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[Knicksman20]

Not gonna get into May vs Norris debate but what breh did he duck on his come up?

Beat Judah, beat Mosley after he destroyed Margarito and he bodied Diego, Ndou and Mitchell

Stevie Johnston & Joel Casamayor are two right off the bat that he didn't fight at the lower weights

 

[Newzz]

#AxeGang Walter's freedom papers were on the way

And he was set to be free of his chains in early May

But he's been recently hit with some litigation

So lettuce come together and pray the devil doesn't take some of his years away




Not gonna get into May vs Norris debate but what breh did he duck on his come up?

Beat Judah, beat Mosley after he destroyed Margarito and he bodied Diego, Ndou and Mitchell

Not gonna say he ducked, but he did miss these black fighters that were ranked in the Top 10 of the division when Floyd fought there:

He couldve fought IBF Champion Stevie Forbes while he was at 130 instead of Carlos Hernandez.

He couldve fought Stevie Johnston at 135 instead of Sosa, & WBA Champion Vivian Harris or Junior Witter (who actually won a title eliminator to become the mandatory for the winner of Floyd/Gatti) at 140 instead of Bruseles.

He couldve fought Cory Spinks, Paul Williams, Joshua Clottey, Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, Shawn Porter, Keith Thurman, or Kell Brook at 147.

He couldve fought Vernon Forrest, Verno Phillips, James Kirkland, Austin Trout, K-9, or Demetrius Andrade at 154.


^^^Once again, every black fighter I just named were ranked amongst the RING Top 10 in the division (at one point or another) at the same time Floyd was in the division.

 

[Knicksman20]

Not gonna say he ducked, but he did miss these black fighters that were ranked in the Top 10 of the division when Floyd fought there:

He couldve fought IBF Champion Stevie Forbes while he was at 130 instead of Carlos Hernandez.

He couldve fought Stevie Johnston at 135 instead of Sosa, & WBA Champion Vivian Harris or Junior Witter (who actually won a title eliminator to become the mandatory for the winner of Floyd/Gatti) at 140 instead of Bruseles.

He couldve fought Cory Spinks, Paul Williams, Joshua Clottey, Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, Shawn Porter, Keith Thurman, or Kell Brook at 147.

He couldve fought Vernon Forrest, Verno Phillips, James Kirkland, Austin Trout, K-9, or Demetrius Andrade at 154.


^^^Once again, every black fighter I just named were ranked amongst the RING Top 10 in the division (at one point or another) at the same time Floyd was in the division.

He even missed out on Kostya Tszyu pre Hatton which would've been a good fight. After JLC I think Mayweather went on cruise control for a few years.

 

[yawn]

Not gonna say he ducked, but he did miss these black fighters that were ranked in the Top 10 of the division when Floyd fought there:

I'm not well versed in rankings back then but would any of those you mentioned
Be viewed as a bigger threat than the people he did fight?
Did any of those you mentioned beat anyone that Floyd beat?

Also can you explain why you listed Paul Williams

Stevie Johnston & Joel Casamayor are two right off the bat that he didn't fight at the lower weights

Same question, would either of those 2 be viewed as a bigger threat that who Floyd fought

Quick look over and I can see Floyd fought and beat people who both of em lost too

 

[Black_Jesus]

