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Yea nothing wrong with the shape of them gloves at all :francis:

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Rosado Warns Stevens, Questions Golovkin's Gloves

Posted by: Keith Idec on 10/24/2013 .


By Keith Idec

NEW YORK — Gabriel Rosado doesn’t know enough about Curtis Stevens’ skills to offer an informed prediction prior to Stevens’ WBA middleweight title fight against Gennady Golovkin.

Rosado did offer Stevens some advice.

The middleweight contender from Philadelphia suggested Stevens’ team take as close a look as possible at Golovkin’s gloves next week before they square off Nov. 2 in The Theater at Madison Square Garden. Rosado has his own 160-pound championship match to worry about, but he wouldn’t want Stevens (25-3, 18 KOs) to walk away from fighting one of boxing’s most dangerous punchers with doubts similar to those Rosado has nine months after Golovkin stopped him.

“He’s a good puncher,” Rosado said of Golovkin before a news conference Wednesday at B.B. King Blues Club & Grill. “He never really rocked me or anything like that, but he’s a solid puncher. I do believe that his gloves are different than any other fighter that I’ve fought before. I could tell you that right now. We both fought with Grants, but for whatever reason his Grants were missing a little more cushion on the knuckles. And we had a problem with that, and they said that the gloves were approved [by the New York State Athletic Commission].”

Tom Loeffler, Golovkin’s promotional representative, expressed disappointment regarding Rosado’s implication that something wasn’t quite right about Golovkin’s gloves that night. Loeffler, managing director for K2 Promotions, told BoxingScene.com Thursday that Kazakhstan’s Golovkin (27-0, 24 KOs) wears custom-made Grant gloves because the company produces gloves of various colors to match his ring attire (white for the Rosado fight).

“Whatever concerns that Gabe had or that the Rosado team had were addressed with the commission,” Loeffler said. “They inspected the gloves and Grant is an approved maker with the New York commission and there was not an issue with the gloves. So from the commission standpoint, that’s the only thing that I remember in that situation.

“But to go even further than that, Gennady has the highest knockout record of any current champion [89 percent] and he hasn’t used Grant [throughout] his entire career. So whether he was using gloves that were made in Europe, when he was fighting in Germany, or a different brand, he was consistently knocking out opponents. And they would consistently say the same thing, that they had never been hit as hard as Gennady hits. So we’re a little bit disappointed that Gabriel would choose to focus on the gloves, as to there might be some advantage Gennady has with his punching power.”

Rosado (21-6, 13 KOs, 1 NC), who’ll challenge New York’s Peter “Kid Chocolate” Quillin (29-0, 21 KOs) for the WBO middleweight title Saturday night at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, acknowledged in the immediate aftermath of their fight that he has never been hit as hard as Golovkin hit him Jan. 19 in The Theater at Madison Square Garden. Golovkin won their bout by seventh-round technical knockout when a bloodied Rosado’s trainer, Billy Briscoe, threw in the towel.

“When he hit me in the first round, I just felt straight, solid wraps,” Rosado recalled. “It wasn’t like it was just the impact of the glove. It felt like a little bat hitting the top of my head. So Triple-G’s gloves, Grant definitely makes custom gloves for [him]. So Stevens definitely has to look out for that.

“They were 10-ounce gloves, but the weight [of the glove] was probably more on the wrist. I’ve never got cut in a fight. Only by a head-butt, which was four years ago. I got cut twice [over] the same eye in the second round [against Golovkin]. [Matthew] Macklin got cut early in their fight as well. It’s just kind of suspect about them gloves.”

Loeffler disputed Rosado’s contention and said he hadn’t heard Rosado complain about Golovkin’s gloves once their fight ended until Thursday, nine months later.

“In our agreement with Rosado and with [promoter] Russell Peltz,” Loeffler said, “we specifically had in there that they could bring the gloves that they would like, the brand and the model that they would prefer to use, and Gennady would bring the brand that he would prefer to use. Obviously, both [would be] 10-ounce gloves, with the caveat of, in fact, being resealed packaging. So whether Gabe wanted to use Everlast or Reyes or Grant, he could choose whichever brand or model he wanted to use to alleviate any complaints over the promoter bringing gloves that didn’t fit him or he didn’t like. So that was the beginning of the negotiation, which we usually find to make it easier so we don’t run into complaints when they select the gloves.

“When the gloves were opened, there was a comment made [by Rosado] about how the gloves were smaller, or something to that effect. But the New York commission [approved]. They were clearly 10-ounce gloves and if they were smaller gloves, it’s not like the padding is moved [on] a smaller glove from the back to the wrist or anything like that. If you have a smaller glove, it’s really more padding in the front. It’s just Gennady has small hands, so there’s different-sized gloves, although you have to keep the same weight.”

