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Steve Cunningham on Antonio Tarver’s Positive PED Test: ‘That Man Could Have Killed Me’
By Joseph Santoliquito Oct 21, 2015
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Steve Cunningham had some strong words for Antonio Tarver. | Ed Diller/ DiBella Entertainment


Everyone in boxing is aware of former world cruiserweight champion Steve Cunningham’s special story.

They know the trials “USS Cunningham” has had to endure involving the plight of his 10-year-old daughter Kennedy, who was born with a rare heart defect, hypoplastic left heart syndrome, which shut down the left side of her heart.

Kennedy underwent a heart transplant in December 2014 at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh. It’s a galvanizing reason why Steve fights for his family.

So you can imagine how personal Cunningham took it when the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board (NJSACB) announced that Antonio Tarver tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug for their Aug. 14 WBC heavyweight elimination bout at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J., that resulted in a 12-round draw.

In a statement released by Tarver, he claims: “I have no idea how my urine sample tested positive because I didn't take anything illegal. Either the test was contaminated, or mixed up with another sample. We believe in the process and I will fully comply. Further analysis will prove I’m 100 percent innocent because I’ve done nothing wrong.”

This is the second time Tarver has tested positive. In 2012, the 46-year-old grandfather failed a drug test in California for the steroid drostanalone after a draw with Lateef Kayode in Carson, Calif.

The California State Athletic Commission levied a one-year suspension against Tarver, who also lost his TV commentating job at Showtime over what he claimed was a “false positive.” Tarver was given the chance to have the “B” sample of that test analyzed if he wanted to appeal. Instead, Tarver chose not fight again for 17 months.

In the buildup for the fight against Cunningham, “The Magic Man” blared to anyone willing to listen that he had been through “hell” the last two years of his life.

But Cunningham didn’t want to hear then, and certainly doesn’t want to hear any excuses now. He’s livid-- and he’s not afraid to let Tarver know how he’s taken this latest positive test as a risk to not only his livelihood as a professional fighter, but as a direct threat to his family and children.

Cunningham first heard Monday morning that Tarver failed his drug test.

“I had a feeling something was up when I brought up the fact that we’re going to be tested in the press tour and he kind of got bothered by that,” Cunningham said. “When a guy gets caught, you have a track record, you have a history. In my book, once you get caught once, you should never be allowed to fight again in the sport.

“In this sport, we’re already super human without taking anything. We shape and work our bodies to kill someone in the ring-- without any illegal drugs. If you boost yourself up even more, it gives you the threat of killing someone ever greater. Guys should be banned for life if they’re caught once using PEDs.

“That man could have killed me. I’m very angry to hear his positive test. I commentated on the Prichard Colon fight against Terrel Williams. You have a normal fighting guy like Williams that put Colon in a coma. Williams wasn’t on anything. He fought a clean fight. It shows how dangerous boxing can be. I hope the best for Colon and he’s in my prayers, but he’ll never be the same again.

“Then I find out Tarver tested positive. He wanted to take out the father of this little girl, my daughter, who everyone in boxing has been praying for, and my other kids. That’s the way I see it. I really take it personally what he tried to do. It’s a selfish, vindictive, evil thing. Tarver has no respect for boxing, or the other fighters in the sport. He has no morals. He only cares about himself.”


Cunningham wants steeper fines for positive tests. Tarver (31-6-1, 22 KOs, 1 NC) says he plans to appeal the positive result. If he loses, the draw with Cunningham (28-7-1, 13 KOs) would be changed to a no-contest.

“People know my stance, and I’ve said that if any fighter tests positive against me, I’ll file a suit on them for attempted murder, or aggravated assault,” Cunningham said. “You know you willingly took this, you know the rules. You’re trying to hurt me more than the contract allows. I signed the contract that says I will incur injuries, but this super-human strength that allows you to take punches, and give back even harder ones, that’s illegal by law, according to me. He’s been caught once already.

“Here’s the big thing right here, and before me, Antonio Tarver knocked out Johnathon Banks, and knocked out the guy [Mike Sheppard] before that. We have to question every big victory he’s had now. He’s popping up on tests, and this is twice in three years. I know some people spoke about him being a future Hall of Famer. A guy in the Hall of Fame respects the sport. They respect other athletes. This man doesn’t.

