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It's a BIG difference than doing it one time.....and doing it in 8 of your last 14 bouts:comeon:


There's a reason why Moses is The Catchweight King:usure:
He didn't do it 8 times though. You dont have to resort to lying to make a point..

Only times he ever made someone come down lower than the weight they were at was against Cotto (1 pound) and Margarito (4lbs)

Marquez asked for the CW in the 3rd fight

De La Hoya and Pacquiao agreed to meet in the middle and 147 was the class they agreed to meet at..

Algieri agreed to meet paquiao in the middle coming up from a smaller weight

Oscar, Clottey, Marquez4th, Bradley 2x, Mosely, Floyd, Rios were all fought at 147 no conditions

How come you have nothing to say about Floyd and his catchweights with Marquez, Canelo, and Maidana??
 

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He didn't do it 8 times though. You dont have to resort to lying to make a point..

8 times in his last 14 fights, he's either fought at a catchweight (Against Cotto, Margarito, & Marquez) or fought an opponent at a weight they haven't fought in years (DLH and Bradley) or never in some cases (Rios, Algieri, and Crawford if it happens).

Broner has only had 1 catchweight in his career. Lying where?:birdman:


All facts:ufdup:


How come you have nothing to say about Floyd and his catchweights with Marquez, Canelo, and Maidana??

What does Floyd have to do with this?:dahell:
 
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After shooting, Terence Crawford transforms from street life to champion fighter
By Mike Coppinger October 22, 2015 9:03 pm




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WBO champion Terence Crawford of Omaha after knocking out Yuriorkis Gamboa in the 9th round , Saturday. (Photo: Chris Farina, Top Rank)


OMAHA — Terence Crawford had just collected his winnings from a neighborhood dice game with his friends and hopped into the driver’s seat of his Brown ‘86 Cutlass Supreme to count the money.

As he was about to speed away, Crawford felt something hit him. It felt like a rock, but a bullet had entered his head, just above the nape of his neck. His friends had gang ties and their rivals had sprayed into the car with automatic weapons over a territorial claim.

Crawford (26-0, 18 KOs), USA TODAY/Boxing Junkie’s No. 8 pound-for-pound fighter, had been shot at many times before, but never hit. Now he was bleeding profusely, but collected himself and insisted he take the wheel en route to the hospital. After all, he trusted himself above anyone else to reach the medical center as quickly as possible. He was there about five hours, stitched up (he had to have his braids cut), then released. His life was saved when the rear windshield expanded the bullet.

At first, Crawford was bent on revenge, but came to his senses after talking with his uncle, a preacher. More so, the 2008 incident awakened the future world champ to a harsh reality: he needed to cut ties with gang-affiliated friends and tighten his circle.

“God gave me a second chance so I had to make the best of it,” Crawford told USA TODAY Sports.


He has become an excellent fighter with knockout power, possesses a high-ring IQ, and strong defense. A few miles from the site of the shooting are several billboards bearing his likeness ahead of his Saturday fight against Canadian Dierry Jean (HBO, 9:30 p.m. ET). One hugs the highway with the caption “Omaha: We Don’t Coast, We K.O.” and shows 2014’s fighter of the year punching a dazed Yuriorkis Gamboa, whom he knocked out in his signature bout last year.

Another shows Crawford interacting with a young boy and says, “Omaha: We Don’t Coast, We Inspire.” As Crawford will tell you, it’s clear he’s put the city on his back, and Omaha has responded, coming out in droves to his two HBO fights in the area.

He will defend his WBO junior welterweight title for the first time and 10,000-plus fans are expected at CenturyLink Center to see live what trainer Brian McIntyre calls Omaha’s professional sports franchise. A much bigger assignment could be just around the corner, though: a date with superstar Manny Pacquiao.

HEAVYWEIGHTS: Jennings vs. Ortiz set for Dec. 19

“I feel like me fighting Pacquiao and beating him would boost my career higher than its ever gonna go,” said Crawford, who collects classic cars. “ … To beat the likes of a Pacquiao, that would put me at pay-per-view status.”