Rosado recalled addressing the glove issue at the weigh-in, but said he didn’t pursue it thereafter.

“We tried [to protest],” Rosado said, “but the fight was the next day and so much bullsh-- was going on that I was just focused on the fight. I guess I really couldn’t put too much thought into it.”



Rosado Warns Stevens, Questions Golovkin's Gloves




“I’m not saying that he’s not fighting with 10-ounce gloves, but when I noticed them, them s–ts were skinny as s–t [across the knuckles.] Mine had more cushion on the knuckles, and his had a little less. When he hit me in the first round, it felt different,” said Rosado, during a roundtable discussion at Caesars Hotel in advance of Saturday night’s clash with WBO 160-pound titleholder Peter “Kid Chocolate” Quillin (29-0, 21 KOs) at Boardwalk Hall.

“He only hit me with a jab, but it felt like a bat hitting the top of my dome. When he hit me, I could straight feel the wraps. You don’t really start feeling the wraps untiil it’s like the ninth or 10th round when the gloves start breaking down and in. But first round, you don’t start feeling the wraps [underneath.] You get hit, you just feel that thud. So when he was hitting me, it was more of that type of an impact. I got cut twice in the same eye. … Them gloves are suspect as s–t … even though they’re not illegal, it is what it is.”


Lem's latest: Rosado calls Golovkin's gloves 'suspect' - Ring TV



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Best I’ve Faced: Michael Nunn

Two-division titleholder, pound-for-pound entrant, boxing superstar, heir-apparent to Sugar Ray Leonard and maximum security prisoner.

His introduction is a shocking paradox but that is life so far for the gifted but flawed Michael “Second To” Nunn. Sentenced to 24 years and four months for drug conspiracy charges in 2004, the 52-year-old ex-champion is currently serving his time at the Hazelton Federal Correctional Institution in Bruceton Mills, W.V.

Now a Muslim-convert and vegetarian, Nunn made poor decisions in his past life and has paid a heavy price for being involved in the purchase of one kilogram of cocaine in Aug. 2002. His sentence was initially due to end in 2028 but new protocol has brought that release date forward to Dec. 2019.

The Davenport, Iowa, native believes he has paid his debt to society and hopes to be released sooner.

As dismal as Nunn’s circumstances may be at present, there is no denying his glorious achievements in the prize ring. The glitzy American was the first product of Ten Goose Boxing, honing his skills under the tutelage of acclaimed coach Joe Goossen. Following a messy split, Nunn would also work with Angelo Dundee but always credited his association with the Goossen family as making him the fighter he became.

In July 1988, Nunn wrenched the IBF middleweight title from Frank Tate via ninth round stoppage. The win solidified his status as one of the finest fighters in the world and, at 25 years old, with 31 straight wins, he was entering his prime years. In his first defense, the future of the 160-pound division would chew up fierce Argentinian power-puncher Juan Domingo Roldan in eight but what came next sent shockwaves through the sport.

Sumbu Kalambay was born in Zaire, Africa and resided in Italy. He was a master technician and, as WBA middleweight titleholder, carried serious momentum with consecutive victories over Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Mike McCallum, Robbie Sims and Doug DeWitt. The famous unanimous decision win over McCallum in March 1988, later avenged by “The Body Snatcher”, is arguably one of the finest demonstrations of pure boxing in the modern era.

Unfortunately, the WBA would strip Kalambay of his title for agreeing to face Nunn but boxing politics could not disguise the obvious. Staged inside the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas, on March 25, 1989, this was a high-stakes meeting between the two best middleweights in the world. Not one person in attendance could have imagined that the glistening gold bell at ringside would only be struck once.

Nunn carried the swagger of a champion sparring a novice; casually warming up his limbs by shaking them nonchalantly as he pursued the target. With just over a minute gone, Kalambay released a left jab which was deflected effortlessly and caught a pulverizing left hook to the jaw which knocked him out before he hit the canvas. This amazing victory was both a blessing and a ruin for Nunn, as projected big-money showdowns with fading legends Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns appeared to vanish as quickly as Kalambay did.

The electrifying finish was voted THE RING Knockout of the Year and it was the pinnacle of Nunn’s professional life. A brace of majority decision wins over Iran Barkley and Marlon Starling was followed by a 10th-round knockout of former pound-for-pound No. 1 Donald Curry; however, a new middleweight force was about to burst the unbeaten champion’s bubble.

James Toney, a boisterous 22-year-old, fighting out of Ann Arbor, MI, fell way behind against Nunn in May 1991. Taking into account the impeccable career “Lights Out” would go on to have, it seems almost unimaginable that he could be made to look foolish at his peak but that was the story in Nunn’s hometown of Davenport. Toney rallied, however, and displaying the durability and cunning that would later become hallmarks, floored the champion with a huge left hand in Round 11. Nunn rose but was in no position to defend himself when referee Dennis Nelson halted the bout.

