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Ike coming back breh? is he mentally stable?
i fear for his health and safety man..

there's still so many questions...he's preserved for the most part (barring the war he had with david tua) ill say that but almost 17 years out of the ring is crazy even for the heavyweight division

also i dont think he ever became a US citizen..i thought he would have been on his way to being deported back to nigeria?
 

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there's still so many questions...he's preserved for the most part (barring the war he had with david tua) ill say that but almost 17 years out of the ring is crazy even for the heavyweight division

also i dont think he ever became a US citizen..i thought he would have been on his way to being deported back to nigeria?
yeah i was meaning to ask about his status..he going back to nigeria man..maybe germany or maybe UK can help out with his career>
i see no hope man..a darn shame.
 

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yeah i was meaning to ask about his status..he going back to nigeria man..maybe germany or maybe UK can help out with his career>
i see no hope man..a darn shame.
i can see him on the overseas scene...honestly he would prolly make more money there than in the US at this time

i re read that yahoo sports article on him and this stuck out

He was released by the Nevada prison system on Feb. 28, 2014, but was handed to the U.S. Immigration & Customs Enforcement, which detained him in Eloy, Ariz. He was released from custody by ICE in November.

why did ICE let him go? does that mean he can stay in the US?
 

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BoxingScene.com's 2015 Robbery of the Year

By Jake Donovan

As silly as it seems to “celebrate” a horrible decision by year’s end, the category at least helps shed light on the fighter wronged by the official decision of said fight.

An unfortunate part of the sport – yet another aspect far too often dismissed as “it’s just boxing” – is the subjective nature in which bouts are scored. Some decisions are so bad that everyone at home watching is in agreement that the judges flat out missed the fight, though often accompanied with unsubstantiated claims of being on the take.

Yet any cries of the sport being in dire need of better officiating are often countered with any given debate over the severity of such a perceived robbery. There exists the group that claims said victimized fighter turned in a clinic and dominated every aspect of the fight, whereas others take the contrarian side, insisting the fight was much closer than is made out to be the case.

Sometimes, a string of events create such injustice as to where there’s no disputing the damage that has been caused.

With that, BoxingScene.com takes a different direction in presenting this year’s selection for the greatest robbery of 2015.

ROBBERY OF THE YEAR – THE INDUSTRY vs. STEVE CUNNINGHAM

It was a year that began on a high note considering how Steve Cunnigham was able to close out 2014. The former cruiserweight champ claimed two wins in the ring, but his biggest victory came in December when his nine-year old daughter Kennedy underwent successfully surgery to replace an ailing heart with which she was forced to contend since birth.

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The good fortunes carried over into a March showdown with Vyacheslav Glazkov that came with two significant sidebars: serving as an International Boxing Federation (IBF) final eliminator, with the winner to be named a mandatory challenger for the heavyweight throne; and also marking Cunningham’s long-overdue HBO-televised debut.

Rather than serving as the continuation of what appeared to be career revival, the heavyweight eliminator instead kicked off a 2015 campaign to forget.

Cunningham didn’t leave much an impression on HBO viewers in his first network appearance, as his 12 rounds with Glazkov lacked any semblance of entertainment value. The lazy take from the fight was that neither fighter deserved to win the dull affair.

The judges didn’t have such luxury, other than to have scored the fight a draw. The general perception was that while Glazkov came forward, he rarely landed more than one punch at a time. Cunningham was the busier fighter, throwing and landing more punches but also spending much of the night fighting in reverse – far too often frowned upon by judges when pressed to pick a winner.

There’s no other sensible explanation as to how Glazkov won seven rounds on one card and eight rounds in the eyes of the other two judges, yet the unbeaten heavyweight from Ukraine remains in good graces with the judges. He was given the benefit of the doubt in a draw that should’ve been a loss to Malik Scott, as well as a win that should’ve been no better than a draw with Derric Rossy.

On this particular night in Montreal, he was given the benefit of the doubt by all three judges versus Cunningham, who will likely never come closer to fighting for the heavyweight title.

A win would have put him in line to face the champ – Wladimir Klitschko at the time, before falling short versus Tyson Fury in November. The IBF belt is now vacant, after Glazkov and promoter Main Events pulled a power play on Fury, leaving the unbeaten Brit no choice but to relinquish the title as he is contractually obligated to grant Klitschko a rematch.

It stands to reason that Cunningham would’ve fared a decent chance versus unbeaten but untested Charles Martin, whom Glazkov will now face for the vacant title in mid-January. Unless he sticks around at heavyweight and fights his way back into contention, we will likely never know.

The decision to drop back down to cruiserweight came after his lone other bout of 2015, a disappointing 12-round draw with faded former light heavyweight champ Antonio Tarver this past August in Newark, New Jersey.

Oddly enough, the final verdict wasn’t in dispute – just the manner in which the fight was conducted.

For at least two months, the forgettable 12-round affair was overshadowed by the evening’s co-feature. Krzysztof Glowacki managed to climb off the canvas to knock out and dethrone long-reigning cruiserweight titlist Marco Huck (whom Cunningham defeated eight years ago) in the 11th round of an epic war that remains among the leading candidates for 2015 Fight of the Year.

Cunningham-Tarver was the antithesis of its predecessor. The real shame of it is that the fight never should have taken place at all.