alright you wanted a break down so i'ma give it to you. I can only speak for myself. I don't hate Little g, I just call him what he is. a duckin ass hypocrite. I think everybody here knows that little 'g' is a really good fighter with good power, but at the end of the day he's gotten his rep beating sub par opponents. but that's not even why people shyt on him. it's because when dude first started his "reign of terror", he clearly stated he would face ANYBODY from 154 to 168. that was his mantra from the start...."154 to 168....ANYBODY can get it"......he stayed calling out floyd mayweather and pacquiao for 154. he stayed calling out froch and chavez jr for 168. but then ward stepped up the plate and he was .......after constantly ducking the fade from SOG, dude finally pumped his chest out and said he'll only fight him at 164 and 50-50 split. andre accepted the demands, sent his offer to Little G, and by his words, they turned it down in 5 minutes. Loeffler comes back saying they can't accept the fight anymore because if the lemieux ppv did well, ward would no longer be worthy of a 50-50 split. as we already know, his ppv bombed, which is why he's right back on hbo chasing canelo like a groupie bytch tryin to get knocked up. now he's mad cause canelo is doing the SAME exact shyt he did to ward. telling him to come down in weight...considering other fights for bigger money. only difference is that canelo is actually facing BIG name guys, but when 97G ducked ward he was fighting the likes of willie monroe jr and daniel geale....so it just makes it blatantly obvious he didn't duck ward because ward didn't bring any fans, he ducked him cause he knew ward would tap that ass and put an end to his hypetrain. his "boogeyman" aura would be done with and HBO would drop his ass quicker than they did kelly pavlik.


golovkin stans say "b b but canelo is the middlweight champion".....yea, cause golovkin only started calling out canelo when he got the middleweight belt right.....and i'm sure if canelo drops the belt after khan, golovkin would stop chasing him around like a gold diggin ho. do you really believe golovkin wants canelo for his middlweight belt or for that payday?.....be real with yourself.....floyd took risks before getting oscar. canelo took risks before figthing floyd. more importantly, they both SACRIFICED for those opportunities. and at those times, both of em sold well over 97G on their ppv's. so Little g has no right to demand shyt right now. lets keep it all the way 100....golovkin stans shyttin on khan but golovkin has never taken a risk on the level of khan fighting maidana, garcia, or canelo. as far as i'm concerned khan's heart>>>>>>golovkin's. the guy hasn't taken one real risk his entire career, has absolutely no ppv drawing power, but still thinks he got some pull.....fukk outta here





lets go back over the sequence of events....



Little g: I'll fight anybody 154-168


Ward: I'll fight you

Little G: you don't have any fans. i'm a businessman



Little G: *fights mega superstars willie monroe jr and and martin murray"


Ward:


Little g: okay okay.....164...50-50


Ward: Done


Little g: .....Canelo, where you at playboy?


Canelo: 155 or nothing:CaneLOL:


Little g: why are you acting like a businessman??


Canelo: shut up fakkit

Little g: okay, what about you floyd?


Floyd: beat andre ward and you got it

:FloydLOL:

 

[Black_Jesus]

DP

 

[yawn]

@Newzz Mickey Bey vs Barthelemy this summer

You thinking of taking the fam to Disneyworld this Summer

Wassup with all the GGG hate around here???

Ain't no hate, we just don't stand for bullshyte round here

I'm just disappointed in him, so I rarely speak bout him

#SOGGang stay on him cause he called out Ward and then tucked tail

He even got childhood friends begging him to stop the hoe shyt

 

[Newzz]

I'm not well versed in rankings back then but would any of those you mentioned
Be viewed as a bigger threat than the people he did fight?

Breh...Stevie Forbes > Carlos Hernandez at 130, Stevie Johnston > Victoriano Sosa at 135, and both Vivian Harris & Junior Witter > Henry Bruseles at 140

Also can you explain why you listed Paul Williams

?

Paul Williams was ranked #2 by RING Magazine and was a Welterweight Champion calling out Floyd. Floyd didn't fight him.

