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Postol isn't good and Matthysse lost to someone as bad as Postol because he's not meant to have a belt :Belts On Belts:


That's why he's "The Maid Of Honor"....always standing next to a Champion, but will never become one himself:russ:



And the name of that Swift smiley being called "belts on belts":dead::heh:
 

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I think it's Martirosyan and then the winner of Charlo/Jackson for the WBC belt





They said he'll be back early next year. No mentions of any opps but
If you look at his rankings with the belts, you'll see he's 1 fight from being the mandatory in all of em

So Beterbiev gonna get kovalev's scalp eventually :demonic:



Pat I was at the fight too and Postol is just as bad as Choc says
He was getting tagged by a :trash:he chose, he was holding and looking over at his corner like :francis: and arguing with them between rounds

Postol isn't good and Matthysse lost to someone as bad as Postol because he's not meant to have a belt :Belts On Belts:



#rocboyz in da building .:banderas:
 

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Arum: Margarito Must Be Realistic With Money Demands

Posted by: Rick Reeno on 11/6/2015 .


By Rick Reeno

Wynn Resort & Casino, Las Vegas - During the summer, former welterweight champion Antonio Margarito announced that he was going to unretired and fight again in the near future.

Margarito (38-8, 27KOs), 37-years-old, has been away from the ring for nearly four years.

He was forced to retire after suffering a serious eye injury in his decision loss to Manny Pacquiao in November 2010.

After losing to Pacquiao and having to go through a thorough post-surgery recovery for the eye injury, he returned in December 2011 and was stopped in nine rounds by Miguel Cotto. In the early rounds of that rematch, Margarito's injured eye began to swell rapidly and it ultimately led to a ringside physician advising the referee to stop the fight.

Margarito had hoped to return on a date in December, likely as part of Top Rank's ongoing boxing series on UniMas.

The problem, as explained by Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, is Margarito insistence to get paid a lot of money for a tuneup fight.

Besides his monetary demands, Margarito has to regain his boxing license and it won't be a simple process given his age and past injuries.


Before they even discussed a potential return date, Arum had a top eye specialist examine and medically clear Margarito for a comeback.

But the biggest issue with finalizing his return is the amount of money Margarito is demanding to step back into the ring.


"Margarito has licensing problems and he has to fight tuneup fights for small money. Nobody is going to pay him a lot of money to buy tuneup fights," Arum said. "The eye we checked out completely and a big specialist cleared him."

Arum wants to test the comeback waters in a safe way. Until Margarito proves his current capabilities, Arum will not even consider a top twenty opponent or upgrading Margarito to a TruTV card.

"Forget a top twenty guy and forget TruTV. I'm not going to put him on TruTV not knowing how he's gonna fight. I'll put him in a UniMas fight but he wants a lot of money for a tuneup fight," Arum said.


Arum: Margarito Must Be Realistic With Money Demands



I agree with Arum:yeshrug:


Tornado can get out here with that:camby:
 

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Bradley: Huge Differences Between Atlas, Diaz Camps

Posted by: Keith Idec on 11/6/2015 .


By Keith Idec

Timothy Bradley realized immediately that Teddy Atlas’ training camp was going to be much different than anything he had experienced while working with longtime trainer Joel Diaz.

Bradley described a more regimented, rules-oriented camp when he was asked about those differences during a conference call Wednesday. The two-division world champion, who’ll battle Brandon Rios in a 12-round, 147-pound title fight Saturday night in Las Vegas (HBO; 9:30 p.m. ET), likened the experience to a boot camp, yet made it clear that he enjoyed it because he was learning things Bradley believes have made him a better boxer.

“Well, man, there’s a lot of rules in place,” said Bradley, who hired Atlas in early September to replace Diaz. “You better make sure when you walk into camp you better have your cell phone off. You cannot even bring that thing in the gym. That’s the huge difference from Joel’s training camp, because Joel was on his phone half of the time when we were in training camp. So that’s a huge difference. No cell phones allowed in the gym. And if you do have one, it better be off.

“Two, there’s no music. Zero music. There’s no music in the gym. And that’s great. And no plastic. We don’t use plastic. No plastic at all in the gym. We use the weight the right way. We diet the right way. We do everything right, the right way.”


Atlas places plenty of emphasis on teaching throughout training sessions, during which he is the only person allowed to speak to the fighter he is training.