Said Top Rank CEO Bob Arum, Crawford’s promoter: “If he wins (vs. Jean) in a lackadaisical fashion, probably not a big percentage (of getting Pacquiao next). If he wins in a very, very good (entertaining) way, then a higher percentage.”


Crawford, who began boxing when he was 7, came from humble beginnings. Terence Sr. was rarely around as an officer in the Navy. His mother, Deborah, worked full time at places like the since closed Campbell’s Soup factory to provide for Terence and his two older sisters.

The switch-hitting fighter says he “stayed” in trouble growing up. He often got into scraps with classmates, many of whom are now dead or in jail in an area ridden with homicides. Crawford estimates about 10% of the people he grew up with are successful.

“I feel like I have a huge responsibility being that I’m the only one doing it on this type of level, especially in boxing,” said Crawford, who graduated high school after being kicked out of five different schools for fighting, once hospitalized for three days after sustaining cuts on his hand from knocking a kid’s teeth out.

“For them to see me being so successful and still giving back and still the same person that gives them hope or motivation to do whatever it is that they want to do in life.”


Crawford has stayed grounded despite routinely pulling in seven-figure purses. When he’s not training in Colorado Springs, he’s preparing for fights at the B & B Boxing Academy, which he owns with McIntyre.

Eighties music blares as Crawford bounces around the ring with an old-school white headband laughing all the while. The roof appears as if it could collapse any second, insulation showing through massive cracks of the converted agricultural industrial storage warehouse.

He recently acquired the other half of the warehouse, and after it’s cleared of old farming equipment, the entire facility will undergo a $1.2 million renovation, with a weight room, two rings and lots of space for kids. He says he’ll never forget his city and will never change, no matter how much success he finds.

“I keep it that way to give the other kids around here hope,” Crawford said, “belief that they can make something out of nothing like I did. The kids are our future. … And if we don’t start with the kids, then there’s going to be nothing left.”


The former lightweight champ isn’t just giving back at home, though. He reconnected with his fourth-grade teacher at Skinner Magnet Center, Jamie Nollette, after he saw Facebook pictures of her travels to Africa.

She had been organizing missions through her non-profit “Pipeline Worldwide” to provide clean water through the drilling of wells, medical projects and construction; Crawford wanted to help. He joined Nollette on two-week trips to Uganda and Rwanda in August 2014 and June 2015, and has visited with many of the women and children affected by the tyrant Joseph Kony.


Kony was accused of the abduction of children and women to become child soldiers and sex slaves, and upward of 2 million people were displaced by him from 1986 to 2009, many of their lives forever damaged.

“It impacted me a lot. The things that we have, that they don’t, we take for granted,” said Crawford, who gave out clothes, candy and toys during his time in Africa. “Like water. They drinking out of dirty water that’s on the ground that has tires going over it.

“And they take the water, come home and boil it and that’s the water that they gotta use. And some of them be so thirsty, they drink the water right there. It makes you feel sad and makes you wanna do more to help people, and come and be appreciative of more of what we got. Anybody can donate money, but if you don’t go there and try to be hands on and see it yourself then you’re not really going to understand.”


Nollette now lives in Phoenix but returns to Omaha for Crawford’s fights. She’s amazed at the man he’s become, from the “ornery, disruptive” boy who wore camouflage outfits every day, to the world champion he is today.

He even flew in their tour guide, Apollo Karubaga, for his victory over Ray Beltran in November, a “life-changing experience” for someone who had never left Uganda before.

“Terence represents what’s possible,” she said. “He’s an alternative to street life, and a lot of these kids … (coming to the gym) is just an opportunity to be off the streets. I don’t know that they’re all going to be world champions, but they see that they can have a better life.”



After shooting, Terence Crawford transforms from street life to champion fighter




@hyperman25 Terence "Bullet Head" Crawford:heh:



But forreal, this is some good insight into his backstory. Gotta root for a brother from the hood, who made it out, and is trying to give back to the community/kids:obama:
 

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This reminds me of @Mook's thread on Dominicans in boxing:heh:

nikka's team is trash. I shyt on Arum but he would have made 97g(@LeVraiPapi :wow: ) a legit star by now.





