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We haven't seen Spence get hit by someone with any semblance of power to really know what would happen if he ate a straight left from Pac. He could very well take a good shot but this is Pac we're talking about & he still hurts guys when he lands. That's why I think he could very well get KO'ed. I agree with your post though :ehh:

Spence vs Provodnikov needs to happen I guess.
 

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my thats a low blow :francis:

He needs to get in the ring and prove it. Why wait for Spence to become Mandatory contender, but talk about him at the same time:camby:


Kell Brook has a voluntary defense available, and instead of using it to "expose" Spence (and further building his status amongst hardcore Boxing heads), he would rather talk shyt about Spence....but fight someone else:shaq2:
 

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stop, drop, and roll brehs
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That was a great 2 piece combination to the body by Khan:damn:
 

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He needs to get in the ring and prove it. Why wait for Spence to become Mandatory contender, but talk about him at the same time:camby:


Kell Brook has a voluntary defense available, and instead of using it to "expose" Spence (and further building his status amongst hardcore Boxing heads), he would rather talk shyt about Spence....but fight someone else:shaq2:

Totally agree. He should make that might instead of hoping Spence loses the eliminator
 

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That would be ugly. Provo runs the risk of getting stopped if that ever happened

Prov isnt a welterweight...Spence beating up on him proves very little

All the Welterweights with Punching Power are the Top guys who aren't interested in Spence until he's worth the risk...we won't know about Spence's Chin N his heart til then :manny:

I'd like to see Spence vs Lamont Peterson

Only Problem is who knows which Peterson you going get

Unlimited energy stand between rds Dr Note PED

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Terrified piss down ya leg :merchant: Peterson
 

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Errol Spence’s trainer talks Spence-Mayweather, @krackdagawd's PED chatter
Michael Woods
April 20, 2016


The trainer thought beforehand the reaction that occurred after Errol Spence did a smash-and-grab on Chris Algieri Saturday night in Brooklyn would happen.

“I thought going in, this is where America falls in love with Spence,” said Derrick James a couple days after the kid’s decapatative hook scrambled the Long Islander’s senses, forced a stop at Barclays Center and snagged massive attention from a star-starved boxing fandom.

“I heard people say before that Algieri would win. But Errol is what America is … we are the best, we want to continue to be the best. And calling out the best is the basis of America. He wants to be THE MAN.”

You get the sense James, like Spence a Texan, is still a mild bit salty at the lead-up to the fight. Algieri said he was going to “expose” Spence … but what was exposed, James said, is the true potential of his guy.

Speaking of true potential … and circling back to “calling out the best” …

The best boxer on the planet is as of now retired. Floyd Mayweather could still beat any and all at 147 without a single day of training camp, it could be argued. But the 26-year-old Spence leap-frogged some other candidates for “maybe” foes if and when Mayweather un-retires. I asked James, could we, would we see Mayweather vs. Spence? The wizened lion versus the guy who some see as an heir to “Money”?

“It will never happen,” James told me. “It doesn’t make sense. Floyd is retired.”
Also, the 20-0 Spence has opened eyes, but still has work to do. Like grabbing titles and taking down folks higher on the ladder at 147.

But … but … didn’t I hear that Spence knocked down Floyd when they sparred before Money fought lefty Robert Guerrero? “He never knocked Floyd down,” the trainer, at 44 now firmly ensconced in that cluster of tutors who seek to continue their way into that den of exalted vets, with the Freddie Roaches and such. “They had great sparring. And Floyd has NOTHING to prove.”

We talked more about the win over Algieri and how James was happy the New Yorker tried to work inside. I was curious, does this win mean Spence is right now to be considered BETTER than Amir Khan, who was neck-and-neck with Algieri when they battled last year. Nossir, said James, basically offering a version of the “styles make fights” explanation. His answer, though, had more to do with the strength of Spence. He’s a TRUE 147, not like so many of the crew clustered at the upper tier here. Khan was coming up, Algieri was coming up. Garcia just came up, etc. Spence fought at 152 at the 2012 Olympics and belongs here, now.

James didn’t give his guy an A-plus. Maybe if Algieri had been better, he told me … How so? Because, James stated, Spence could have been more defensively aware. He walked through Algieri’s shots without proper respect. “He steamrolled him.” Message: Not all foes will be able to be steamrolled.

And with that sort of showing comes chops busting. Boo birds, the Twitterati speaking with the bravery that comes from being out of range and the clarity that comes from never having tried to climb a hill, let alone a mountain, they spoke up. I was poked by a Tweeter who asked me to look at Spence’s breasts. Gynecomastia, the amateur physician told me, could indicate PED usage. A world class boxer even Tweeted out a Spence boobs crack the other day …

“I saw that,” James told me. “Spence won’t even take vitamins! USADA has been coming to his house for years. He was No. 1 as an amateur for four years. He couldn’t go anywhere without telling them where he was going. I promise you, he doesn’t do any of that stuff! I know, I do his strength and conditioning.”