Despite annexing the WBA super middleweight title from Victor Cordoba in Sept. 1992, the Toney loss appeared to permanently remove some of Nunn’s sparkle. Surprising defeats to Steve Little and Frankie Liles ended his world title ambitions at 168 pounds and a split decision loss to Graciano Rocchigiani, in a vacant WBC light heavyweight title contest, was his last shot at a legitimate championship.

His final bout, before fate and poor choices would irreparably change his life, was a cruiserweight appearance in Jan. 2002.

At his best, Nunn was a swanky and sophisticated stylist with crisp hitting power and opponents frequently had more chance of hitting the lottery than the target. If the 6-foot-2 southpaw performed below par, then he came under the same type of scrutiny that befell the great Pernell Whitaker. Like Whitaker, Nunn was capable of sucking the drama out of a fight but there was no denying his exceptional skill-set.

The former two-division titlist agreed to speak to RingTV.com, via email, about the best opponents he faced in 10 key categories.

BEST SKILLS - Donald Curry: He was wise and sharp. This is a tough one because I came across a lot of good boxers on the way up the ladder.

BEST JAB - Frank Tate: He had a great jab, so I had to stay on top of him from the first round. I won the middleweight championship of the world after a long, hard fight.

BEST DEFENSE – Marlon Starling: To this day, Starling is still asking for a rematch. He was a crafty little man, who was hard to catch cleanly with big shots.

BEST CHIN - lran Barkley: You could hit the guy with a hammer and he was going nowhere. I landed everything I had and he said, ‘Is that all you’ve got, Nunn?’

BEST PUNCHER - Juan Roldan: He was the strongest puncher I faced in my career.

FASTEST HANDS - Carl Jones: He was from Los Angeles and had me down in the first round.

FASTEST FEET - Jones: The only thing faster than Jones’ feet were his hands.

SMARTEST - James Toney: I have to admit, looking back, James Toney was a smart guy in the ring.

STRONGEST - Barkley: For a middleweight, Barkley was exceptionally strong. It was like pounding on a heavyweight. After the weigh-in, he must have gained an extra 20 pounds.

BEST OVERALL - Curry: The best overall game belonged to Donald Curry. He could do a bit of everything.

Best I've Faced: Michael Nunn - Ring TV
Damn shame dude fukked up his life like he did but at least his sentence got reduced
 

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Rosado Warns Stevens, Questions Golovkin's Gloves

Posted by: Keith Idec on 10/24/2013 .


By Keith Idec

NEW YORK — Gabriel Rosado doesn’t know enough about Curtis Stevens’ skills to offer an informed prediction prior to Stevens’ WBA middleweight title fight against Gennady Golovkin.

Rosado did offer Stevens some advice.

The middleweight contender from Philadelphia suggested Stevens’ team take as close a look as possible at Golovkin’s gloves next week before they square off Nov. 2 in The Theater at Madison Square Garden. Rosado has his own 160-pound championship match to worry about, but he wouldn’t want Stevens (25-3, 18 KOs) to walk away from fighting one of boxing’s most dangerous punchers with doubts similar to those Rosado has nine months after Golovkin stopped him.

“He’s a good puncher,” Rosado said of Golovkin before a news conference Wednesday at B.B. King Blues Club & Grill. “He never really rocked me or anything like that, but he’s a solid puncher. I do believe that his gloves are different than any other fighter that I’ve fought before. I could tell you that right now. We both fought with Grants, but for whatever reason his Grants were missing a little more cushion on the knuckles. And we had a problem with that, and they said that the gloves were approved [by the New York State Athletic Commission].”

Tom Loeffler, Golovkin’s promotional representative, expressed disappointment regarding Rosado’s implication that something wasn’t quite right about Golovkin’s gloves that night. Loeffler, managing director for K2 Promotions, told BoxingScene.com Thursday that Kazakhstan’s Golovkin (27-0, 24 KOs) wears custom-made Grant gloves because the company produces gloves of various colors to match his ring attire (white for the Rosado fight).

“Whatever concerns that Gabe had or that the Rosado team had were addressed with the commission,” Loeffler said. “They inspected the gloves and Grant is an approved maker with the New York commission and there was not an issue with the gloves. So from the commission standpoint, that’s the only thing that I remember in that situation.