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The Gennady Golovkin-David Lemieux middleweight title unification fight on Saturday night at Madison Square Garden in New York generated "just over" 150,000 pay-per-view buys, K2 Promotions managing director Tom Loeffler told ESPN.com on Thursday night.

The HBO PPV fight, which Golovkin (34-0, 31 KOs), a Kazakhstan native living in Los Angeles, won by dominant eighth-round knockout of Montreal's Lemieux (34-3, 31KOs) to unify 160-pound world titles, was the first pay-per-view appearance for both fighters. The pay-per-view generated more than $8 million in revenue.

New York Mets and Chicago Cubs -- involving two huge markets -- the fight suffered, Loeffler said.

"I thought it would have a good chance to break 200,000, but with all the college football games and no way to predict the Mets would be playing the Cubs -- a high-end playoff series -- it was tough," he said. "A lot of people were watching baseball in those big markets, but overall, we were happy with the event. When you can sell every single ticket to Madison Square Garden and generate a gate of over $2 million, you're happy."

HBO Sports senior vice president Mark Taffet, who runs HBO PPV, said the event was a strong first-time pay-per-view effort for Golovkin, regarded by many as a future face of boxing in the wake of Floyd Mayweather's retirement last month.

"Golovkin-Lemieux met or exceeded every benchmark of success which was set going into the event," Taffet told ESPN.com. "The PPV buys solidly met expectations even amidst the Mets-Cubs national telecast registering the highest-ever TBS baseball playoff viewership, including the PPV-critical markets of New York and Chicago. This, combined with the palpable excitement of the sold-out crowd in Madison Square Garden and the in-ring performances by Gennady Golovkin and [co-feature winner Roman] 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez, encourage us that the next great era of boxing has begun and will continue with the highly-anticipated [Miguel] Cotto-Canelo [Alvarez)] megafight on Nov. 21."

Loeffler said he knew he was taking a risk by putting Golovkin on pay-per-view, especially against an opponent who had only appeared once previously on HBO and did not have a big name in the United States.

"But we've always taken risks to get Gennady where he's at," Loeffler. "And so we thought it was the right step at this point. It was worth it. We generated a lot of money with the pay-per-view, delay rights from HBO, the closed circuit and the international revenue.

"A lot of people focus on the American market, but he had one of the highest rated international shows in the U.K. on BoxNation, on SAT.1 in Germany and the biggest channel in Russia. He was also on Polsat, the biggest channel in Poland, for the first time. And on top of that, the Garden told us we broke the merchandise record for any boxing event there: over $122,000."

Loeffler said Golovkin will continue to appear on HBO as well as on HBO PPV, depending on the level of fight.

"He is the type of fighter who can fight on HBO and still have a significant budget or have a big fight on pay-per-view," Loeffler said. "I thought we gave the fans a lot of value with considering the ticket prices and the price of the pay-per-view. It was their first time on pay-per-view, and even though we thought it might break 200,000, we certainly don't look at it as a negative. The fight still generated more than the license fee would have been from HBO, and the international sales were very strong, as were our sponsorships."

HBO will replay the fight, along with the co-feature -- flyweight champion and pound-for-pound king Gonzalez (44-0, 38 KOs) scoring a ninth-round knockout of former unified titleholder Brian Viloria (36-5, 22 KOs) - on Saturday night (9:30 ET/PT). The replays will precede live coverage of junior welterweight titlist Terence Crawford (26-0, 18 KOs), the 2014 fighter of the year, making the first defense against Montreal-based Hatian Dierry Jean (29-1, 20 KOs) at the CenturyLink Center in Crawford's hometown of Omaha, Nebraska.


