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[TheNig]

Rios better get in the ring with Ortiz before it's all over with

I don't think he really want dem problems. I didn't know Vic was deep in dem skreets.

Anybody remember that story he told about Floyd not being able to look him in the eye when he was with his homies?

 

[yo moms]

I don't think he really want dem problems. I didn't know Vic was deep in dem skreets.

Anybody remember that story he told about Floyd not being able to look him in the eye when he was with his homies?

ortiz has the best stories

 

[yo moms]

True.


I was just looking at some old timer's resumes and they are littered with guys who have 15 or more losses

theres a LOT of top 50 p4p fighters of all time with more than 15 losses btw. losses didnt mean shyt back then because the best generally fought the best and careers werent built on having a zero.

 

[TheNig]

ortiz has the best stories

Crazy part about the Floyd joint is I actually believe that shyt. Floyd has come off as being easily intimidated outside of the ring so there's no reason not to believe this shyt.


And then the joint about running up in Rios crib and smackin' up his wife...

 

[The axe murderer]

Good comeback fight for both of em



Wish it wasn't on a Spanish speaking channel though, but whatever





*edit* Wait....are they fighting each other or not? Cant tell

fight has potential to be fire

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Blessings and salute to the future p4p..bud crawford!!!

 

[Newzz]

theres a LOT of top 50 p4p fighters of all time with more than 15 losses btw. losses didnt mean shyt back then because the best generally fought the best and careers werent built on having a zero.

That's true, but Im talking about the bums those fighters faced



For example, Harry Greb is heralded as one of the greatest fighters ever..........however, out of his 119 total bouts, 52 were against guys who entered the ring WITHOUT a winning record


That's 44% of his resume


So how impressive is it being 107-8-3, when almost half your resume was filled with guys who stepped in the ring against you without a winning record?




How is it impressing being 107-8-3, when 51 of your wins came against guys who didn't have a winning record?



How can I consider you an unstoppable force when all three of your 3 draws and your 1 NC came against guys without a winning record, and even 1 of your 8 career losses came against someone with a losing record?

 

[The axe murderer]

That's true, but Im talking about the bums those fighters faced



For example, Harry Greb is heralded as one of the greatest fighters ever..........however, out of his 119 total bouts, 52 were against guys who entered the ring WITHOUT a winning record


That's 44% of his resume


So how impressive is it being 107-8-3, when almost half your resume was filled with guys who stepped in the ring against you without a winning record?

 

[TheNig]

Good comeback fight for both of em



Wish it wasn't on a Spanish speaking channel though, but whatever





*edit* Wait....are they fighting each other or not? Cant tell

Same day as my cousin's wedding and I'm in it. Might skip out that joint to go to the fight.

 

[Newzz]

Imagine if Floyd's resume, 49-0, 44% of those bouts (that's 21 fights) were against guys who entered the ring against him already having a losing record



That's crazy right?



I've been reading a lot of old-timers resume's lately.....and the thing that stands out is how many bums they actually faced


I'm pretty sure a bum could be considered, across the board, as someone without a winning record....that's not even going into the details about the other fighters who had "winning" records like 42-29-31 that he faced & that I excluded due to the fact they had more wins than losses



Im pretty sure someone who was 42-29-31 wasn't a good fighter, but for sake or argument, I just wanna touch on those with non-winning records bc that's written in stone that you aren't a good fighter with a non-winning record

 

[TheNig]

That's true, but Im talking about the bums those fighters faced



For example, Harry Greb is heralded as one of the greatest fighters ever..........however, out of his 119 total bouts, 52 were against guys who entered the ring WITHOUT a winning record


That's 44% of his resume


So how impressive is it being 107-8-3, when almost half your resume was filled with guys who stepped in the ring against you without a winning record?




How is it impressing being 107-8-3, when 51 of your wins came against guys who didn't have a winning record?



How can I consider you an unstoppable force when all three of your 3 draws and your 1 NC came against guys without a winning record, and even 1 of your 8 career losses came against someone with a losing record?

I think those brehs longevity had more to do with their legacy than the actual level of fighters they were facing. Breh fought 119 times. Whose close to that in our lifetime? Lights Out, I believe is at like 90 or some shyt.

 

[TheNig]

Imagine if Floyd's resume, 49-0, 44% of those bouts (that's 21 fights) were against guys who entered the ring against him already having a losing record

If he'd retire like that, then we'd definitely have something to say about it.

 

[Newzz]

I think those brehs longevity had more to do with their legacy than the actual level of fighters they were facing. Breh fought 119 times. Whose close to that in our lifetime? Lights Out, I believe is at like 90 or some shyt.

You could fight forever if you're facing guys without winning records in 44% of your career bouts....Roy Jones is about to show you in the 3rd phase of his career

 

[The axe murderer]

Imagine if Floyd's resume, 49-0, 44% of those bouts (that's 21 fights) were against guys who entered the ring against him already having a losing record



That's crazy right?



I've been reading a lot of old-timers resume's lately.....and the thing that stands out is how many bums they actually faced


I'm pretty sure a bum could be considered, across the board, as someone without a winning record....that's not even going into the details about the other fighters who had "winning" records like 42-29-31 that he faced & that I excluded due to the fact they had more wins than losses



Im pretty sure someone who was 42-29-31 wasn't a good fighter, but for sake or argument, I just wanna touch on those with non-winning records bc that's written in stone that you aren't a good fighter with a non-winning record

Went immediately to look up guys like Julio Cesar Chavez and Carlos Monzon..........didn't seem to have records like that. Imma look up earlier ones like Willie Pep Archie Moore etc......... they seemed to fight the best

 

[Newzz]

Went immediately to look up guys like Julio Cesar Chavez and Carlos Monzon..........didn't seem to have records like that. Imma look up earlier ones like Willie Pep Archie Moore etc......... they seemed to fight the best

Im talking bout them old-old timers...the ones who's career was basically over before the 60s.