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Langford not winning a title is like saying RJJ didn’t win a gold medal. Even worse because it had nothing to do with boxing. I don’t even count him. He is a GOAT.

Tua and Matthyse beat some guys who were champs but never outright held a world title. Golota had a chance. Oba Carr was roadblocked, fought all 3 kings at welterweight during his time.

Management played a part in some of these. Ruddock never even fought for a title
 

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Rare hearing Ali curse!!!!!
for a min i thought it was AI but May May is in the comments pretty much cosigning the legitimacy of it lol. only the second clip ive seen of ali cussing. he had a knack for it haha
 

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The WBA muddied the waters with regular and interim titles. I don’t count them shyts. Is Vivian Harris more of a champ than Matthyse? They were both regular champs but Harris got elevated when Tszyu was stripped. Regular title was a glorified mandatory that WBA was able to get more fees from.
 

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Was just about to post this in reference to what fighters won titles by disqualification. This and Luis Santana (Terry Norris) come to mind.
to this day ppl have a hard time believing griffin was giving roy trouble and was not out of the fight scorecard wise when that DQ hit
 

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Futch had a gift for dissecting elite boxers with game plans for his fighters
I's why Ken Norton gave Ali hell when they fought. Roy's style isn't far off from Ali's so Futch was already semi familiar to give him trouble. Even if Griffin had Futch in his corner for the 2nd fight, he might've been caught off guard with Roy coming out like a kamikaze lol
 
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