 

[Newzz]

@Newzz Mickey Bey vs Barthelemy this summer

You thinking of taking the fam to Disneyworld this Summer



Ain't no hate, we just don't stand for bullshyte round here

I'm just disappointed in him, so I rarely speak bout him

#SOGGang stay on him cause he called out Ward and then tucked tail

He even got childhood friends begging him to stop the hoe shyt

Mickey Bey about to get his belt back








And then it's gonna be Robert Easter Jr vs Mickey Bey eventually being that Easter is currently ranked #4 by the IBF behind Richard Comney at #3 with no #1 or #2 contenders


Ohio vs Ohio

Cleveland vs Toledo













#AboutBillions vs #TMT again

 

[krackdagawd]

@Newzz Mickey Bey vs Barthelemy this summer

You thinking of taking the fam to Disneyworld this Summer



Ain't no hate, we just don't stand for bullshyte round here

I'm just disappointed in him, so I rarely speak bout him

#SOGGang stay on him cause he called out Ward and then tucked tail

He even got childhood friends begging him to stop the hoe shyt

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

I thought he looked good against a guy that wasn't coming to just pick up a check. He got caught with some good shots, but was still able to dominate dude outside of maybe 2 or 3 rounds.

and #GGGoodboys did what was expected against Wade.

nothing special happened that night except for Roman hitting dude so hard that his shoe fell apart and the sole separated.

Exactly what I thought breh. Arroyo looked good because he stood up and fought and never looked intimidated the whole fight. He pushed a great fighter and that is what you want from an opponent.

Personally I think that mixed with HBO's stanning (and the fact Roman gets billed as PFP #1, which I disagree with) turned people off and they gave Arroyo too much credit. I had Chocolatito winning 9 or 10 rounds. To me it wasn't a close fight to score. Arroyo put up a valiant effort, but it was always not as good as the work Chocolatito did. Sure my scorecard was wide and I agreed with Max's analysis of Arroyo was good, but Roman was just better. Sometimes the scores don't show how well a fighter did. I gave Roman most the rounds because I thought he won them and Arroyo deserves credit for making it a good fight and tough test.

Edit:
Didn't do a lot of digging, but saw that ESPN had it 12-0, Badlefthook had it 11-1, and RingTV had it 9-3, all for Chocolatito.

 

[krackdagawd]

alright you wanted a break down so i'ma give it to you. I can only speak for myself. I don't hate Little g, I just call him what he is. a duckin ass hypocrite. I think everybody here knows that little 'g' is a really good fighter with good power, but at the end of the day he's gotten his rep beating sub par opponents. but that's not even why people shyt on him. it's because when dude first started his "reign of terror", he clearly stated he would face ANYBODY from 154 to 168. that was his mantra from the start...."154 to 168....ANYBODY can get it"......he stayed calling out floyd mayweather and pacquiao for 154. he stayed calling out froch and chavez jr for 168. but then ward stepped up the plate and he was .......after constantly ducking the fade from SOG, dude finally pumped his chest out and said he'll only fight him at 164 and 50-50 split. andre accepted the demands, sent his offer to Little G, and by his words, they turned it down in 5 minutes. Loeffler comes back saying they can't accept the fight anymore because if the lemieux ppv did well, ward would no longer be worthy of a 50-50 split. as we already know, his ppv bombed, which is why he's right back on hbo chasing canelo like a groupie bytch tryin to get knocked up. now he's mad cause canelo is doing the SAME exact shyt he did to ward. telling him to come down in weight...considering other fights for bigger money. only difference is that canelo is actually facing BIG name guys, but when 97G ducked ward he was fighting the likes of willie monroe jr and daniel geale....so it just makes it blatantly obvious he didn't duck ward because ward didn't bring any fans, he ducked him cause he knew ward would tap that ass and put an end to his hypetrain. his "boogeyman" aura would be done with and HBO would drop his ass quicker than they did kelly pavlik.


golovkin stans say "b b but canelo is the middlweight champion".....yea, cause golovkin only started calling out canelo when he got the middleweight belt right.....and i'm sure if canelo drops the belt after khan, golovkin would stop chasing him around like a gold diggin ho. do you really believe golovkin wants canelo for his middlweight belt or for that payday?.....be real with yourself.....floyd took risks before getting oscar. canelo took risks before figthing floyd. more importantly, they both SACRIFICED for those opportunities. and at those times, both of em sold well over 97G on their ppv's. so Little g has no right to demand shyt right now. lets keep it all the way 100....golovkin stans shyttin on khan but golovkin has never taken a risk on the level of khan fighting maidana, garcia, or canelo. as far as i'm concerned khan's heart>>>>>>golovkin's. the guy hasn't taken one real risk his entire career, has absolutely no ppv drawing power, but still thinks he got some pull.....fukk outta here





lets go back over the sequence of events....