Gennady Golovkin-David Lemieux bout generates about 150,000 pay-per-view buys



Now all of a sudden, only 150k was needed to be a success...how convenient:comeon::camby:



@ChocolateGiddyUp they broke the record for most merchandise sold!!!!:whoo::krs::whew:



:russ::mjlol:



These spins from Team GGG and HBO taste delicious:ohlawd:


:ahh:

Because GGG wants to be a ppv star even if he "claims" he's just belt chasing

GGG will make that weight becasue he needs Cotto/Canelo

Cotto/Canelo dont need GGG

:francis:

his team and his stans live on another planet man, even after this humbling they're still talking crazy. :dead:


"Canelo needs to see us at 160lbs!"

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He whopped my ass for 2 rounds :damn:

He got crazy stamina , strong, just a different level , and I've sparred other former pros but this was different . I was legit scared, tremblin in my timbalands :to:

I got a few good shots in but my nerves were all fukked up and I was gassed and feeling 1 ton heavier after 1 round :wtf:
I hit him with something and I saw blood spill out his mouth.... only thing on my mind was ".......I'm dead......" :whoa:
Some of these guys are completely out of my league but I try to hold my own.

No excuses though , I'm just glad I got through it :whew:

vids? :lupe:







Make it happen:blessed:


Lara keeps calling out GGG....even willing to go to 160 from his own mouth:blessed:


Problem is gonna be, can Lara fight on HBO though:patrice:



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Waits for GGG to not take this fight.....and then complain about lack of opponents, because people are scared of him:sas2:



Lara said he'd even fight this nikka in Kazakhstan:russ:



:ohlawd:



HBO approved Lara as an opponent at the beginning of the year so they can't use any of the "Haymon fighter" excuses. :sas1:

I think 97g (@LeVraiPapi :wow:) beats Lara but I don't think they will fight him.



Deotay Wilder fighting an unknown euro does between 2-3 million views competing against primetime college football and thats shytted on but GGG sells
less than 100k going up against fukking baseball and its all good :mjlol:


I'm out here feeling like Ellerbe since the #s came out

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:takedat:
 

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He didn't do it 8 times though. You dont have to resort to lying to make a point..

Only times he ever made someone come down lower than the weight they were at was against Cotto (1 pound) and Margarito (4lbs)

Marquez asked for the CW in the 3rd fight

De La Hoya and Pacquiao agreed to meet in the middle and 147 was the class they agreed to meet at..

Algieri agreed to meet paquiao in the middle coming up from a smaller weight

Oscar, Clottey, Marquez4th, Bradley 2x, Mosely, Floyd, Rios were all fought at 147 no conditions

How come you have nothing to say about Floyd and his catchweights with Marquez, Canelo, and Maidana??

Algieri was begging to have the fight at 147 Manny wanted the CW

Rios had barely moved up to 140 then was brought up to 147... but he's fat N Bob was scary Rios couldn't make 140...so no big deal

JMM isn't close to being a 147 fighter so them catchweights to me get a pass ...they was both comfortable

There was no catchweights for Maidana tho
 

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After shooting, Terence Crawford transforms from street life to champion fighter
By Mike Coppinger October 22, 2015 9:03 pm




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WBO champion Terence Crawford of Omaha after knocking out Yuriorkis Gamboa in the 9th round , Saturday. (Photo: Chris Farina, Top Rank)


OMAHA — Terence Crawford had just collected his winnings from a neighborhood dice game with his friends and hopped into the driver’s seat of his Brown ‘86 Cutlass Supreme to count the money.

As he was about to speed away, Crawford felt something hit him. It felt like a rock, but a bullet had entered his head, just above the nape of his neck. His friends had gang ties and their rivals had sprayed into the car with automatic weapons over a territorial claim.

Crawford (26-0, 18 KOs), USA TODAY/Boxing Junkie’s No. 8 pound-for-pound fighter, had been shot at many times before, but never hit. Now he was bleeding profusely, but collected himself and insisted he take the wheel en route to the hospital. After all, he trusted himself above anyone else to reach the medical center as quickly as possible. He was there about five hours, stitched up (he had to have his braids cut), then released. His life was saved when the rear windshield expanded the bullet.

