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[malbaker86]

@Wise D'Angelo @malbaker86 any more questions as to why we are always when it comes to hearing GGG's name and the praise he's given? This article breaks it down perfectly and as we've been hollering for the past 3-4 years on here now

i'm the same with when it comes to GGG; I wanna see his team stop with the squash matches and put some wolves in front of him. Their logic is stupid; they want to unify 160 (which ok, no problem with that) yet they complain that there is nobody willing to fight....so why stick around then? If you can't secure a fight with BJS or Canelo, take a fight at 168 or 154 in the meantime. Knowing his team, we'll get a rematch with Mongoose this fall

 

[#SOG_soldier]

55/45 split in Swift's favor....and you got a fight




Danny "Swift" Garcia vs Adrien "The Problem" Broner




@ChocolateGiddyUp, @King P, @Skip b, @#SOG_soldier vs @Newzz, @LauderdaleBoss, @SkiHatDaGawd, @#SOG_soldier




#swiftset vs #AboutBillions

Let's make it happen




#AboutBillions.....hit our theme music:

:aboutbillions:

I don't know which side to pick. fukk it imma just wait until they fight and talk shyt no matter who wins.

 

[Newzz]

I don't know which side to pick. fukk it imma just wait until they fight and talk shyt no matter who wins.

 

[krackdagawd]

I'm A GGG fan but this is some real potent ether

I can't even defend dude though. After I realized it was GGG who said Wards name 1st, there's no backing him up anymore. Plus all the circles his team has been talking in

Still a fan, but GGG has nobody to blame but himself for the way he's being perceived

You're one of the few ggg stans who kept it real bout dude from the jump on here.

Basically what @Newzz said

The round robin Mayweather beating X boxer another lost too (or any boxer in general) so he wouldn't have to fight X opponent doesn't work. Cliche but styles makes fights. Stevie Johnston stylistically would've gave him problems. And he was a champion in the division yet Mayweather chose not to fight him. Same with the others mentioned. I'm not taking shots at you but Boxrec doesn't tell the story about the fighter & their skillset regardless of who they lost to.

The problem with he didn't fight xxxxx fighters is that nikkas don't exactly have all the time in the world especially after Oscar it takes time to build shyt on the level Floyd was fighting at $ wise so it's not like he could fight 6x a year n shyt. He fought everyone I wanted to see him fight in this era. To say he didn't fight a dude like Forbes is nitpicking imo nothing is a given in life but I see Floyd beating every single one of the guys dudes say he "ducked" aside from maybe the Punisher.

TRAINER DERRICK JAMES: "WE HAVE TO GET BEHIND AMERICAN FIGHTERS" || FIGHTHYPE.COM
By Percy Crawford | April 25, 2016

"We are so set on making foreigners stars in America that's it's ridiculous. If they brought me over to Russia to fight, I'm the opponent. If they brought me to Denmark to fight, I'm the opponent. If they take me to London to fight, I'm the opponent. South Africa, I'm the opponent. You come to America and they try to make you into a superstar over American fighters. Are you for real," stated world-class trainer Derrick James, who is none too pleased at the fact that it appears as though American fighters are having a difficult time getting the same type of backing as foreign athletes. Check out what else James had to say!

DERRICK JAMES ON AMERICAN FIGHTERS NOT GETTING SUPPORT:

If I go over to Germany to fight, I would be the opponent and looked at as the guy going over there to lose by their fans, the networks, and their media. And in the back of their minds, they would all be rooting against me to lose. But we as Americans, we accept the American fighters that we have, but we make Pacquiao a star. We trying to make Triple G a star and Kovalev a star and Tyson Fury a star. We're trying to make all of these foreigners into stars and we have American fighters right here in America that have phenomenal talent and phenomenal gifts, yet we look other places to validate foreign fighters over our own. In every other sport and every other aspect in American life, this doesn't exist, but why does it exist in boxing? (We know why)

We try to find somebody to be a star and, oh, just so happens he's not American. What is that about? You think about this, look how many Americans were rooting against Dominic Wade this past weekend, hoping Triple G would knock him out and keep his streak going. You look at a guy like Andre Ward, who was the last American to win a Gold Medal, meaning he is the last male fighter from your country to wear that USA on his chest and win the whole damn thing, yet, he is the most criticized fighter on the planet now that Floyd Mayweather is retired. What is that about? I really don't get it. Andre Ward is not the first nor last fighter who will be inactive due to promotional issues or injuries, but I look at how they talk about this American hero, this American star, as if he's some fly by night guy. This guy represented this country well and to this day, he represents the sport of boxing well and he is the most criticized fighters on the planet. So we have to get behind American fighters and continue to love America and try to make this country better and make boxing better and bring it back to where it was and I think that's what Al Haymon is doing, so just watch out for that.