“Another rule is no one talks but Teddy – no one,” Bradley continued. “No one coaches, no one says anything but Teddy. Teddy’s the one that’s training me. It’s his responsibility to get me ready. Teddy says everything. No one says anything at all. They just follow directions. That’s what they do, all right? So those are the rules.

“It’s a huge, huge difference [from] a Joel Diaz training camp. It’s full focus, curfew’s at 10 o’clock. I talked to Teddy during the day probably four or five times during the day – texting or maybe even calling. He stays in contact with me as far as my diet, as far as my running, as far as everything. Yeah, it is boot camp. It is boot camp and it’s the right way to be, especially at the professional level. But that’s just a few things right there. I mean, I could go on and on and on and on and on. But that’s just a few things, man, that [are] a huge difference in the camp.”


The heavily favored Bradley (32-1-1, 12 KOs, 1 NC), of Palm Springs, California, will defend his WBO welterweight title against Rios (33-2-1, 24 KOs), of Oxnard, California, at UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center.



Bradley: Huge Differences Between Atlas, Diaz Camps



After all this self hype he's doing, hyping up how good the training camp and what a difference Teddy Atlas has made for him, he better look GREAT on Saturday:ufdup:
 

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Bradley Guarantees Virtuouso Performance Versus Rios

Posted by: Jake Donovan on 11/5/2015 .


By Jake Donovan

As Timothy Bradley Jr. and Brandon Rios prepare for their welterweight clash this weekend, most experts seem divided on the outcome.

It's not because it's regarded as a 50/50 fight - quite the opposite, as Bradley is upwards of a 5-1 favorite according to some sportsbooks. Rather, it's due to which version of the two-time and defending welterweight titlist will show up for their HBO-televised headliner this weekend at Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas (Saturday, 9:30 p.m. ET).

Rios (33-2-1, 24KOs) is generally viewed as a tiger that doesn't change his stripes. The Oxnard, Calif.-based slugger loves nothing more than to inflict as much punishment as possible upon whomever is standing in front of him in the ring, even at the cost of taking more punches than he'd prefer.

"You always know what you’ll get with Rios," Bradley (32-1-1, 12KOs) pointed out during a recent media conference call. "He’s predictable and it makes it easier to train for.

“It’s one thing to know that. It’s also another thing to stop that, to counter that relentless pressure. We have to be ready to deal with that pressure for 12 hard rounds. Just because you know what a guy is going to do, it doesn’t automatically mean you can stop it.”

Depending on which Bradley shows up, most believe it will either be an easy night’s work for the former 140 lb. champ and two-time welterweight titlist, or he will find a way to turn a boxing match into a brawl. It’s happened plenty of times in the past for the always sculpted Californian, whom Rios describes as a “brawler-boxer” rather than a skilled stylist.

Bradley isn’t necessarily insulted by the term, nor does he believe he is without flaw. It served as the motivating reason behind his walking away from a longtime relationship with trainer Joel Diaz in favor of Teddy Atlas, a far more polarizing figure whom some questioned what he brings to the table these days outside of a sideshow element.

“Teddy has done all the right things in the past seven weeks to help me prepare for that,” Bradley says of breaking bad habits and focusing on the game plan. “I made a promise to myself, I made a promise to Teddy – we’re not just going to be tough, but we’re (also) going to be tough mentally.

“Constantly, Teddy has been drilling me in training camp to follow the game plan and implementing good habits to bring into the ring. If you drop your hands in training camp, at some point in the fight you’re probably going to drop your hands in the ring. Teddy is a teacher, he’s a motivator. It don’t get any better than Teddy. You guys are going to see it in my skills on Saturday. After Saturday night, I will be able to say hands down Teddy is the best trainer in the world.”

The fight is being advertised as a potential Fight of the Year contender. If Bradley has his way, it won’t come even close to that, as such candidates normally require sustained two-way action.

“[The fans] gonna see only one fighter in this fight,” he insists. “That’s Timothy Bradley.”



Bradley Guarantees Virtuouso Performance Versus Rios



Better be a great performance:ufdup:
 

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BATB needs to :camby: with the shade he's throwing at Diaz, that man made him a champion.

That being said, I think Bradley wants to fight more like Tyson :huhldup: and thus, his desire to work with Atlas. The main issue with him has been his ankles/feet getting hurt due to his pivoting movement, and how that affects him in later rounds and even other fights. If Atlas can only get his pivot going again, it'd be a smooth transition, but that's no small feat to ask.
 

