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BOXING / EARL GUSTKEY : Steroid Accusation Gets a Rise Out of Holyfield
June 08, 1992|EARL GUSTKEY


If Larry Holmes wanted to get under Evander Holyfield's skin during the pre-fight buildup to their June 19 bout at Caesars Palace, he succeeded. He brought up the S-word.

Steroids.

When Holmes raised the subject during a recent interview, the heavyweight champion's response was eight typewritten lines. Eight lines is a personal high for Holyfield. He didn't even have eight lines to say when that Yugoslav referee threw him out of the 1984 Olympics.

Or after he had flattened Buster Douglas and won the heavyweight championship.

There have been whispers of Holyfield and steroids for several years, or ever since his body made the transition from string-bean light-heavyweight in 1984 to its present configuration.

He has heatedly denied using body-building drugs, and instead credits intensive, high-tech conditioning and weight training.

So when the champion was asked what he thought of Holmes' comments, he said:

"They should test for steroids. If you want to catch someone, why say anything? Just go and test them. I'm ready. I never took steroids, and it doesn't bother me to take the test."



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BOXING / EARL GUSTKEY : Steroid Accusation Gets a Rise Out of Holyfield
June 08, 1992|EARL GUSTKEY


If Larry Holmes wanted to get under Evander Holyfield's skin during the pre-fight buildup to their June 19 bout at Caesars Palace, he succeeded. He brought up the S-word.

Steroids.

When Holmes raised the subject during a recent interview, the heavyweight champion's response was eight typewritten lines. Eight lines is a personal high for Holyfield. He didn't even have eight lines to say when that Yugoslav referee threw him out of the 1984 Olympics.

Or after he had flattened Buster Douglas and won the heavyweight championship.

There have been whispers of Holyfield and steroids for several years, or ever since his body made the transition from string-bean light-heavyweight in 1984 to its present configuration.

He has heatedly denied using body-building drugs, and instead credits intensive, high-tech conditioning and weight training.

So when the champion was asked what he thought of Holmes' comments, he said:

"They should test for steroids. If you want to catch someone, why say anything? Just go and test them. I'm ready. I never took steroids, and it doesn't bother me to take the test."



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MICKEY BEY EAGER FOR ANOTHER TITLE SHOT: "BARTHELEMY OR ANYBODY ELSE WITH A BELT, IT DON'T MATTER...I'M READY"
By Percy Crawford | December 29, 2015


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PC: Congratulations on the win. It's been a long time coming. How did you feel?

MB: It felt good. This was my first time fighting since I won the belt last year, so it felt good to get in there and get some activity.

PC: Although you had an edge in experience, you fought a young undefeated kid off of that layoff.

MB: Without a doubt. This young kid definitely came in good shape. I got a chance to get 10 good rounds in and now my promoter, Floyd Mayweather, and Leonard Ellerbe said it's back on to get another world title soon.

PC: I know it's par for the course, but to go from fighting for a world title on a Floyd Mayweather pay-per-view one fight to off TV your next, that had to be awkward?

MB: It was a little different. Like you said, it was off TV. I just see it as I ain't never got nothing easy, so why start now. I just had to get over the hump. Floyd Jr. wanted me to get in there and get a fight in for some activity, so I got in there to do what I gotta do to get back on the big stage.

PC: Talk about the fight! Did you feel rusty or were you sharp from the beginning?

MB: After a couple of rounds, I started to feel sharp, but nobody saw rust. My trainer, Floyd Sr., is real honest and he liked the performance. He said I didn't show no rust and he wants me to fight for a title next and be on the big stage. And I'm sure Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Leonard Ellerbe want the same thing. So I'm ready to show I'm one of the top fighters in the game.

PC: Did this layoff feel any different than prior layoffs?

MB: It was just another layoff that I had to overcome. I just stayed mentally and spiritually grounded. You kind of gotta get up more for these kind of fights, coming off of the belt and then fighting a fight like that. So I had to get up for it. It helped that I knew there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I got it out of the way and I'm ready to get from up under the radar. I'm too good to be up under the radar.

PC: That's one of those trap type of fights. A letdown wasn't an option for you, was it?

MB: Oh nah, it's not an option at all. My mentality now is business is business and I gotta handle it, whether it's a championship fight or a club fight. Like I said, this dude was a young, undefeated fighter; tough fighter. I couldn't slip up because without that, there was no getting back to the big stage, so I had to make sure I was on point.

