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[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Where did I say Canelo was shook of them?
I coul've swore I said that GB wont put him in the ring with them....not that Canelo is afraid to face them


And I stand by that statement until I see Canelo face off against one.

canelo has forced oscar's hand many of times. that's why I respect him. he could have taken the easy road. he had everything to be a star. the image, the fighting style. he didn't have to do shyt but fight C level opponents and he was gonna become a star regardless. but he was like nah...I don't want it like that. I want the best. I wanna fight guys who are gonna test me. he fought austin trout with a floyd fight hanging in the balance. that's guts right there. most fighters woulda taken a low risk fight to make sure that floyd superfight stayed safe. but canelo took on the riskiest fight possible for him. he earned his superstar status the hard way. and for that reason he earned the right to look at these other young fighters today and tell em to fight eachother and earn their shot as well. mind you, he's actually younger than all of these "young" guys callin him out


canelo doesn't have to force goldenboy's hand anymore...he's done that enough. it's time for these young guys to do what he did and force their promotor's hand if they wanna be great. how are we callin canelo a ducker when all these guys callin him out at 154 are duckin eachother.....what the fukk kind of inception level ducking is this

 

[mr heyzel]

@patscorpio @LauderdaleBoss @mr heyzel...brehs, the way they are just dismissing Andrade, Williams, and Lubin as if they are some no name bums is to me as if those aren't 3 of the Top 6 Junior Middleweights today strictly off of skill alone.


I've already laid out on the table several reasons off the top of my head as to why I think Canelo loses to any of the 3:

1. He's only 5'9 with a 70'' reach. Williams is 5'11 with a 73'' reach, Lubin is 5'11 with a 76'' reach, and Andrade is 6'1 with long arms as well
2. Canelo has always been bigger or heavier than everyone he's faced...sometimes both. He wouldn't have both advantages against any of the 3 names I listed
3. Canelo has good boxing skill and power, but the same can be said for Williams, Andrade, and Lubin
4. Canelo has struggled against Trout, Floyd, Lara, and even Khan...all guys who box first with light power (Khan doesn't possess JMW punching power) Williams, Lubin, and Andrade are of the same style that has given Canelo problems, but bring more power to the table than those 4 did.

I would like to see Canelo matched up at 155 against either of em (Andrade or Williams) if he doesn't face GGG next, but I doubt it happens. I think GBP will keep him away from bigger, more athletic black fighters with boxing skill and punching power.


If it's not GGG, it'll be Cotto again

you have to look at it like this it's agenda behind canelo and his bs he gets no respect from me after Saturday he could have fought any fighter between 154-160 that's on the outside of the top 10 in each of those division but he fought a chinney welterweight that posed no threat at all and he knew he was going to out weight him fight night by 25 pounds smh that fight was like watching rey mistiro vs hhh lol

 

[mr heyzel]

@patscorpio @LauderdaleBoss @mr heyzel...brehs, the way they are just dismissing Andrade, Williams, and Lubin as if they are some no name bums is to me as if those aren't 3 of the Top 6 Junior Middleweights today strictly off of skill alone.


I've already laid out on the table several reasons off the top of my head as to why I think Canelo loses to any of the 3:

1. He's only 5'9 with a 70'' reach. Williams is 5'11 with a 73'' reach, Lubin is 5'11 with a 76'' reach, and Andrade is 6'1 with long arms as well
2. Canelo has always been bigger or heavier than everyone he's faced...sometimes both. He wouldn't have both advantages against any of the 3 names I listed
3. Canelo has good boxing skill and power, but the same can be said for Williams, Andrade, and Lubin
4. Canelo has struggled against Trout, Floyd, Lara, and even Khan...all guys who box first with light power (Khan doesn't possess JMW punching power) Williams, Lubin, and Andrade are of the same style that has given Canelo problems, but bring more power to the table than those 4 did.

I would like to see Canelo matched up at 155 against either of em (Andrade or Williams) if he doesn't face GGG next, but I doubt it happens. I think GBP will keep him away from bigger, more athletic black fighters with boxing skill and punching power.


If it's not GGG, it'll be Cotto again

you have to look at it like this it's agenda behind canelo and his bs he gets no respect from me after Saturday he could have fought any fighter between 154-160 that's on the outside of the top 10 in each of those division but he fought a chinney welterweight that posed no threat at all and he knew he was going to out weight him fight night by 25 pounds smh that fight was like watching rey mistiro vs hhh lol

 

[Mook]

Nope.



