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This all I've been saying...but GGG stans thinks it's cool for him to stay at a weight where there aren't any challenges instead of moving up and challenging himself lIke EVERY other great fighter of the last 25 years has done:manny:

to say this you would be discrediting the career of one of those great fighters breh..bernard hopkins...who accomplished what GGG is trying to do..i always bring bhop up in this and no one can tell me what was different from what he did to what GGG is doing...to do that you'd have to know what bhop's MW competition was like in the 90s
 

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to say this you would be discrediting the career of one of those great fighters breh..bernard hopkins...who accomplished what GGG is trying to do..i always bring bhop up in this and no one can tell me what was different from what he did to what GGG is doing...to do that you'd have to know what bhop's MW competition was like in the 90s
You said this but B hop was criticized for not moving up. And accused of fighting smaller fighters.

But GGG is being praised. You don't see the problem here?
 

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to say this you would be discrediting the career of one of those great fighters breh..bernard hopkins...who accomplished what GGG is trying to do..i always bring bhop up in this and no one can tell me what was different from what he did to what GGG is doing...to do that you'd have to know what bhop's MW competition was like in the 90s

You've said this before and I responded with exactly I'm about to say again now:


Hopkins fought 31 career fights at Middleweight, fought Roy Jones Jr/Oscar De La Hoya/Tito Trinidad, and moved up...Golovkin is already at 35 career fights at Middleweight (4 more than B-Hop fought), fought Daniel Geale/Martin Murray/David Lemieux, and has no plans of moving up anytime soon.


There's no comparison. Plus they was on Hop's ass for fighting at Middleweight while yall cool with GGG fighting subpar comp over & over again.

GGG's best win, David Lemieux, wouldn't even be a Top 5 opponent of Hopkins at Middleweight by the way.
 

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You said this but B hop was criticized for not moving up. And accused of fighting smaller fighters.

But GGG is being praised. You don't see the problem here?

and thats a sound argument as well because its true..but then 168 wasnt poppin like that which leaves 175...well 175 was roy and the rest unless he wanted to go after darius overseas lol

You've said this before and I responded with exactly I'm about to say again now:


Hopkins fought 31 career fights at Middleweight, fought Roy Jones Jr/Oscar De La Hoya/Tito Trinidad, and moved up...Golovkin is already at 35 career fights at Middleweight (4 more than B-Hop fought), fought Daniel Geale/Martin Murray/David Lemieux, and has no plans of moving up anytime soon.


There's no comparison. Plus they was on Hop's ass for fighting at Middleweight while yall cool with GGG fighting subpar comp over & over again.

GGG's best win, David Lemieux, wouldn't even be a Top 5 opponent of Hopkins at Middleweight by the way.

but part of bhop's greatness was that he cleared out MW..he cleared out that division, lost and couldnt get the belts off jermain..and moved up...no partial shyt and that was fine...if GGG did that and stayed where there no competition then I would give him the side eye...and bhop attempted to do it at 175 at an advanced age..if you were a champion he wanted to fight...im all about unification..take the belts off these nikkas..tito was part of that 4 man tournament put together by don king..it wasn't like tito was going to face bhop off good faith lol..if it was id really think highly of tito..he faced roy for a vacated belt..not because either one wanted to face each other..oscar was food at MW and had no business being there..thats why it was pretty much his easiest title win there...but he took the belt nonetheless
 

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to say this you would be discrediting the career of one of those great fighters breh..bernard hopkins...who accomplished what GGG is trying to do..i always bring bhop up in this and no one can tell me what was different from what he did to what GGG is doing...to do that you'd have to know what bhop's MW competition was like in the 90s

To Hopkins credit I believe Antwun Echols & Keith Holmes are better wins than anyone GGG has faced till this point bruh.
 

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and thats a sound argument as well because its true..but then 168 wasnt poppin like that which leaves 175...well 175 was roy and the rest unless he wanted to go after darius overseas lol



but part of bhop's greatness was that he cleared out MW..he cleared out that division, lost and couldnt get the belts off jermain..and moved up...no partial shyt and that was fine...if GGG did that and stayed where there no competition then I would give him the side eye...and bhop attempted to do it at 175 at an advanced age..if you were a champion he wanted to fight...im all about unification..take the belts off these nikkas..tito was part of that 4 man tournament put together by don king..it wasn't like tito was going to face bhop off good faith lol..if it was id really think highly of tito..he faced roy for a vacated belt..not because either one wanted to face each other..oscar was food at MW and had no business being there..thats why it was pretty much his easiest title win there...but he took the belt nonetheless

Why not unify 168 instead?


168 has better opponents there for him than 160 does. Why not move up 1 division and unify a tougher division?:manny:
 

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Who do you think is better on GGG's resume than Echols :pachaha: I hope it's not Lemieux
i like echols but that dude fell apart..he didn't beat anyone at MW..he just gave Bhop a couple of tough fights loaded with fukkery lol..thats all he did at that weight
 

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i like echols but that dude fell apart..he didn't beat anyone at MW..he just gave Bhop a couple of tough fights loaded with fukkery lol..thats all he did at that weight

I can understand that but to me I think he could beat any of the fighters GGG has fought to date.

He'd definitely knock Lemieux back to Canada in spectacular fashion :lolbron:
 
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