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Pat I was at the fight too and Postol is just as bad as Choc says
He was getting tagged by a :trash:he chose, he was holding and looking over at his corner like :francis: and arguing with them between rounds

Postol isn't good and Matthysse lost to someone as bad as Postol because he's not meant to have a belt :Belts On Belts:

again you guys are making a generalization of postol off 1 fight that you saw live. postol-lucas is not a martinez-alexander situation in the least. we will see how postol's career plays out as champion
 

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Arum: Margarito Must Be Realistic With Money Demands

Posted by: Rick Reeno on 11/6/2015 .


By Rick Reeno

Wynn Resort & Casino, Las Vegas - During the summer, former welterweight champion Antonio Margarito announced that he was going to unretired and fight again in the near future.

Margarito (38-8, 27KOs), 37-years-old, has been away from the ring for nearly four years.

He was forced to retire after suffering a serious eye injury in his decision loss to Manny Pacquiao in November 2010.

After losing to Pacquiao and having to go through a thorough post-surgery recovery for the eye injury, he returned in December 2011 and was stopped in nine rounds by Miguel Cotto. In the early rounds of that rematch, Margarito's injured eye began to swell rapidly and it ultimately led to a ringside physician advising the referee to stop the fight.

Margarito had hoped to return on a date in December, likely as part of Top Rank's ongoing boxing series on UniMas.

The problem, as explained by Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, is Margarito insistence to get paid a lot of money for a tuneup fight.

Besides his monetary demands, Margarito has to regain his boxing license and it won't be a simple process given his age and past injuries.


Before they even discussed a potential return date, Arum had a top eye specialist examine and medically clear Margarito for a comeback.

But the biggest issue with finalizing his return is the amount of money Margarito is demanding to step back into the ring.


"Margarito has licensing problems and he has to fight tuneup fights for small money. Nobody is going to pay him a lot of money to buy tuneup fights," Arum said. "The eye we checked out completely and a big specialist cleared him."

Arum wants to test the comeback waters in a safe way. Until Margarito proves his current capabilities, Arum will not even consider a top twenty opponent or upgrading Margarito to a TruTV card.

"Forget a top twenty guy and forget TruTV. I'm not going to put him on TruTV not knowing how he's gonna fight. I'll put him in a UniMas fight but he wants a lot of money for a tuneup fight," Arum said.


Arum: Margarito Must Be Realistic With Money Demands



I agree with Arum:yeshrug:


Tornado can get out here with that:camby:

well at least they are not throwing him in the ring with angulo like i heard before because that would be stupid. still a mistake throwing him in the ring with his issues
 

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Roach: Adrien Broner is a Nice Guy, He's No Bullsh*t

Posted by: Radio Rahim on 11/6/2015 .


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Last week, the headlines were flying when Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach posted a surprising photo to social media. In the photo, Roach was standing side by side with four division world Adrien "The Problem" Broner.

Rumors began to circulate that Roach and Broner would soon begin a working relationship.

Those rumors were quickly shot down by Broner's current trainer and father-figure, Mike Stafford.

Roach spoke to BoxingScene.com and says Broner is an old friend who came to visit him at the Wild Card Boxing Club in Hollywood, California.

Broner, because of his antics inside and outside the ring, is widely viewed as a very controversial character.

Roach, however, has a completely different take. He says the Broner he knows personally is not the same guy who often raises eyebrows with his wild behavior.

"Adrien Broner when I met him it was his third pro fight and he's a real nice guy. He's really polite and nice to me. One of my fighters was having trouble making weight, so I took him over to the sauna and he came with us. Adrien said 'Freddie, how long is he going to be in there?' And I said 'about a half hour, he needs to lose at least two pounds.' And then he said 'well, I'm going to go in there with him," Roach told BoxingScene.com.

"So I said, 'are you fighting?' And he said 'yes.' I said 'are you overweight?' And he said 'no, I just don't think he should be in there by himself.' I said 'wow, he is a real nice guy.' He went in there and stayed with my fighter for 20, 25 minutes and kept him company in there."

"I know a lot has changed since then, but to me he's still that same person. He's very polite, very cordial. He's a nice guy around me, he's no bullsh*t.'



Roach: Adrien Broner is a Nice Guy, He's No Bullsh*t



Freddie Roach trying to take Stafford's spot like Flash from the Heartbeats:heh:
 

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Of course donaire has a shot of beating Lomachenko. Donaire has the power to do it...but dude's emotional state has been too up and down...he needs to have that fire back if it happens
Donaire is a real one, that is why I like him. Dude takes on the hard fights. He also is (last time I heard) the only boxer fully enrolled with VADA where he can be tested 24/7, 365, whether he is fighting or not. Word to @Newzz . But he has been slipping a bit. His passion hasn't been there and he has looked slower the last couple years. Seems like he is out of his prime.