PC: Did you find footage on him or did you just have to feel him out when you got in there with him?

MB: I just had to feel him out when the bell sounded. I know people that knew him personally from Philly because that's where he is from. I got a lot of friends from there that fight and they told me a couple of things. I never saw him, but I just trained and followed Floyd Sr.'s game plan and came ready. What surprised me is he came in great shape and he had a whole lot of heart to go the duration.

PC: What is your mindset right now as far as the road back? Are you going to be right back in the gym or take a little break to enjoy the New Year?

MB: The mindset is to get right to the top as soon as possible. If it was up to me, it would be in 6 weeks, but I got a great promoter and I'm sure they are going to line me up and keep me in a good position. I'm going to just leave it up to my promoter to get me back on top.

PC: Did you get to see the Rances Barthelemy versus Denis Shafikov fight?

MB: No, I didn't even see it. I heard about it. I had some people in town, so I didn't get a chance to watch it, but I heard it was a good fight. I could get it on with Barthelemy or anybody else with a belt, it don't matter. You can throw all of the names in a hat and draw out whichever one you want and I'm ready.

PC: Before I let you go, you made the Olympic Team, but wasn't able to compete due to an illness. Could you offer any advice to the guys that didn't make it and who are either going to wait another 4 years or turn pro, and to the guys that did make it?

MB: To the guys that made it, congratulations, stay focused, and keep your eye on the prize. And for the guys that didn't make it, it's not over. Most of the great professionals now never even made the Olympics. They can keep their heads up because it's night and day from the amateurs to the pros, so just keep on working. I want to congratulate the middleweight that made it from Cleveland [Kato Montgomery]. I want to congratulate him. I don't even know him because I've been in Vegas, but I heard some good stuff about him. He made it in the middleweight division.

PC: Congratulations again on the win and I hope the best for you moving forward. You have always been 100 with me and I respect that about you. Is there anything else you want to add before I let you go?

MB: Thanks a lot. I want to thank FightHype for always keeping it real and keeping everybody updated on what I'm doing. I just want to thank Mayweather Promotions and Floyd Mayweather and my team for doing what they have done for me and what is yet to come. I just want everybody to stay tuned!





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TERRELL GAUSHA: "2016, I COULD BE KNOCKING SOME BIG NAMES OFF OR HOPEFULLY GET A TITLE SHOT"
By Percy Crawford | December 29, 2015


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PC: Congratulations on your 17th win as a professional. How did you feel about your performance?

TG: Thanks for that. I feel like I did real good. I feel like I fought smart. I boxed real smart and I went out there and did what I had to do.

PC: You put him down in the second round. Obviously he got up and went the distance. Was that a matter of you being smart and patient or did you not feel like he was hurt bad enough to go in for the finish?

TG: I jumped on him after I dropped him and landed some good shots. I wanted to get the knockout, but of course I wanted to be smart in there because he was just trying to throw one big shot. He was trying to land one big lucky shot, so it was just a matter of being cautious.

PC: Like I mentioned, it seems like yesterday I was talking to you fresh out of the Olympics and now you are 17 fights in. How do you feel everything is going so far in your career?

TG: To be honest, it's crazy because it does feel like just yesterday I was getting out of the Olympics. But it's been a good road. I feel like everything is falling into place. I'm with the right people and all I have to do is keep working and I feel like I will be right there. By next year, we will be getting the bigger fights and the bigger names.

PC: El Harrak had a good resume coming in and he's held his own with some good guys. Do you feel like you were just able to neutralize his strengths?

TG: To be honest, I think I took away his strengths because I just boxed and outclassed him. I just boxed and moved. I gave him a different look. I'm usually aggressive, but this time I wanted to show people that I can also box and bring different things to the table. I feel like I was just outsmarting him and staying two steps ahead of him.

PC: You have been in some exciting fights that sometimes led to back and forth action. Did you sense yourself that you had to open up your playbook so to speak or did your trainers have a talk with you?

TG: When I looked at my last fight before this one, I just felt like I could have made the fight a lot easier by boxing and being smarter. Me and my coaches been working on it in camp. That's how you have longevity in this sport by being smart, but also exciting at the same time.

PC: You fought 4 times this year. How would you grade out your year?