 

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Prov isnt a welterweight...Spence beating up on him proves very little

All the Welterweights with Punching Power are the Top guys who aren't interested in Spence until he's worth the risk...we won't know about Spence's Chin N his heart til then :manny:

I'd like to see Spence vs Lamont Peterson

Only Problem is who knows which Peterson you going get

Unlimited energy stand between rds Dr Note PED

Or
Terrified piss down ya leg :merchant: Peterson

I see your point & agree after reading this. A fight with Vargas or even Chaves makes more sense
 

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Prov isnt a welterweight...Spence beating up on him proves very little

All the Welterweights with Punching Power are the Top guys who aren't interested in Spence until he's worth the risk...we won't know about Spence's Chin N his heart til then :manny:

I'd like to see Spence vs Lamont Peterson

Only Problem is who knows which Peterson you going get

Unlimited energy stand between rds Dr Note PED

Or
Terrified piss down ya leg :merchant: Peterson


Peterson doesn't possess any power to say Spence has passed the "good chin" test though. We know Prov will get destroyed, but he'll keep coming forward and bringing pressure and power punching all night long. Any of the 3, Prov/Molina Jr/Chaves all have top notch power (how can we forget how prov did Bradley?) and Im sure any of those 3 would be willing to step in between the ropes with him.
 

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Errol Spence’s trainer talks Spence-Mayweather, @krackdagawd's PED chatter
Michael Woods
April 20, 2016


The trainer thought beforehand the reaction that occurred after Errol Spence did a smash-and-grab on Chris Algieri Saturday night in Brooklyn would happen.

“I thought going in, this is where America falls in love with Spence,” said Derrick James a couple days after the kid’s decapatative hook scrambled the Long Islander’s senses, forced a stop at Barclays Center and snagged massive attention from a star-starved boxing fandom.

“I heard people say before that Algieri would win. But Errol is what America is … we are the best, we want to continue to be the best. And calling out the best is the basis of America. He wants to be THE MAN.”

You get the sense James, like Spence a Texan, is still a mild bit salty at the lead-up to the fight. Algieri said he was going to “expose” Spence … but what was exposed, James said, is the true potential of his guy.

Speaking of true potential … and circling back to “calling out the best” …

The best boxer on the planet is as of now retired. Floyd Mayweather could still beat any and all at 147 without a single day of training camp, it could be argued. But the 26-year-old Spence leap-frogged some other candidates for “maybe” foes if and when Mayweather un-retires. I asked James, could we, would we see Mayweather vs. Spence? The wizened lion versus the guy who some see as an heir to “Money”?

“It will never happen,” James told me. “It doesn’t make sense. Floyd is retired.”
Also, the 20-0 Spence has opened eyes, but still has work to do. Like grabbing titles and taking down folks higher on the ladder at 147.

But … but … didn’t I hear that Spence knocked down Floyd when they sparred before Money fought lefty Robert Guerrero? “He never knocked Floyd down,” the trainer, at 44 now firmly ensconced in that cluster of tutors who seek to continue their way into that den of exalted vets, with the Freddie Roaches and such. “They had great sparring. And Floyd has NOTHING to prove.”

We talked more about the win over Algieri and how James was happy the New Yorker tried to work inside. I was curious, does this win mean Spence is right now to be considered BETTER than Amir Khan, who was neck-and-neck with Algieri when they battled last year. Nossir, said James, basically offering a version of the “styles make fights” explanation. His answer, though, had more to do with the strength of Spence. He’s a TRUE 147, not like so many of the crew clustered at the upper tier here. Khan was coming up, Algieri was coming up. Garcia just came up, etc. Spence fought at 152 at the 2012 Olympics and belongs here, now.

James didn’t give his guy an A-plus. Maybe if Algieri had been better, he told me … How so? Because, James stated, Spence could have been more defensively aware. He walked through Algieri’s shots without proper respect. “He steamrolled him.” Message: Not all foes will be able to be steamrolled.

And with that sort of showing comes chops busting. Boo birds, the Twitterati speaking with the bravery that comes from being out of range and the clarity that comes from never having tried to climb a hill, let alone a mountain, they spoke up. I was poked by a Tweeter who asked me to look at Spence’s breasts. Gynecomastia, the amateur physician told me, could indicate PED usage. A world class boxer even Tweeted out a Spence boobs crack the other day …

“I saw that,” James told me. “Spence won’t even take vitamins! USADA has been coming to his house for years. He was No. 1 as an amateur for four years. He couldn’t go anywhere without telling them where he was going. I promise you, he doesn’t do any of that stuff! I know, I do his strength and conditioning.”



USADA been coming to your house for years huh :sas1:

Did they come in the months leading up to this fight tho :jbhmm:

How does a man in his 20s get gyno out of nowhere:jbhmm:

A guy who stays in shape year round:jbhmm:

He aint fooling me fam Spence is dirty.
 
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