So true....so true

You know what time it is breh we got Americans cheering a racist Russian over an Olympic Gold medalist breh

I don't want to bring wrestling into this but look at the reaction Jordan Burroughs gets in Russia or in the middle east cacs over here talk about his athleticism and "natural gifts" like the nikka just is luck to have some genetics that got him there and not bust his ass in the gym and make the sacrifices everyone else makes. Look at the reaction Floyd gets in Russia. I forget what fight it was but I was rewatching a SOG fight on youtube with British commentary and these dudes were like when does that happen with the hbo announce team? Showtime guys have always showed him love though

Not that it wouldn't be a good fight breh, but BATB is still BATB, unless he's facing Manny. And AB ain't Manny. Good fight though. When I feel better about Tim i'll get into some page long exchanges with you @Newzz were doing some rebounding rn though,.

Breh couldn't beat a struggle Bradley in Porter Bradley UDS him.

 

[Newzz]

Streets need that rematch...sounds like Team Loma is down for it if he decides to stay at Featherweight

 

[Newzz]

Breh couldn't beat a struggle Bradley in Porter Bradley UDS him.

Porter's rough housing, power, strength got to AB....Bradley doesn't fight in that fashion and his "power" wouldn't even cause AB to flinch



AB wins by scores of 115-113, 116-112, and 113-115

 

[Knicksman20]

The problem with he didn't fight xxxxx fighters is that nikkas don't exactly have all the time in the world especially after Oscar it takes time to build shyt on the level Floyd was fighting at $ wise so it's not like he could fight 6x a year n shyt. He fought everyone I wanted to see him fight in this era. To say he didn't fight a dude like Forbes is nitpicking imo nothing is a given in life but I see Floyd beating every single one of the guys dudes say he "ducked" aside from maybe the Punisher.

Nah Krack, we're talking pre Fishnets. We're talking Mayweather on his come up while he was still "enslaved" to Arum between Jr Lightweight & Jr Welter mostly. There were many fights he could've made but chose a different route. Most of these guys we're mentioning were champs within the division where the fights could've been made more than likely.

***Edit*** After JLC I believe Mayweather kinda went on cruise control with his matchups. But even @Newzz mentioned at Jr lightweight he fought Jesus Chavez & Famoso Hernandez when he had Casamayor, Freitas, & Steve Forbes in the division.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I feel where he coming from. I'm a fan of both and usually defend both when the haters start going in, but it's still

#AboutBillions forever

 

[krackdagawd]

Nah Krack, we're talking pre Fishnets. We're talking Mayweather on his come up while he was still "enslaved" to Arum between Jr Lightweight & Jr Welter mostly. There were many fights he could've made but chose a different route. Most of these guys we're mentioning were champs within the division where the fights could've been made more than likely.

The problem with "enslaved" Floyd is he exactly didn't have the freedom to pick n chose opponents like he had post Oscar either. And i dont want to get started on that demonic jew

I wasn't following n talking about the "business side" of boxing back then like I do know though I was a youngin back then. So ya would know more than I do in why x fighter was chosen over y in that era.

 

[Knicksman20]

The problem with "enslaved" Floyd is he exactly didn't have the freedom to pick n chose opponents like he had post Oscar either. And i dont want to get started on that demonic jew

I wasn't following n talking about the "business side" of boxing back then like I do know though I was a youngin back then. So ya would know more than I do in why x fighter was chosen over y in that era.

I feel you on that. But remember what @Newzz mentioned at Jr lightweight in one of his previous posts where he fought Jesus Chavez & Famoso Hernandez when he had Casamayor, Freitas, & Steve Forbes in the division. Casamayor & Freitas ended up fighting each other & Floyd could've fought one of them at least to claim the division

 

[Newzz]

Im not saying Floyd "ducked" any of the guys I mentioned from 130-147. He did "miss" them and fought lesser competition in some cases instead.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Basically what @Newzz said

The round robin Mayweather beating X boxer another lost too (or any boxer in general) so he wouldn't have to fight X opponent doesn't work. Cliche but styles makes fights. Stevie Johnston stylistically would've gave him problems. And he was a champion in the division yet Mayweather chose not to fight him. Same with the others mentioned. I'm not taking shots at you but Boxrec doesn't tell the story about the fighter & their skillset regardless of who they lost to.