“He shouldn’t be allowed around the sport. He tainted himself. He fights just for the money. He wanted a fight with [Wladimir] Klitschko so he could do what he did against me, fight for 30 seconds of each round and swing the judges with his star power. He destroyed his star power with his second failed test, in my opinion. Tarver robbed the fans of a good fight. A liar is very convincing every time he lies.

“He’s 46 with his big belly, and looks like he eats doughnuts and cookies all day. He came into that fight and survived. He got his victory with a draw. It’s the second time with this guy. We need to stop this now. You get caught one time you’re done. The one thing I got is total vindication.”


Cunningham said he doesn’t want a rematch with Tarver. In fact, Cunningham, who walks around at 203 pounds, recently announced that he will be dropping back down to cruiserweight, where he was a two-time IBF champion.

He said he’s aiming to get back in the ring by early January, through Cunningham’s new manager, Al Haymon.

“The judges wouldn’t give me the credit for what I was doing at heavyweight, they didn’t respect me there and instead of being bullheaded, I’m just going back down to cruiserweight,” Cunningham said. “It won’t be anything to lose three or four pounds to fight back at cruiser again. I’m going to stay there. I’ll fight Godzilla if he can make cruiserweight. What I want to do before my career is over is fight on a navy ship, an aircraft carrier, or a naval base, something like that would be special.”

Read more at Steve Cunningham on Antonio Tarver’s Positive PED Test: ‘That Man Could Have Killed Me’



First off, good that he's going back to Cruiserweight. I wish he would've stayed there period.:ehh:


Second, he just spit nothing but truthfulness about Tarver:pacspit:


Third, his very last sentence is exactly what @TheNig, @InvictusAeternusEternus, and @mr. smoke weed were talking about they would do just a few days ago:heh:


Steve Cunningham reading The Ring?:ohhh:
 

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Canelo's not gonna be able to force Cotto to fight at a high pace...as long as Cotto's dictating the pace of the fight i don't see his stamina being a issue.

I agree but I also know Cotto will have to use his legs in this fight. He can't stay in the pocket too long for when Canelo explodes into his combos. That might play a factor in Cotto's stamina. Canelo also likes to go to the body too.
 

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I agree but I also know Cotto will have to use his legs in this fight. He can't stay in the pocket too long for when Canelo explodes into his combos. That might play a factor in Cotto's stamina. Canelo also likes to go to the body too.

Never throws a combo without going to the body:banderas:
 

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Make it happen:blessed:


Lara keeps calling out GGG....even willing to go to 160 from his own mouth:blessed:


Problem is gonna be, can Lara fight on HBO though:patrice:



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Waits for GGG to not take this fight.....and then complain about lack of opponents, because people are scared of him:sas2:



Lara said he'd even fight this nikka in Kazakhstan:russ:



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facing a pro..you have to pray that they are not in the business of hurting amateurs or going to war sparring :francis:
I've witnessed some beatings he's put out. :why:
I can't get a complete reading on him due to language barriers , but I know enough to know he's kind but not to be fukked with.

I'm no tough guy by ANY stretch, but I can feel when I'm around one. Some people are just born warriors. I wasn't , but I like boxing :pachaha:
 
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Steve Cunningham on Antonio Tarver’s Positive PED Test: ‘That Man Could Have Killed Me’
By Joseph Santoliquito Oct 21, 2015
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Steve Cunningham had some strong words for Antonio Tarver. | Ed Diller/ DiBella Entertainment


Everyone in boxing is aware of former world cruiserweight champion Steve Cunningham’s special story.

They know the trials “USS Cunningham” has had to endure involving the plight of his 10-year-old daughter Kennedy, who was born with a rare heart defect, hypoplastic left heart syndrome, which shut down the left side of her heart.

Kennedy underwent a heart transplant in December 2014 at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh. It’s a galvanizing reason why Steve fights for his family.

So you can imagine how personal Cunningham took it when the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board (NJSACB) announced that Antonio Tarver tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug for their Aug. 14 WBC heavyweight elimination bout at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J., that resulted in a 12-round draw.

In a statement released by Tarver, he claims: “I have no idea how my urine sample tested positive because I didn't take anything illegal. Either the test was contaminated, or mixed up with another sample. We believe in the process and I will fully comply. Further analysis will prove I’m 100 percent innocent because I’ve done nothing wrong.”

This is the second time Tarver has tested positive. In 2012, the 46-year-old grandfather failed a drug test in California for the steroid drostanalone after a draw with Lateef Kayode in Carson, Calif.