TG: I think it's been a successful year, but we can always do better. Next year, I'm looking to do bigger and better things. It only gets better from here. The competition will get harder, so we gotta pick up the work and be consistent.

PC: I spoke with a trainer whose opinion I value and he said you're one of the younger fighters truly willing to fight anyone. When I looked up the records of your opponents from this year, it was a combined 66-15. What do you feel that says about you as a fighter?

TG: To me, that say that I'm always looking to prove myself and that I love a challenge. In order to be the best, you have to beat the best and I'm looking to step it up each time. With this type of pace, I'll be at the championship spot in no time. I feel like I'm right on schedule.

PC: Would you like a little down time to enjoy the holidays and the New Year or would you like for Team Haymon to be ringing your phone sooner rather than later?

TG: (Laughing) I'd like to be fighting some time in February if possible. I like to stay busy. We are young right now. I feel like I didn't get touched a lot in that fight and I'm ready to jump back in there.

PC: You have that one fight at a time approach. Is that how you will enter 2016 as well or do you have set goals for next year?

TG: I feel like my manager knows exactly what he is doing. I leave that part to him and I just stay ready. I feel like 2016, I could be knocking some big names off or hopefully get a title shot. That would be great. I would love to do that and get that belt.

PC: Your second time going 10 rounds. How did you feel?

TG: Man, that felt awesome. It felt real good though. I could have went 12. I was feeling good afterwards; I definitely could have gone 2 more.

PC: A lot of young talent in this division. What do you feel will eventually separate you from the pack?

TG: I'm a student of the game and I just feel like I get better each time I step in the ring. I think just being able to outthink these guys and staying sharp will be the difference. There is a lot of competition out there and I just want to prove myself and just keep my feet on the ground. I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but when the time comes, I will show the people that I am one of the best out there at 154.

PC: You had 4 fights this year. Are you focused on better competition and less fights next year, better competition and more fights, or a 4-fight a year pace is good no matter the competition?

TG: Four fights is good for me. I love to stay busy. I feel like that's a good pace for me. It's all up to Al, but at the end of the day, I feel like I can go 4 or 5 times a year and that would be great.

PC: Congrats on the win. I look forward to seeing you in there next year and best of luck. Is there anything you want to say before I let you go?

TG: I appreciate it. I just really want to say just look for bigger and better things in 2016. I'm keeping my foot on these guys' throat and I'm blessed to have the team that I have.





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STEPHEN "BREADMAN" EDWARDS RECAPS THE BIGGEST WINNERS AND LOSERS IN 2015; LOOKS AHEAD TO 2016
By Percy Crawford | December 29, 2015


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PC: I wanted to do a recap of the year in boxing with you. With Floyd Mayweather announcing his retirement, who do you see as the new pound-for-pound king? Who replaced Floyd on your list?

SE: You know what, Perc? I think it's up for grabs. I would say Guillermo Rigondeaux, but he's inactive and he didn't look good in his last fight; maybe that was because of the 2-weeks notice. I think the broadcasters did him a little bit of a disservice because they should have pointed out that he did take the fight on 2-weeks notice. If you twist my arm, I would say Andre Ward. I think he is the best fighter in the world because he's the guy that has accomplished the most out of the people in the argument. I'm a big Ward fan, but he's been inactive also, so it kind of takes the argument away. He's fought maybe two times in the last 2 or 3 years I think. I don't have a problem with Roman Gonzalez being named the best guy. He's a 3-division champion, he's 44 and 0, and the eyeball test shows me he's a great fighter. He's fought some really good competition; we just don't know all of his opponents. I don't have a problem with Ring putting him as the number one guy. I actually think that it's going to change. It's going to kind of go from hand to hand over the next 2 years. I don't think we are going to get a consensus #1 like we had with Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao before him, and Roy Jones before that where you had one guy who was the #1 guy for a 3, 4, 5-year stretch. I don't think we are going to have that for awhile because I think there are too many guys that are kind of clustered together where with a loss here and a loss there, it will kind of change. Right now, they may say Roman Gonzalez is, but the winner of Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev would certainly get a lot of votes next year if that ever takes place, which I think it will. How can you not put that guy as your #1? I don't care what Roman Gonzalez did, that fight is so big and so historically relevant that that guy is going to be the #1 guy. I think it will kind of flip flop with performances. It's going to go up and down and through a few guys' hands for a little while.

