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USADA been coming to our to your house for years huh :sas1:

Did they come in the months leading up to this fight tho :jbhmm:


How does a man in his 20s get gyno out of nowhere:jbhmm:

A guy who stays in shape year round:jbhmm:

He aint fooling me fam Spence is dirty.


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There truly wasn't any testing done though, so I cant argue:manny:
 

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Errol Spence’s trainer talks Spence-Mayweather, @krackdagawd's PED chatter
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April 20, 2016


The trainer thought beforehand the reaction that occurred after Errol Spence did a smash-and-grab on Chris Algieri Saturday night in Brooklyn would happen.

“I thought going in, this is where America falls in love with Spence,” said Derrick James a couple days after the kid’s decapatative hook scrambled the Long Islander’s senses, forced a stop at Barclays Center and snagged massive attention from a star-starved boxing fandom.

“I heard people say before that Algieri would win. But Errol is what America is … we are the best, we want to continue to be the best. And calling out the best is the basis of America. He wants to be THE MAN.”

You get the sense James, like Spence a Texan, is still a mild bit salty at the lead-up to the fight. Algieri said he was going to “expose” Spence … but what was exposed, James said, is the true potential of his guy.

Speaking of true potential … and circling back to “calling out the best” …

The best boxer on the planet is as of now retired. Floyd Mayweather could still beat any and all at 147 without a single day of training camp, it could be argued. But the 26-year-old Spence leap-frogged some other candidates for “maybe” foes if and when Mayweather un-retires. I asked James, could we, would we see Mayweather vs. Spence? The wizened lion versus the guy who some see as an heir to “Money”?

“It will never happen,” James told me. “It doesn’t make sense. Floyd is retired.”
Also, the 20-0 Spence has opened eyes, but still has work to do. Like grabbing titles and taking down folks higher on the ladder at 147.

But … but … didn’t I hear that Spence knocked down Floyd when they sparred before Money fought lefty Robert Guerrero? “He never knocked Floyd down,” the trainer, at 44 now firmly ensconced in that cluster of tutors who seek to continue their way into that den of exalted vets, with the Freddie Roaches and such. “They had great sparring. And Floyd has NOTHING to prove.”

We talked more about the win over Algieri and how James was happy the New Yorker tried to work inside. I was curious, does this win mean Spence is right now to be considered BETTER than Amir Khan, who was neck-and-neck with Algieri when they battled last year. Nossir, said James, basically offering a version of the “styles make fights” explanation. His answer, though, had more to do with the strength of Spence. He’s a TRUE 147, not like so many of the crew clustered at the upper tier here. Khan was coming up, Algieri was coming up. Garcia just came up, etc. Spence fought at 152 at the 2012 Olympics and belongs here, now.

James didn’t give his guy an A-plus. Maybe if Algieri had been better, he told me … How so? Because, James stated, Spence could have been more defensively aware. He walked through Algieri’s shots without proper respect. “He steamrolled him.” Message: Not all foes will be able to be steamrolled.

And with that sort of showing comes chops busting. Boo birds, the Twitterati speaking with the bravery that comes from being out of range and the clarity that comes from never having tried to climb a hill, let alone a mountain, they spoke up. I was poked by a Tweeter who asked me to look at Spence’s breasts. Gynecomastia, the amateur physician told me, could indicate PED usage. A world class boxer even Tweeted out a Spence boobs crack the other day …

“I saw that,” James told me. “Spence won’t even take vitamins! USADA has been coming to his house for years. He was No. 1 as an amateur for four years. He couldn’t go anywhere without telling them where he was going. I promise you, he doesn’t do any of that stuff! I know, I do his strength and conditioning.”



:deadmanny:dead at ptting krack in the title.....first krakubox, now krackusada.:russ::wow:
 

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Peterson doesn't possess any power to say Spence has passed the "good chin" test though. We know Prov will get destroyed, but he'll keep coming forward and bringing pressure and power punching all night long. Any of the 3, Prov/Molina Jr/Chaves all have top notch power (how can we forget how prov did Bradley?) and Im sure any of those 3 would be willing to step in between the ropes with him.