it takes two to make a fight
i recall floyd calling out stevie johnson, kosta tyzu and others
it didn't happen and ofcourse its all floyd's fault just like the mainstream can't blaming him for the pacquaio fight lol

yall need to stop looking in terms of how floyd is today
back then, ppl were in no hurry to fight him because he was it high risk low reward
and he didn't have the negoitating power he has now. he let himself be fukked by the de la hoya's of the world cause he saw the bigger picture but some of these other dudes bid themselves out cause they really didn't want to fight him


he was one of the most ducked fighters during that time period
he woulda fought anyone if it helped increased his star power
saying he "ducked"or avoided black fighters is foolish
he just wanted to fight big names
and you can not fight everyone

first it was floyd can't handle pressure fighters
floyd can't fight south paws
now floyd ducks black fighters... lol not one single person was saying that back then
easy to re write history

if floyd woulda fought those black fighters it woulda been "well floyd didn't fight that guy"
it never ends cause people can't come to grips with how great he is

same thing woulda happened to ward if he didn't take so many breaks
watch the excuses that come if he retires undefeated

" well he didnt fight GGG"

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

@Wise D'Angelo @malbaker86 any more questions as to why we are always when it comes to hearing GGG's name and the praise he's given? This article breaks it down perfectly and as we've been hollering for the past 3-4 years on here now

Yea I think that Wade fight got alot of people questioning him and his team because it was a gross mismatch. It seem like that"big drama show" shyt about to run out of steam fighting scrubs . Canelo is not going to fight him anytime soon and afterwhile it's going to be a hard sell for HBO to push him against c-level fighters. But he can move up and still be successfull and quiet all the haters. It ain't like 168 full of killers anyway. He will just be beating up or knocking out bigger guys . He should've grabbed that title off of Abraham. Thats what they should've had him do matter fact.

 

[Knicksman20]

it takes two to make a fight
i recall floyd calling out stevie johnson, kosta tyzu and others
it didn't happen and ofcourse its all floyd's fault just like the mainstream can't blaming him for the pacquaio fight lol

yall need to stop looking in terms of how floyd is today
back then, ppl were in no hurry to fight him because he was it high risk low reward
and he didn't have the negoitating power he has now. he let himself be fukked by the de la hoya's of the world cause he saw the bigger picture but some of these other dudes bid themselves out cause they really didn't want to fight him


he was one of the most ducked fighters during that time period
he woulda fought anyone if it helped increased his star power
saying he "ducked"or avoided black fighters is foolish
he just wanted to fight big names
and you can not fight everyone

first it was floyd can't handle pressure fighters
floyd can't fight south paws
now floyd ducks black fighters... lol not one single person was saying that back then
easy to re write history

if floyd woulda fought those black fighters it woulda been "well floyd didn't fight that guy"
it never ends cause people can't come to grips with how great he is

same thing woulda happened to ward if he didn't take so many breaks
watch the excuses that come if he retires undefeated

" well he didnt fight GGG"

Fam that's not how I remember some of this. I understand missing on some opponents but he was missing a lot of them at the lower weights. I'm not saying he's ducking any of them either but there were fights to be made that didn't happen & he ended choosing someone else. Calling someone out & actually making the fight are two different things bruh. I don't remember anyone from Top Rank or Floyd trying to make a fight with Tsyzu. I know he tried to make a Cotto fight but Arum stopped that from happening because "Cotto wasn't ready". I'm going off of memory but I remember Floyd fighting Chop Chop, Bruseles, & Gatti at 140. Like I said after JLC at 35 Floyd went on cruise control for a few years.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Fam that's not how I remember some of this. I understand missing on some opponents but he was missing a lot of them at the lower weights. I'm not saying he's ducking any of them either but there were fights to be made that didn't happen & he ended choosing someone else. Calling someone out & actually making the fight are two different things bruh. I don't remember anyone from Top Rank or Floyd trying to make a fight with Tsyzu. I know he tried to make a Cotto fight but Arum stopped that from happening because "Cotto wasn't ready". I'm going off of memory but I remember Floyd fighting Chop Chop, Bruseles, & Gatti at 140. Like I said after JLC at 35 Floyd went on cruise control for a few years.

floyd said he tried to make the fight with kosta several times but tsyu was being difficult and acting like he didn't wanna fight
your not gonna believe him so i don't no why i bother

i don't think floyd was "picking and choosing" like that until after the de laa hoya fight
and picking and choosing should not be confused with ducking