on Canelo quick :lolbron: the fight is still going to happen but now it's going to be more on Canelo's terms and the tactic to use the belt to make GGG the A side between the two of them now got thrown into the bushes :yeshrug:. I agree with Reflex, ain't no way in hell a superfight is getting done in 15 days. You've got to set a date, venue, money split and all kind of stuff ( Canelo might want to add what gloves can be used too :mjpls:) ggg needs Canelo..so he's the A side no matter what.
 

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Canelo vs GGG at 160 has to happen or he's it's a blatant duck to me breh:yeshrug:
I agree. and it WILL happen. but that's not the point i'm making. dude said 2 weeks ago he doesn't care about the belt...they can fight for pride only. so I don't know why it's shocking he dropped the belt. both sides said negotiations are still on and loeffler said canelo has made no outrageous demands. but you are already labeling canelo a ducker before negotiations have even been finalized...before a duck has even happened. dropping the belt is not a duck. it was a requirement by the wbc. no fight should have a 15 day window to make a deal...especially not one of this magnitude. if there was no 15 day deadline, i'd say yea...that's a horrible look. but canelo just followed the rules set in place and even k2 agreed. if you don't see the point i'm making it is what it is. but dropping the belt means nothing in this case. the fight will happen. and i'm pretty positive it will happen at 160.
 

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Always hearing from the Porter camp (Kenny in particular) it's good to hear from Thurman

Keith Thurman confronts Porter about alleged sparring session



Danny Esch: The mega fight between Keith “One Time” Thurman and Shawn “Showtime” Porter will soon make landfall on June 25th at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn New York. For those that don’t understand the magnitude of this fight let me emphasize my point to you that this truly is a “Mega” type of fight.

I emphasize this point because you will have the luxury of watching two young guys who are both in their prime years in this sport. This fight is truly a 50/50 type of fight because both fighters posses knock out power in both hands and arguably unblemished records except for Porters fight against Kell Brook that some say Shawn Porter actually one.

These two fighters also have a long history together growing up in the Amateur Boxing arenas and sparring sessions in each others clubs. On one side you have “Showtime” Shawn Porter who comes from a great and respectable background and who is trained by his father Kenny Porter.

Shawn Porters last ‘Named’ opponent was the flashy confrontational Adrien Broner, who Porter beat convincingly even though he did touch the canvas for a brief moment towards the end of the fight in the 12th round. On the other side, you have Keith “One Time” Thurman from Clearwater, Florida, who has a very healthy knockout ratio of 81% and who still is an undefeated welterweight with a record of 26-0. As part of their promotional obligations both fighters were in Brooklyn, New York recently doing a photo shoot and a special shout out to “The Boxing Voice” team who captured the footage. Nestor Gibbs of “The Boxing Voice” interviewed Keith Thurman outside of the venue.

Nestor: “Keith, There has been a lot of speculation and rumors and a lot of things made about the time you and Shawn spent together in training camp for your Marcos Maidana fight. Now what I know and my hardcores know is that you were only 17-0 at the time so are the Porter’s taking to much from what they gathered way back then during that sparring session.”

Thurman: “Well, first OFF you yourself should see what the tape looks like.”

Thurman: “Don’t Talk about what “other” people said happened okay because the only people that know what happened are people from my gym because it happened in my gym OK.”

Thurman: “Look, Nestor, I’ve seen your interviews I know you have been talking to the Porter’s but none of that matters on June 25th and I already said it at the conference today and I’m going to keep saying it up until the fight that Shawn Porter is going to get DROPPED. okay. I mean I’m coming to do what I do best man and that is Hurting People. One thing that you see “One Time” do each and every time is hurt somebody and Shawn Porter ain’t gonna be any different.”

Nestor Gibbs concluded the interview and immediately relayed all that was said to Kenny Porter (Trainer/Father) who has been adamant about his sons dominance over Keith during that session. In my opinion Kenny Porter got on his bike and back peddled when Keith confronted him.

Nestor: “Hey, Kenny, you heard Keith he said I know Shawn Porters daddy said what he saw in that sparring match but that was years ago.”

Porter: “They know because they (Team Thurman) have the video tape because they filmed it”

Now during this time Kenny Porter doesn’t even realize that Thurman is right behind him listening in to his response and proceeds to run up to Kenny Porter.

Porter: “They have the tape.”

Thurman: “We got the tape baby now hold up hold up hold up hold UP ya”ll can talk about whatever highlights ya”ll remember but let me talk about the highlights that I remember.”

Porter: “I don’t remember any highlights.”

Thurman: “Oh ok, so now you don’t remember. Okay, so you don’t remember any highlights now but what did you talk to him (Nestor) about?”


Thurman: “So let’s put the tape on YOUTUBE and let the world see it and decide.”

 

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Damn some of ya'll turned on Canelo quick :lolbron: the fight is still going to happen but now it's going to be more on Canelo's terms and the tactic to use the belt to make GGG the A side between the two of them now got thrown into the bushes :yeshrug:. I agree with Reflex, ain't no way in hell a superfight is getting done in 15 days. You've got to set a date, venue, money split and all kind of stuff ( Canelo might want to add what gloves can be used too :mjpls:) ggg needs Canelo..so he's the A side no matter what.
exactly. come on now. giving ANY fight a 15 day window is a joke. but a super fight like this?....the wbc pretty much left canelo no other option but to drop the belt. it really means nothing at the end of the day though. the fight will get made regardless. but it was never getting done in 15 days.
 

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I also find it interesting that Lemieux got his ass beat vs. GGG and didn't win a second of that fight and he has been calling GGG out for a rematch and wants a Canelo fight.

That is heart. :salute:
 

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exactly. come on now. giving ANY fight a 15 day window is a joke. but a super fight like this?....the wbc pretty much left canelo no other option but to drop the belt. it really means nothing at the end of the day though. the fight will get made regardless. but it was never getting done in 15 days.
this aint no super fight :mjlol:
 

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right. so I guess canelo-cotto wasn't a superfight either. and this fight will DEFINITELY do better numbers than canelo-cotto.


either way, NO fight should have a 15 day deadline. and it's not even an argument.
canelo-cotto and this fight is just a fight that deserves ppv.

super fights are oscar-floyd, floyd-manny, lewis-tyson.

every pro boxer knows this fight could have got done in 15 days, canelo could have even asked for a extention but he ran and the whole boxing world is laughing at him.
 
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