There existed pre-fight confusion over the manner in which random drug testing would be performed. It was eventually resolved, but didn’t prove effective enough to catch either party in the act prior to the opening bell. Under normal circumstances, it would suggest that both fighters were clean.

A major development in mid-October proved otherwise. It was learned more than two months after the fight that Tarver tested positive for synthetic testosterone. The findings suggested that such usage came prior to the fight but came late enough in the promotion to where it was weeks later before the discovery was made.

Tarver had previously tested positive for drostanolone in a 12-round draw with Lateef Kayode in June ’12. Given his past history, little sympathy came of the most recent drug finding, least of all from Cunningham who spent his entire heavyweight run at a considerable size disadvantage.

Naturally, Tarver professed the role of hapless victim, claiming the test was either contaminated or mixed up with another result. The fact that both the “A” and “B” samples came back positive refute such claims, although Tarver exercised his right to appeal, with the matter still under litigation.

Tarver’s previous failed drug tested resulted in his being relieved of commentating duties at Showtime, as well as NBC rescinding a previous offer to have him serve as an in-studio expert boxing analyst for the 2012 London Olympics.

No such actions have yet been taken as he continues to serve a similar role for the ongoing Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) series on Spike TV. In fact, the only edition he didn’t sit in on the broadcast call was the one he and Cunningham headlined in August.

He’s since called four telecasts, two of which came after it was made publicly aware of his second failed drug test in three years (pending further review).

Whereas Cunningham saw 2014 start and end on a high note, the same cannot be said of the past 12 months that was. In being denied a win he watches a man he knows he beat in the ring now contend for a portion of the heavyweight title. In drug testing protocol not meeting his pre-fight demands and an appeal process that continues to delay the inevitable, he has to sit back and listen to a man whom is believed to have cheated the system continue to gain employment as a color commentator.

It was the unkindest of years for Steve Cunningham. Either aforementioned instance could rate as the greatest injustice dealt to a single fighter in 2015. That both happened to the same fighter combine for the 2015 Robbery of the Year.

(DIS) HONORABLE MENTION – KEITA OBARA D12 WALTER CASTILLO

Obara and his team were in positive spirits throughout fight week for his first career trip to the United States ahead of his 12-round showdown with Castillo, but the 29-year old from Tokyo was literally reduced to tears once the bout was officially announced a majority decision draw.

The Nov. 7th clash – which aired live on NBC Sports Network from Micosukee Indian Gaming Resort in Miami, Florida – was to declare a mandatory challenger for unbeaten Eduard Troyanovsky, who just three days prior claimed a super lightweight belt in a knockout win over Cesar Cuenca. While it can be called into question how Obara and Castillo were able to make their way to an official title eliminator, there shouldn’t have been any dispute as to who deserved the nod by fight’s end.

Unfortunately only one of the three judges agreed with that notion. At that, it can be argued that Michael Ancona’s scorecard of 115-113 in favor of Obara was well too close. In that vein, it doesn’t explain how John Rupert and Mark Streissand came to the conclusion that Castillo – who was competitive early but struggled to keep pace as Obara never showed signs of slowing down –managed to fight on even terms.

The official verdict was met with immediate outrage by viewers voicing their displeasure through social media. The broadcast team (full disclosure – this author served as the unofficial scorer for the NBCSN telecast) was in disbelief, as were the fans and ringside media on hand.

Worse, it denied Obara the right for his next fight to be for the title. Instead, he’s now forced to enter a rematch with Castillo while Troyanovsky will take on an optional defense, likely a rematch with Cuenca.

Perhaps he’ll prove to be lucky the second time around – but it never should’ve come to that.

OTHER HEAD SCRATCHING RESULTS

Nicholas Walters appeared to enjoy a successful debut in his first scheduled bout in the 130 lb. division versus Jason Sosa. Their Dec. 19th HBO-televised affair in Verona, New York saw Sosa throw more punches, but Walters land far more and particularly in his body attack. It wasn’t enough for the unbeaten former featherweight titlist to get the nod on even one card, as the bout was declared a 10-round majority draw.

Jean Pascal was tabbed with the task of getting past Yunieski Gonzalez in order to preserve plans for an eventually scheduled rematch with Sergey Kovalev. Where Pascal failed to live up to his end, the judges bailed out the former light heavyweight champ in awarding him a widely disputed 10-round split decision win in a bout most felt deserved to go to the previously unbeaten Cuban boxer.

Six months after a disputed decision loss to Danny Garcia in Brooklyn, former 140 lb. champ Lamont Peterson landed on the favorable end of a questionable majority decision win over Felix Diaz this past October in Fairfax, Virginia. Diaz suffered his first career loss, despite appearing to have taken full control over the course of the second half of their NBC-televised welterweight headliner. The bout was overshadowed by a welterweight co-feature battle that left Prichard Colon in a coma and still fighting for his life, but doesn’t change the perception that Peterson was given the benefit of the doubt by three local judges in a fight taking place roughly 30 minutes from his Washington D.C. hometown.

- See more at: BoxingScene.com's 2015 Robbery of the Year -Boxing News
 

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Those fights were 10 years apart :comeon:

Terrible example...also hilarious based on the fact Holyfield got tested in that Tyson fight.


You're comfortable with this statement when we are talking bout drug testing from the 90s?:usure:


Mosley never failed a drug test back then either:comeon:


Let's not forget how Evan Fields was questioned about roids after the Moorer fight and his "bad heart"...which is also a side effect of long term roid use:mjpls:
 
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