At first, Crawford was bent on revenge, but came to his senses after talking with his uncle, a preacher. More so, the 2008 incident awakened the future world champ to a harsh reality: he needed to cut ties with gang-affiliated friends and tighten his circle.

“God gave me a second chance so I had to make the best of it,” Crawford told USA TODAY Sports.


He has become an excellent fighter with knockout power, possesses a high-ring IQ, and strong defense. A few miles from the site of the shooting are several billboards bearing his likeness ahead of his Saturday fight against Canadian Dierry Jean (HBO, 9:30 p.m. ET). One hugs the highway with the caption “Omaha: We Don’t Coast, We K.O.” and shows 2014’s fighter of the year punching a dazed Yuriorkis Gamboa, whom he knocked out in his signature bout last year.

Another shows Crawford interacting with a young boy and says, “Omaha: We Don’t Coast, We Inspire.” As Crawford will tell you, it’s clear he’s put the city on his back, and Omaha has responded, coming out in droves to his two HBO fights in the area.

He will defend his WBO junior welterweight title for the first time and 10,000-plus fans are expected at CenturyLink Center to see live what trainer Brian McIntyre calls Omaha’s professional sports franchise. A much bigger assignment could be just around the corner, though: a date with superstar Manny Pacquiao.

HEAVYWEIGHTS: Jennings vs. Ortiz set for Dec. 19

“I feel like me fighting Pacquiao and beating him would boost my career higher than its ever gonna go,” said Crawford, who collects classic cars. “ … To beat the likes of a Pacquiao, that would put me at pay-per-view status.”

Said Top Rank CEO Bob Arum, Crawford’s promoter: “If he wins (vs. Jean) in a lackadaisical fashion, probably not a big percentage (of getting Pacquiao next). If he wins in a very, very good (entertaining) way, then a higher percentage.”


Crawford, who began boxing when he was 7, came from humble beginnings. Terence Sr. was rarely around as an officer in the Navy. His mother, Deborah, worked full time at places like the since closed Campbell’s Soup factory to provide for Terence and his two older sisters.

The switch-hitting fighter says he “stayed” in trouble growing up. He often got into scraps with classmates, many of whom are now dead or in jail in an area ridden with homicides. Crawford estimates about 10% of the people he grew up with are successful.

“I feel like I have a huge responsibility being that I’m the only one doing it on this type of level, especially in boxing,” said Crawford, who graduated high school after being kicked out of five different schools for fighting, once hospitalized for three days after sustaining cuts on his hand from knocking a kid’s teeth out.

“For them to see me being so successful and still giving back and still the same person that gives them hope or motivation to do whatever it is that they want to do in life.”


Crawford has stayed grounded despite routinely pulling in seven-figure purses. When he’s not training in Colorado Springs, he’s preparing for fights at the B & B Boxing Academy, which he owns with McIntyre.

Eighties music blares as Crawford bounces around the ring with an old-school white headband laughing all the while. The roof appears as if it could collapse any second, insulation showing through massive cracks of the converted agricultural industrial storage warehouse.

He recently acquired the other half of the warehouse, and after it’s cleared of old farming equipment, the entire facility will undergo a $1.2 million renovation, with a weight room, two rings and lots of space for kids. He says he’ll never forget his city and will never change, no matter how much success he finds.

“I keep it that way to give the other kids around here hope,” Crawford said, “belief that they can make something out of nothing like I did. The kids are our future. … And if we don’t start with the kids, then there’s going to be nothing left.”


The former lightweight champ isn’t just giving back at home, though. He reconnected with his fourth-grade teacher at Skinner Magnet Center, Jamie Nollette, after he saw Facebook pictures of her travels to Africa.

She had been organizing missions through her non-profit “Pipeline Worldwide” to provide clean water through the drilling of wells, medical projects and construction; Crawford wanted to help. He joined Nollette on two-week trips to Uganda and Rwanda in August 2014 and June 2015, and has visited with many of the women and children affected by the tyrant Joseph Kony.