The California State Athletic Commission levied a one-year suspension against Tarver, who also lost his TV commentating job at Showtime over what he claimed was a “false positive.” Tarver was given the chance to have the “B” sample of that test analyzed if he wanted to appeal. Instead, Tarver chose not fight again for 17 months.

In the buildup for the fight against Cunningham, “The Magic Man” blared to anyone willing to listen that he had been through “hell” the last two years of his life.

But Cunningham didn’t want to hear then, and certainly doesn’t want to hear any excuses now. He’s livid-- and he’s not afraid to let Tarver know how he’s taken this latest positive test as a risk to not only his livelihood as a professional fighter, but as a direct threat to his family and children.

Cunningham first heard Monday morning that Tarver failed his drug test.

“I had a feeling something was up when I brought up the fact that we’re going to be tested in the press tour and he kind of got bothered by that,” Cunningham said. “When a guy gets caught, you have a track record, you have a history. In my book, once you get caught once, you should never be allowed to fight again in the sport.

“In this sport, we’re already super human without taking anything. We shape and work our bodies to kill someone in the ring-- without any illegal drugs. If you boost yourself up even more, it gives you the threat of killing someone ever greater. Guys should be banned for life if they’re caught once using PEDs.

“That man could have killed me. I’m very angry to hear his positive test. I commentated on the Prichard Colon fight against Terrel Williams. You have a normal fighting guy like Williams that put Colon in a coma. Williams wasn’t on anything. He fought a clean fight. It shows how dangerous boxing can be. I hope the best for Colon and he’s in my prayers, but he’ll never be the same again.

“Then I find out Tarver tested positive. He wanted to take out the father of this little girl, my daughter, who everyone in boxing has been praying for, and my other kids. That’s the way I see it. I really take it personally what he tried to do. It’s a selfish, vindictive, evil thing. Tarver has no respect for boxing, or the other fighters in the sport. He has no morals. He only cares about himself.”


Cunningham wants steeper fines for positive tests. Tarver (31-6-1, 22 KOs, 1 NC) says he plans to appeal the positive result. If he loses, the draw with Cunningham (28-7-1, 13 KOs) would be changed to a no-contest.

“People know my stance, and I’ve said that if any fighter tests positive against me, I’ll file a suit on them for attempted murder, or aggravated assault,” Cunningham said. “You know you willingly took this, you know the rules. You’re trying to hurt me more than the contract allows. I signed the contract that says I will incur injuries, but this super-human strength that allows you to take punches, and give back even harder ones, that’s illegal by law, according to me. He’s been caught once already.

“Here’s the big thing right here, and before me, Antonio Tarver knocked out Johnathon Banks, and knocked out the guy [Mike Sheppard] before that. We have to question every big victory he’s had now. He’s popping up on tests, and this is twice in three years. I know some people spoke about him being a future Hall of Famer. A guy in the Hall of Fame respects the sport. They respect other athletes. This man doesn’t.

“He shouldn’t be allowed around the sport. He tainted himself. He fights just for the money. He wanted a fight with [Wladimir] Klitschko so he could do what he did against me, fight for 30 seconds of each round and swing the judges with his star power. He destroyed his star power with his second failed test, in my opinion. Tarver robbed the fans of a good fight. A liar is very convincing every time he lies.

“He’s 46 with his big belly, and looks like he eats doughnuts and cookies all day. He came into that fight and survived. He got his victory with a draw. It’s the second time with this guy. We need to stop this now. You get caught one time you’re done. The one thing I got is total vindication.”


Cunningham said he doesn’t want a rematch with Tarver. In fact, Cunningham, who walks around at 203 pounds, recently announced that he will be dropping back down to cruiserweight, where he was a two-time IBF champion.

He said he’s aiming to get back in the ring by early January, through Cunningham’s new manager, Al Haymon.

“The judges wouldn’t give me the credit for what I was doing at heavyweight, they didn’t respect me there and instead of being bullheaded, I’m just going back down to cruiserweight,” Cunningham said. “It won’t be anything to lose three or four pounds to fight back at cruiser again. I’m going to stay there. I’ll fight Godzilla if he can make cruiserweight. What I want to do before my career is over is fight on a navy ship, an aircraft carrier, or a naval base, something like that would be special.”