I don't equate any Afro-Latinos born and raised in another country with African-Americans



Totally different cultures & upbringings....and a lot of them be racist against us AA's when they DO get here

when me and @LeVraiPapi were getting recruited by zoe pound we used to ride around stomping out AA's

 

[#SOG_soldier]

you have to look at it like this it's agenda behind canelo and his bs he gets no respect from me after Saturday he could have fought any fighter between 154-160 that's on the outside of the top 10 in each of those division but he fought a chinney welterweight that posed no threat at all and he knew he was going to out weight him fight night by 25 pounds smh that fight was like watching rey mistiro vs hhh lol

Who at 154 or 160 was willing to go to 155 aND face him?






A bunch of fighters with no resumes or no fanbases?





You do know this is prizefighting.




Nobody at 160 or 154 is a draw outside of 97g and the eurocac refuses to bow down. Oh well time to make the PERMANENT move to 160 and unify.





Just have the built in excuses hot and fresh out the oven when canelo takes over 160 and the boogeyman black fighters at 154 come up in weight and start getting slumped by the future GOAT Mexican fighter

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

He clearly beat 2 outta those three. Did Lara or trot even win on any of the judge's scorecards. Canelo is the best counterpuncher in boxing right now. He is a master boxer

that's what I don't understand. trout and lara are supposedly "master boxers" but canelo beat them both and he's not?....don't matter if it was close. he beat em. he also beat a master boxer in cotto. and he didn't bully him, he outboxed him. canelo is an elite level BOXER and there's really no question about it.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

that's what I don't understand. trout and lara are supposedly "master boxers" but canelo beat them both and he's not?....don't matter if it was close. he beat em. he also beat a master boxer in cotto. and he didn't bully him, he outboxed him. canelo is an elite level BOXER and there's really no question about it.

Nikkas either trolling or are blind j rock, andrade, and even my nikka lubin has l have done NOTHING to make me think they are more skilled than Lara or even in equal footing, yet we supposed to believe since they big, they would wash nelo

 

[LeVraiPapi]

when me and @LeVraiPapi were getting recruited by zoe pound we used to ride around stomping out AA's

yup. we used to have AA beating day. ANy AA would get it

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Boxing.means to hit without getting hit the only man to do that against canelo is the 5th best fightern of all time

I'll go as far as to say his footwork has improved but not at a master level. A rematch with Lara will show it.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

The UFC CAC contacted Freddie Roach today to train him for a Mayweather fight

Is this real life??

 

[#SOG_soldier]

I'll go as far as to say his footwork has improved but not at a master level. A rematch with Lara will show it.

Maybe Lara is a tough cookie for anyone at 154 or 160 and outside of 97g and Canelo Lara beats anyone at 154 or 160.

 

[patscorpio]

Maybe Lara is a tough cookie for anyone at 154 or 160 and outside of 97g and Canelo Lara beats anyone at 154 or 160.

the guy who has draws against king carlos (a clear L for lara) and vanes......the guy who went life and death with angulo...will be beat anyone at 154-160?

like i said lara rematching vanes will answer some questions about that

 

[Newzz]

@Newzz so I guess Curtis Stevens isn't Black since he's Panamanian

I guarantee you didn't even know he was Latino

I didnt know that.



But if he was here in Cleveland, he wouldn't identify as black


Basically you're either White, Black, or whatever Country you came here from in Cleveland. We don't call Africans "black" here....we call em Africans


"Black" is reserved for African Americans only here.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

the guy who has draws against king carlos (a clear L for lara) and vanes......the guy who went life and death with angulo...will be beat anyone at 154-160?

like i said lara rematching vanes will answer some questions about that

Exactly.

Hell, Gamboa looked better in the 1st 4 rounds against Crawford, than Lara looked against Molina and Vanes combined.

Dude's skilled, no doubt, but I just every time his name gets thrown up there with Floyd, Manny, Ward, Rigo, and etc....

 

[Newzz]

Most people don't know that. I only found out when I saw the Panama flag on his trunks.

Can't nobody tell me this dude ain't Black and @Newzz would be bullshytting if he said he wasn't

He'd be called "my Panamanian nikka Curtis"