However to your point, he can win. Dude was giving Walters everything he could handle until the huge size disparity caught up with him. That won't be an issue vs. Lomachenko. The issue is I think Loma is too good...odds are I expect Loma to win, but anything can happen, Nonito has a left hook that can hurt anyone.
 

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Arum: Margarito Must Be Realistic With Money Demands

Posted by: Rick Reeno on 11/6/2015 .


By Rick Reeno

Wynn Resort & Casino, Las Vegas - During the summer, former welterweight champion Antonio Margarito announced that he was going to unretired and fight again in the near future.

Margarito (38-8, 27KOs), 37-years-old, has been away from the ring for nearly four years.

He was forced to retire after suffering a serious eye injury in his decision loss to Manny Pacquiao in November 2010.

After losing to Pacquiao and having to go through a thorough post-surgery recovery for the eye injury, he returned in December 2011 and was stopped in nine rounds by Miguel Cotto. In the early rounds of that rematch, Margarito's injured eye began to swell rapidly and it ultimately led to a ringside physician advising the referee to stop the fight.

Margarito had hoped to return on a date in December, likely as part of Top Rank's ongoing boxing series on UniMas.

The problem, as explained by Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, is Margarito insistence to get paid a lot of money for a tuneup fight.

Besides his monetary demands, Margarito has to regain his boxing license and it won't be a simple process given his age and past injuries.


Before they even discussed a potential return date, Arum had a top eye specialist examine and medically clear Margarito for a comeback.

But the biggest issue with finalizing his return is the amount of money Margarito is demanding to step back into the ring.


"Margarito has licensing problems and he has to fight tuneup fights for small money. Nobody is going to pay him a lot of money to buy tuneup fights," Arum said. "The eye we checked out completely and a big specialist cleared him."

Arum wants to test the comeback waters in a safe way. Until Margarito proves his current capabilities, Arum will not even consider a top twenty opponent or upgrading Margarito to a TruTV card.

"Forget a top twenty guy and forget TruTV. I'm not going to put him on TruTV not knowing how he's gonna fight. I'll put him in a UniMas fight but he wants a lot of money for a tuneup fight," Arum said.


Arum: Margarito Must Be Realistic With Money Demands



I agree with Arum:yeshrug:


Tornado can get out here with that:camby:


Only a moron would agree with arum. Margarito is still a mexican who was a champion and the biggest threat at one point. He's furious margacheato knows his worth. He's doing numbers no matter who he fights.

With that said, fukk that cheating fakkit :camby:
 

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Donaire is a real one, that is why I like him. Dude takes on the hard fights. He also is (last time I heard) the only boxer fully enrolled with VADA where he can be tested 24/7, 365, whether he is fighting or not. Word to @Newzz . But he has been slipping a bit. His passion hasn't been there and he has looked slower the last couple years. Seems like he is out of his prime.

However to your point, he can win. Dude was giving Walters everything he could handle until the huge size disparity caught up with him. That won't be an issue vs. Lomachenko. The issue is I think Loma is too good...odds are I expect Loma to win, but anything can happen, Nonito has a left hook that can hurt anyone.

I agree.

Donaire isn't sometype of no hoper against Loma. Loma's really skilled, but Donaire is also really good himself.
 

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Only a moron would agree with arum. Margarito is still a mexican who was a champion and the biggest threat at one point. He's furious margacheato knows his worth. He's doing numbers no matter who he fights.

With that said, fukk that cheating fakkit :camby:


You sound crazy. Margarito aint doing no numbers coming back and is 100% washed up. What do you mean "knows his worth"? He's not "worth" anything right now. He's a washed up former Champion from the mid 20000 - late 2000s, who has a severe eye injury, and hasn't fought in 4 years come December & will be 38 in March.


There's no market and demand for the return of Margarito, and most Boxing people think of him as just a cheater....as you said in your last sentence yourself:ufdup:


That would be stupid for Arum to pay him a lot of money to fight a tuneup on UniMas, let's be serious:comeon:


Nobody knows WHAT type of Boxing condition he is. Only 1 person can pull off a 4 year layoff and bounce back like he never left......






































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And he wasn't damn near 38 years old either:birdman:





Arum is right:birdman:
 
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