Kony was accused of the abduction of children and women to become child soldiers and sex slaves, and upward of 2 million people were displaced by him from 1986 to 2009, many of their lives forever damaged.

“It impacted me a lot. The things that we have, that they don’t, we take for granted,” said Crawford, who gave out clothes, candy and toys during his time in Africa. “Like water. They drinking out of dirty water that’s on the ground that has tires going over it.

“And they take the water, come home and boil it and that’s the water that they gotta use. And some of them be so thirsty, they drink the water right there. It makes you feel sad and makes you wanna do more to help people, and come and be appreciative of more of what we got. Anybody can donate money, but if you don’t go there and try to be hands on and see it yourself then you’re not really going to understand.”


Nollette now lives in Phoenix but returns to Omaha for Crawford’s fights. She’s amazed at the man he’s become, from the “ornery, disruptive” boy who wore camouflage outfits every day, to the world champion he is today.

He even flew in their tour guide, Apollo Karubaga, for his victory over Ray Beltran in November, a “life-changing experience” for someone who had never left Uganda before.

“Terence represents what’s possible,” she said. “He’s an alternative to street life, and a lot of these kids … (coming to the gym) is just an opportunity to be off the streets. I don’t know that they’re all going to be world champions, but they see that they can have a better life.”



After shooting, Terence Crawford transforms from street life to champion fighter




@hyperman25 Terence "Bullet Head" Crawford:heh:



But forreal, this is some good insight into his backstory. Gotta root for a brother from the hood, who made it out, and is trying to give back to the community/kids:obama:


bullethead just like godfather hagler.:banderas::mjlol:


yep i knew crawford had a street pedigree to a certain extent , hence the name killa krawford.:wow:

i aint know that nikka was hood gang -bangin though :ohhh:


glad he tryna turn his life around though .....funny him n AB got similar backstories:mjcry:
 

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bullethead just like godfather hagler.:banderas::mjlol:


yep i knew crawford had a street pedigree to a certain extent , hence the name killa krawford.:wow:

i aint know that nikka was hood gang -bangin though :ohhh:


glad he tryna turn his life around though .....funny him n AB got similar backstories:mjcry:


Im happy his story is starting to come out. They were acting like he was just some humble lame named "Bud" from Nebraska who stayed to himself, but turns out, he's about that street life....braided up, shooting dice & gambling with the gang related homies, beating nikkas up in school & knocking teeth out, taking shots to the head from the opps and surviving:dead:


The name "Bud" might be for a reason :smoker:


His story is similar to AB's, you're right:obama:
 

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Yall dont member...They talked bout Crawford being hood during his last fight :dwillhuh:


They had him N his family sitting on the front porch telling stories...he knocked a dudes teeth out N got an infection on his hand...Crawfords momma let him suffer before taking him to the ER


***edit

Found the video


I didn't see his last fight or all of Matthysse vs Prov. I was on vacay then.


I never heard that:wow:
 

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All these ppv spin jobs from the media for the #GGGoodboys ppv is pathetic. :snoop:

Just admit ya'll should have built up Lemieux a lil more by having him on HBO or being part of a doubleheader with Golovkin a couple times or etc.., but nikkas is so quick to try and make stars and create ppv clout for future fights that they jumped the gun and it backfired. I hope they learned their lesson, but I doubt it. That's one of the biggest problems in boxing now, nobody wants to take the time and build up fights anymore. They just want to create random fights and hope they're entertaining and bring in lots of viewers. Hell, I thought the Stevens fight had more hype than the Lemieux bout did.

Makes me think back to when Showtime was slowly building up the fight with Zab/Tyzu. Had them nikkas on the same card, got them interviewing each other after their fights, nikkas talking shyt and basically making it seem like these two just have to fight or 140 division ain't shyt.

nikkas hardly do that anymore. :mjcry:


I hope Crawford keeps winning, so they can eventually build/hype up an opponent for him. In a perfect world, this would be his 3rd or 4th fight this weekend instead of just his 2nd for the whole year.
 
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