PC: You mentioned Andre Ward and Guillermo Rigondeaux's inactivity. Add in Mikey Garcia and that is 3 of the top guys in the sport who have been very inactive. How detrimental is that to not only their careers, but to the sport to have 3 of your top guys on the sideline for whatever reason?

SE: Everybody has a personal thing; they have their own personal situation that they need to work out. I'm a fan of all 3 of those guys and they all fight totally different styles. But it's never good for boxing when you have undefeated guys that are in relevant divisions that have big fights that they can be in...you're talking about 3 guys in the top 10 or 15 in the world and none of them are fighting often or consistent. It's definitely not a good thing for boxing and it hurts them from a boxing standpoint because the old saying goes, "If you rest too much, you rust too much!" Maybe they all can come back and be the same or maybe they won't. Who knows? But it definitely drops your stock when you go away from this sport unless you are somebody that is considered a superstar. All of them guys are great fighters, but none of them are just a flat out superstar where you can take off and the demand for you to come back is so big that it kind of outweighs the fact that you took off. Like Ray Leonard can take off and he can come back and be bigger than ever. Ali can take off and he can come back and be bigger than ever. Mike Tyson can take off and he can come back and be bigger than ever. Floyd Mayweather can take off and come back and be bigger than ever. Those guys is what you call great fighters, they are championship fighters, but they haven't reached the superstar status yet, so when they take off, it hurts their appeal a little bit. It's not the superstar going away to where you are the prodigal son and you come back and everybody has been waiting for you like, where have you been? Those guys are still more or less building their legacies to where the other guys who took off, they kind of had that superstar status already, so when they leave for a little while, it kind of makes their appeal go up. Ward, Rigondeaux, and Garcia, it doesn't make their appeal go up. It kind of makes people forget about them. If Ward was active, let's be honest, it wouldn't be an argument over who was the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. The only reason Roman Gonzales is considered the best fighter in the world is because Andre Ward is not active anymore. Andre Ward is in a more relevant division, he's an Olympian, he went through the Super Six, so if he was still fighting and he was fighting guys like DeGale, Dirrell and Badou Jack and Kovalev and Adonis Stevenson, if he had those kind of fights on his ledger over 2013, '14 and '15, would we really be arguing over who was the best fighter in the world? It would be a consensus opinion. I definitely think it hurts their stock to a degree.

PC: We are in a sport where, with the exception of an occasional draw, we have a winner and a loser. Who won in boxing this year in your opinion? It can be a promoter, network, or fighter.

SE: I don't want to answer my guy because it's always going to come off as biased, but he had a good year. But I think Deontay Wilder won. Deontay Wilder had a tremendous year in my opinion because I think he improved. He finally got rounds up under his belt. He was a guy that didn't have rounds. He went the distance; a couple of guys took him into the second half of the fight. He really performed, so I think Wilder won. Tyson Fury won. He became the lineal heavyweight champion of the world. You can't get no bigger than that. That was a huge accomplishment. Obviously Floyd Mayweather won. He won the legacy defining fight. If Floyd does not beat Manny Pacquiao, as messed up as this is, it would have definitely damaged his legacy. That's a guy that he had to defeat. If he didn't beat him in 2015, people would have assumed that he never would have beat him in 2010. So Floyd had to win that fight. All the promoters that are with PBC, those guys are winning (laughing). They are making a whole lot of money. I don't have to name all of them, but those guys are getting plenty of work. Canelo Alvarez is winning. He got the lineal middleweight championship of the world at 155 pounds. He's the A-side to anybody except for Floyd Mayweather, so he won big. I think Roman Gonzalez won. He got to be the #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world. He finally got a chance to get on HBO and he's a 112-pounder. Historically they don't make a lot of money in that division, so he definitely won. Those are some guys I consider that really had good years in 2015.
 

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PC: Unfortunately we have to look at the flip side of that. Who took a loss this year in the sport?