Read more at Steve Cunningham on Antonio Tarver’s Positive PED Test: ‘That Man Could Have Killed Me’



First off, good that he's going back to Cruiserweight. I wish he would've stayed there period.:ehh:


Second, he just spit nothing but truthfulness about Tarver:pacspit:


Third, his very last sentence is exactly what @TheNig, @InvictusAeternusEternus, and @mr. smoke weed were talking about they would do just a few days ago:heh:


Steve Cunningham reading The Ring?:ohhh:


His old washed up ass fittin to fight the surviving cast member of Mchale's Navy :pachaha:
 

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What was Oscar the A-sides stipulation?? He had to come down to a weight he hadn't fought in over 7 years in order to make the fight, since Pacquiao would refuse to fight him at 154.

What was Bradley's stipulation?? He had to move up to 147 in order to get the fight.

What was Rios stipulation?? He had to move up to 147 in order to get the fight.



Porter could've fought AB at 140, he didn't want to go that low. AB could've fought Porter at 147, we didn't want to go that high. We then agreed to face each other at a catchweight....AB's 1st catchweight of his career, unlike Moses Pacquiao aka The Catchweight King:umad:


Also, call fights pitting top fighters against top fighters pointless brehs:camby:

So Pacquiao fighting someone coming from 140 at the full welterweight limit.. thats a stipulation to you?? They had to move up to 147 to get the fight??

Well if he meets them in the middle why the criticism?? I dont get it..

Rios and Bradley had no stipulation.. stop trolling..

And the same logic you gave me for why Buiscuits and Porter fought at a catchweight can be applied to Pac/Oscar, and Pac/Margarito.. its cool keep hating breh
 

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Very funny when I read all the excuses the 97G team is making. Now all of a sudden the cost didn't hurt their pocket and they wanted to watch boxing ? Meanwhile they had 100 reasons as to why they didn't buy Floyd Berto or why Ward flopped on BET.

Please stop talking about boxing finances you keyboard accountants lol.

They trying to save face. When they were asked what would it take to be successful they said 200k. Not 97k plus hot dogs and the shirts. :stopitslime:

They adding miscellaneous facts like RAW to front like they wasn't struggling. Ol "last week's raw was the most tweeted hashtag between by neckbeards ages 25-36 from 8:57-9:00 pm" ass nikkas. :stopitslime:
 

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i probably could beat every coli ring breh in a match.:pachaha:

on the real i wish i could spar some of these tough guys in general on coli especially the trolls:martin:


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So Pacquiao fighting someone coming from 140 at the full welterweight limit.. thats a stipulation to you?? They had to move up to 147 to get the fight??

Well if he meets them in the middle why the criticism?? I dont get it..

Rios and Bradley had no stipulation.. stop trolling..

And the same logic you gave me for why Buiscuits and Porter fought at a catchweight can be applied to Pac/Oscar, and Pac/Margarito.. its cool keep hating breh

It's a BIG difference than doing it one time.....and doing it in 8 of your last 14 bouts:comeon:


There's a reason why Moses is The Catchweight King:usure:
 

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listening to the latest From Brooklyn To The World and Paulie makes a loooot of sense talking about RJJ's video

"The US.. unfortunately has no nationalistic pride when it comes to their sports, aside from when they knock down a building then all of a sudden everyone's proud to be American. But when there's an American fighter fighting a foreigner, they cheer for whoever they want"

he goes on to say "American culture is weird like that" and that there will be more Americans cheering for Golovkin over Ward and Pacquiao over Mayweather.

And how overall the American "machine" does a bad job marketing American fighters so big foreign fighters automatically come into the market with an advantage. Also drops some good stuff about Ward's situation and how he SHOULD be an American role model but isn't. Can't disagree with any of it.



Paulie Malignaggi: From Brooklyn to the World - Ep 26 starting at 24:30


which reminded me of the US Open a few years ago when Isner dissed American fans who were cheering for Monfils instead of him in an important match in a slam.. Americans are the least loyal and nationalistic sporting culture in the world. Mostly cause we dominate almost every sport so it's not a big deal.. but in actual worldwide sports like boxing, soccer, tennis... American support for their athletes is almost 0.
 
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They trying to save face. When they were asked what would it take to be successful they said 200k. Not 97k plus hot dogs and the shirts. :stopitslime:

They adding miscellaneous facts like RAW to front like they wasn't struggling. Ol "last week's raw was the most tweeted hashtag between by neckbeards ages 25-36 from 8:57-9:00 pm" ass nikkas. :stopitslime:


nikkas spin worse than coli cert accountants and aubrey stans.

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