Little g: I'll fight anybody 154-168


Ward: I'll fight you

Little G: you don't have any fans. i'm a businessman



Little G: *fights mega superstars willie monroe jr and and martin murray"


Ward:


Little g: okay okay.....164...50-50


Ward: Done


Little g: .....Canelo, where you at playboy?


Canelo: 155 or nothing:CaneLOL:


Little g: why are you acting like a businessman??


Canelo: shut up fakkit

Little g: okay, what about you floyd?


Floyd: beat andre ward and you got it

:FloydLOL:

 

[King P]

alright you wanted a break down so i'ma give it to you. I can only speak for myself. I don't hate Little g, I just call him what he is. a duckin ass hypocrite. I think everybody here knows that little 'g' is a really good fighter with good power, but at the end of the day he's gotten his rep beating sub par opponents. but that's not even why people shyt on him. it's because when dude first started his "reign of terror", he clearly stated he would face ANYBODY from 154 to 168. that was his mantra from the start...."154 to 168....ANYBODY can get it"......he stayed calling out floyd mayweather and pacquiao for 154. he stayed calling out froch and chavez jr for 168. but then ward stepped up the plate and he was .......after constantly ducking the fade from SOG, dude finally pumped his chest out and said he'll only fight him at 164 and 50-50 split. andre accepted the demands, sent his offer to Little G, and by his words, they turned it down in 5 minutes. Loeffler comes back saying they can't accept the fight anymore because if the lemieux ppv did well, ward would no longer be worthy of a 50-50 split. as we already know, his ppv bombed, which is why he's right back on hbo chasing canelo like a groupie bytch tryin to get knocked up. now he's mad cause canelo is doing the SAME exact shyt he did to ward. telling him to come down in weight...considering other fights for bigger money. only difference is that canelo is actually facing BIG name guys, but when 97G ducked ward he was fighting the likes of willie monroe jr and daniel geale....so it just makes it blatantly obvious he didn't duck ward because ward didn't bring any fans, he ducked him cause he knew ward would tap that ass and put an end to his hypetrain. his "boogeyman" aura would be done with and HBO would drop his ass quicker than they did kelly pavlik.


golovkin stans say "b b but canelo is the middlweight champion".....yea, cause golovkin only started calling out canelo when he got the middleweight belt right.....and i'm sure if canelo drops the belt after khan, golovkin would stop chasing him around like a gold diggin ho. do you really believe golovkin wants canelo for his middlweight belt or for that payday?.....be real with yourself.....floyd took risks before getting oscar. canelo took risks before figthing floyd. more importantly, they both SACRIFICED for those opportunities. and at those times, both of em sold well over 97G on their ppv's. so Little g has no right to demand shyt right now. lets keep it all the way 100....golovkin stans shyttin on khan but golovkin has never taken a risk on the level of khan fighting maidana, garcia, or canelo. as far as i'm concerned khan's heart>>>>>>golovkin's. the guy hasn't taken one real risk his entire career, has absolutely no ppv drawing power, but still thinks he got some pull.....fukk outta here





lets go back over the sequence of events....



Little g: I'll fight anybody 154-168


Ward: I'll fight you

Little G: you don't have any fans. i'm a businessman



Little G: *fights mega superstars willie monroe jr and and martin murray"


Ward:


Little g: okay okay.....164...50-50


Ward: Done


Little g: .....Canelo, where you at playboy?


Canelo: 155 or nothing:CaneLOL:


Little g: why are you acting like a businessman??


Canelo: shut up fakkit

Little g: okay, what about you floyd?