SE: I hate talking negative about boxers because people are so hard on boxers already, but if I'm going to give you an honest answer, Brandon Rios lost. Timothy Bradley is not known as a puncher. Rios gets another big fight on HBO and he gets knocked out by Bradley. He seems to be...guys who fight with his style don't usually have a lot of longevity. I can't see Rios having...he may go from being a championship level fighter to sort of a gatekeeper kind of a guy. I don't like to use that word, but it's going to be tough for Brandon Rios at 147 to become relevant again. Bermane Stiverne lost. He's a heavyweight and it's a shame that he came in so overweight for his fight with Wilder. He took a bad beating in that fight and he didn't look good in his next fight after that. So to be the heavyweight champion of the world and to lose your title, it seems like he left a piece of himself in the ring for that particular fight. I think Roc Nation lost. They had a lot of big signings, but besides Cotto, they haven't done anything relevant in the sport of boxing. They have Andre Ward, who I think is a fantastic fighter. I just think he could be showcased a lot more than he is. They lost with Cotto, who is their biggest star and Cotto just lost to Canelo, which is not a good thing when you have one guy who is sort of keeping your lights on in your company and then that guy takes a loss. That was a really, really important fight between Roc Nation and Golden Boy and Golden Boy came out on top. But I want to see everybody do good. Hopefully everybody that I named can bounce back next year. The more people that do good in boxing brings more prosperity and positive vibes to the sport.

PC: Who was your breakout star of the year?

SE: My kid! I really think Julian came on this year. He fought 3 times. He didn't lose a round in any of his fights. He worked his way up to a mandatory eliminator fight. He was denied a couple of big fights, but I really think that if he wasn't a contender last year, he is 100% a contender now. There are no more prospect labels on this kid. I think a kid that he can fight, Jermall Charlo, finally got a title shot. He is the champion of the world right now. He really broke out this year. James DeGale really impressed me. I was always a big fan of Andre Dirrell and James DeGale came over here to America and fought him and beat him. That was a very significant performance. Andre Dirrell is a really talented fighter and to beat him on American soil was a really big accomplishment. Badou Jack...I know Badou Jack casually. I speak to him and say what's up, but you talk about a guy who turned his career around, man. I am super proud of that guy. He's very humble. He won two fights as the underdog and that's not easy, man. People don't even take fights if they are the underdog in this day and time. He went into two fights and was the underdog and won both of the fights cleanly against George Groves and Anthony Dirrell. Out of everybody, he was definitely the Breakout Fighter of the Year in my opinion. He had an incredible year. I don't know if he will be the Fighter of the Year, but he should definitely be Comeback Fighter of the Year. He got knocked out in the first round about 3 or 4 fights ago and that dude just totally turned it around with just hard work and perseverance. Like I said, he took fights when he was the underdog. Nobody does that in this era. They just don't do it. You got guys that always want to be the favorite, they hide behind their promoters, and that guy took two fights where he was the underdog and won them both, so I definitely think Badou Jack deserves all of the props that he's going to get, man.

PC: What would you like to see happen in the sport of boxing in 2016?


SE: Obviously drug testing, but we spoke on that. But the main thing I want to see, man, I want to see the judges and the referees collectively do a better job and I want to see them held accountable for their actions when they make a mistake. I really think that some of these unfair decisions that get handed down by a judge or a referee changes a guy's life around. It really does. To go through a 8 or 10-week camp and to have somebody make a bad call, you lose your drive to go through that again. People don't understand what fighters go through, so to put everything into something and still come up short is devastating mentally and they don't have that to keep going through that. And I also want to see the powers that be, the promoters, the big time managers or whatever you want to call them, I think they gotta start making these guys fight. It's too much politics involved in boxing. And people keep using the politics as an excuse, but it's really guys just not wanting to fight. They are hiding behind their company. That's just what it is. Now I don't believe that a fighter has to fight a killer every time out because you will shorten your career. You don't have to do that. I remember when Manny Pacquiao was with Murad Muhammad, he fought freaking Marco Antonio Barrera, then he turned around and fought Juan Manuel Marquez, he had an in-between fight and then he went straight to Erik Morales and I was like, "Damn! They trying to kill ol' boy." That's not easy for nobody and I get that, but these guys just hide behind their companies so much and then they get rewarded getting a fight that they know they can win. And they get a decent payday. It may not be the huge payday, Perc, but the guy gets a win and he gets a nice 6-figure payday, he's going to keep doing that for the rest of his career. Nobody is going to fight the 50/50 tough fight against a guy that has a chance to beat them when they can keep fighting 70/30 and 80/20 fights for a little bit less money, but the risk is way less. I just think that guys have to earn their money to an extent. You don't have to fight killers all of the time, but it's getting a little bit crazy now because everybody is fighting showcase fight after showcase fight after showcase fight. It's like, come on, man, how many of those fights are you going to fight? You should at least sprinkle it out; fight a tough fight, then a showcase fight, fight a tough fight, then a showcase fight, fight two showcase fights and then come back and fight a tough fight. But to just fight showcase after showcase is getting old now. People not stupid; they know who is a real threat and whose not. That's why Badou Jack gets so much credit in my opinion because he jumped in the ring with two guys who was supposed to beat him and won both fights. He deserves a showcase fight if anybody does. He probably won't get one, but if anybody deserves a "go ahead and knock out a turkey sandwich that's not top 15", it's Badou Jack. But he'll probably have to take another tough fight. I'm hearing about him and DeGale, and I'm sure he don't mind, but if anybody deserves it, it's a guy like him. That's what I hope happens next year is that some of these guys are just made to fight. Everybody wants to get paid and you only got 20% of these kids really willing to take a tough fight. They say one thing publicly, but privately, they say something completely different.