PED can fight on the inside tho N maybe back up Spence make it a rough fight, we can see if Spence can go late into the rds

Plus in the Boxing world Peterson is respected N would Make Spence's resume mean ALOT more then Chaves Prov Molina

PED would weigh damn near 170 too

Again this is assuming he's got that dr note...The Matthysse Peterson shows up N its man down
 

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nah breh that was a victory lap if i ever saw one...he wanted to show everyone how well conditioned and in shape he was for that fight :dame:



Lets talk about how my boy Granados used your boy Amirs head like a teeball.
 

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Bob Arum: Pacquiao-Bradley III lost money, had 'terrible' PPV numbers
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If welterweight Manny Pacquiao's unanimous decision victory against Timothy Bradley Jr. in their third fight was indeed the last of his career, as Pacquiao said it was, he went out with a whimper, at least commercially.

Pacquiao-Bradley III, which took place April 9 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, generated between 400,000 and 500,000 HBO PPV buys, a very disappointing result, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum said Wednesday.

"It will be somewhere between those numbers, 400,000 and 500,000. It's all being added up, but it will be closer to 400,000 than 500,000. Terrible," Arum said.

Some in the industry believe Arum is being optimistic, and that when everything is counted, the fight might not even reach 400,000.


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The third fight between Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley Jr. generated between 400,000 and 500,000 HBO PPV buys, a very disappointing result, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum said Wednesday. AP Photo/Isaac Brekken


Either way, Arum said the fight, for which the main event alone cost $24 million ($20 million to Pacquiao and $4 million to Bradley), lost money.

"Yes, it loses money," Arum said. "It was not one our big successes. It happens. We're big boys. Do I feel good about it? No."


Pacquiao, boxing's only eight-division titleholder and the icon of the Philippines, had already faced Bradley twice in fights virtually everybody thought Pacquiao won easily, although Bradley received a split decision win in their hugely controversial first fight in 2012. Pacquiao won the 2014 rematch in similarly dominant fashion and nobody was asking for a third fight, which Pacquiao also won handily.

However, Arum said the poor numbers were not a matter of the public being tired of the matchup. Rather, he said it was more a combination of two other elements -- the overwhelmingly negative public reaction to Pacquiao's recent anti-gay comments, in which he said that homosexuals are "worse than animals," and because of a hangover from last May's Floyd Mayweather-Pacquiao megafight, which cost $100 and delivered so little that many fans are still upset about it.

"Certainly the pushback from Manny's gay remarks killed us," Arum said. "It hurt us a lot. But I think it was also less a reaction to the match than a reaction to the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. It was a reaction like Mayweather got. Mayweather also got punished [by consumers]."


When Mayweather defeated Andre Berto in September in his retirement fight, his first since the Pacquiao bout, it also did very poorly, generating around 400,000 buys on Showtime PPV



Arum: Pac-Bradley III PPV numbers 'terrible'




Or....maybe nobody cares about Pacquiao anymore?:dahell:



How you gonna blame Floyd, when Canelo just did 900k:camby:
 

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Young Makaveli already cashing out :lawd: Just a kid from Newark :mjcry:

Get on this stan gang while you still can friends :ufdup:

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That's an old commercial....which means someone already had their eye on him:obama:


reason I think it's old, because it lists him as "US Olympic hopeful" and aint nothing "hopeful" about him....he's a legit Olympian. He's already on the team:ehh:


Just think though, this Olympic team was supposed to have Shakur Stevenson, Charles Conwell, and Erickson Lubin on it:wow:
 

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TR about to lose money on 2 consecutive PPVs in a row....first Senator Salt Water Moses vs The Fireman and then Bullet Head vs Ice Man (which needs 125k to break even I heard...and I don't think that many people will buy it):ohhh:
 
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