Floyd: beat andre ward and you got it

:FloydLOL:

I'm A GGG fan but this is some real potent ether

I can't even defend dude though. After I realized it was GGG who said Wards name 1st, there's no backing him up anymore. Plus all the circles his team has been talking in

Still a fan, but GGG has nobody to blame but himself for the way he's being perceived

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

alright you wanted a break down so i'ma give it to you. I can only speak for myself. I don't hate Little g, I just call him what he is. a duckin ass hypocrite. I think everybody here knows that little 'g' is a really good fighter with good power, but at the end of the day he's gotten his rep beating sub par opponents. but that's not even why people shyt on him. it's because when dude first started his "reign of terror", he clearly stated he would face ANYBODY from 154 to 168. that was his mantra from the start...."154 to 168....ANYBODY can get it"......he stayed calling out floyd mayweather and pacquiao for 154. he stayed calling out froch and chavez jr for 168. but then ward stepped up the plate and he was .......after constantly ducking the fade from SOG, dude finally pumped his chest out and said he'll only fight him at 164 and 50-50 split. andre accepted the demands, sent his offer to Little G, and by his words, they turned it down in 5 minutes. Loeffler comes back saying they can't accept the fight anymore because if the lemieux ppv did well, ward would no longer be worthy of a 50-50 split. as we already know, his ppv bombed, which is why he's right back on hbo chasing canelo like a groupie bytch tryin to get knocked up. now he's mad cause canelo is doing the SAME exact shyt he did to ward. telling him to come down in weight...considering other fights for bigger money. only difference is that canelo is actually facing BIG name guys, but when 97G ducked ward he was fighting the likes of willie monroe jr and daniel geale....so it just makes it blatantly obvious he didn't duck ward because ward didn't bring any fans, he ducked him cause he knew ward would tap that ass and put an end to his hypetrain. his "boogeyman" aura would be done with and HBO would drop his ass quicker than they did kelly pavlik.


golovkin stans say "b b but canelo is the middlweight champion".....yea, cause golovkin only started calling out canelo when he got the middleweight belt right.....and i'm sure if canelo drops the belt after khan, golovkin would stop chasing him around like a gold diggin ho. do you really believe golovkin wants canelo for his middlweight belt or for that payday?.....be real with yourself.....floyd took risks before getting oscar. canelo took risks before figthing floyd. more importantly, they both SACRIFICED for those opportunities. and at those times, both of em sold well over 97G on their ppv's. so Little g has no right to demand shyt right now. lets keep it all the way 100....golovkin stans shyttin on khan but golovkin has never taken a risk on the level of khan fighting maidana, garcia, or canelo. as far as i'm concerned khan's heart>>>>>>golovkin's. the guy hasn't taken one real risk his entire career, has absolutely no ppv drawing power, but still thinks he got some pull.....fukk outta here





lets go back over the sequence of events....



Little g: I'll fight anybody 154-168


Ward: I'll fight you

Little G: you don't have any fans. i'm a businessman



Little G: *fights mega superstars willie monroe jr and and martin murray"


Ward:


Little g: okay okay.....164...50-50


Ward: Done


Little g: .....Canelo, where you at playboy?


Canelo: 155 or nothing:CaneLOL:


Little g: why are you acting like a businessman??


Canelo: shut up fakkit

Little g: okay, what about you floyd?


Floyd: beat andre ward and you got it

:FloydLOL:

Preciate the breakdown
















But you didn't have to unload the whole clip

 

[Black_Jesus]

I'm A GGG fan but this is some real potent ether

I can't even defend dude though. After I realized it was GGG who said Wards name 1st, there's no backing him up anymore. Plus all the circles his team has been talking in

Still a fan, but GGG has nobody to blame but himself for the way he's being perceived

Man I feel you, I slick used to stan ggg a little bit awhile back, but then I never could get passed and refused to overlook the fact that he tried to drain SOG while at the same time calling out several opponents at 168.. that was some straight bytch shyt by him and his team