STEPHEN "BREADMAN" EDWARDS RECAPS THE BIGGEST WINNERS AND LOSERS IN 2015; LOOKS AHEAD TO 2016 || FIGHTHYPE.COM






@patscorpio you must've ghost written the last paragraph here too breh:wow:



Lotta people inside of Boxing are getting fed up with what's going on, and Breadman knows 100% what's going on being that he's someone who actually deals with Al Haymon 1st hand to get fights. nikkas ducking left & right, or taking 750k to fight a non-threat vs taking 1.25 million to face a top contender is starting to get :scusthov: to even people affiliated with the sport directly.
 

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Random thot but since it's almost done I feel that 2015 is the best year of boxing in decades

I ain't no historian so iont know if there was a year better in the 1800s or something
But this year has really been tremendous in almost every category possible

Every mega fight we wanted happened this year (Mayweather/Pac, Cotto/Canelo)
This year our sport went from only 3 networks and 2 days a week to like 12 networks and 5 days a week

Wilder kicked the year off by becoming America's champ and gave us 3 great fights which used to be a rarity in his division
Yes :deadklit: put on 2 horrendous fights this year but :deadklit: was upset and left befuddled by the young Tyson Fury
Heavyweight division has gone through a much needed changing of the guard this year and 2016 looks to continue the trend

We've had plenty of great fights this year and a majority of them were televised in America
There's usually 2-3 legit FOTY contenders but this year there's almost 5x that amount in legit FOTY contenders
There's been a ton of upsets, close call after close call and crazy KO after KO

We've been steadily feasting this year and we really deserve it too
After years of PPV's and most fights stuck behind a secondary pay wall we deserve to feast like this
We and the rest of America deserve to watch boxing on national tv like it used to be

Usually when a really good year happens in our sport the next year is a disappointment
But 2016 is setting up to follow the greatness that was 2015
Wilder starts the year and Garcia/Guerrero break new ground on FOX
February looking full with Thurman/Porter, Martinez/Salido 3 and Frampton/Quigg
:salute:to everyone for giving us an amazing 2015 and lets do it again in 2016
 

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@patscorpio you must've ghost written the last paragraph here too breh:wow:



Lotta people inside of Boxing are getting fed up with what's going on, and Breadman knows 100% what's going on being that he's someone who actually deals with Al Haymon 1st hand to get fights. nikkas ducking left & right, or taking 750k to fight a non-threat vs taking 1.25 million to face a top contender is starting to get :scusthov: to even people affiliated with the sport directly.

shyt I hope more and more open their eyes to what I've been seeing....today's fighters don't want to be great...too many yes men and cosigners on this nonsense permeating boxing
 

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Errytime I read something from Bread... Angel Garcia "don't go saying shyt in the media" pops into my head

Jrock makes it N ever big times another fighter, turns down a fight because of money, turns down a fighter that isn't "proven enough", fights less then stellar opp... Hes goin look bad N it ain't even his fault its his :dame:trainer
 

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Errytime I read something from Bread... Angel Garcia "don't go saying shyt in the media" pops into my head

Jrock makes it N ever big times another fighter, turns down a fight because of money, turns down a fighter that isn't "proven enough", fights less then stellar opp... Hes goin look bad N it ain't even his fault its his :dame:trainer


But Breadman is apart of the media, as well as being a Boxing trainer, so that doesn't apply to him:manny:
 
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