“But to go even further than that, Gennady has the highest knockout record of any current champion [89 percent] and he hasn’t used Grant [throughout] his entire career. So whether he was using gloves that were made in Europe, when he was fighting in Germany, or a different brand, he was consistently knocking out opponents. And they would consistently say the same thing, that they had never been hit as hard as Gennady hits. So we’re a little bit disappointed that Gabriel would choose to focus on the gloves, as to there might be some advantage Gennady has with his punching power.”

Rosado (21-6, 13 KOs, 1 NC), who’ll challenge New York’s Peter “Kid Chocolate” Quillin (29-0, 21 KOs) for the WBO middleweight title Saturday night at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, acknowledged in the immediate aftermath of their fight that he has never been hit as hard as Golovkin hit him Jan. 19 in The Theater at Madison Square Garden. Golovkin won their bout by seventh-round technical knockout when a bloodied Rosado’s trainer, Billy Briscoe, threw in the towel.

“When he hit me in the first round, I just felt straight, solid wraps,” Rosado recalled. “It wasn’t like it was just the impact of the glove. It felt like a little bat hitting the top of my head. So Triple-G’s gloves, Grant definitely makes custom gloves for [him]. So Stevens definitely has to look out for that.

“They were 10-ounce gloves, but the weight [of the glove] was probably more on the wrist. I’ve never got cut in a fight. Only by a head-butt, which was four years ago. I got cut twice [over] the same eye in the second round [against Golovkin]. [Matthew] Macklin got cut early in their fight as well. It’s just kind of suspect about them gloves.”

Loeffler disputed Rosado’s contention and said he hadn’t heard Rosado complain about Golovkin’s gloves once their fight ended until Thursday, nine months later.

“In our agreement with Rosado and with [promoter] Russell Peltz,” Loeffler said, “we specifically had in there that they could bring the gloves that they would like, the brand and the model that they would prefer to use, and Gennady would bring the brand that he would prefer to use. Obviously, both [would be] 10-ounce gloves, with the caveat of, in fact, being resealed packaging. So whether Gabe wanted to use Everlast or Reyes or Grant, he could choose whichever brand or model he wanted to use to alleviate any complaints over the promoter bringing gloves that didn’t fit him or he didn’t like. So that was the beginning of the negotiation, which we usually find to make it easier so we don’t run into complaints when they select the gloves.

“When the gloves were opened, there was a comment made [by Rosado] about how the gloves were smaller, or something to that effect. But the New York commission [approved]. They were clearly 10-ounce gloves and if they were smaller gloves, it’s not like the padding is moved [on] a smaller glove from the back to the wrist or anything like that. If you have a smaller glove, it’s really more padding in the front. It’s just Gennady has small hands, so there’s different-sized gloves, although you have to keep the same weight.”

Rosado recalled addressing the glove issue at the weigh-in, but said he didn’t pursue it thereafter.

“We tried [to protest],” Rosado said, “but the fight was the next day and so much bullsh-- was going on that I was just focused on the fight. I guess I really couldn’t put too much thought into it.”



Rosado Warns Stevens, Questions Golovkin's Gloves




“I’m not saying that he’s not fighting with 10-ounce gloves, but when I noticed them, them s–ts were skinny as s–t [across the knuckles.] Mine had more cushion on the knuckles, and his had a little less. When he hit me in the first round, it felt different,” said Rosado, during a roundtable discussion at Caesars Hotel in advance of Saturday night’s clash with WBO 160-pound titleholder Peter “Kid Chocolate” Quillin (29-0, 21 KOs) at Boardwalk Hall.

“He only hit me with a jab, but it felt like a bat hitting the top of my dome. When he hit me, I could straight feel the wraps. You don’t really start feeling the wraps untiil it’s like the ninth or 10th round when the gloves start breaking down and in. But first round, you don’t start feeling the wraps [underneath.] You get hit, you just feel that thud. So when he was hitting me, it was more of that type of an impact. I got cut twice in the same eye. … Them gloves are suspect as s–t … even though they’re not illegal, it is what it is.”


Lem's latest: Rosado calls Golovkin's gloves 'suspect' - Ring TV



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@krackdagawd seems B-Hop had more insight he wanted to provide as far as GGG vs Canelo/SOG taking place:wow:


On Canelo vs GGG: “His style is totally different from Lemieux,” said Hopkins, a partner in Golden Boy Promotions, which promotes Lemieux and Alvarez. “His punches are crisper and sharper. He’s been at the big stage with Floyd Mayweather, and I think he learned greatly from that. I think he’ll see this fight and understand that he has to have discipline through a whole 12 rounds of fighting. I see him being a better boxer who can take Triple-G into deep waters and frustrate him.”

On Ward vs GGG: “Andre Ward would confuse him, frustrate him,” Hopkins said. “You’ve got one straight-up guy and you’ve got one guy who knows how to be on angles, knows how to spin and can crack, and has got nice size to him. He’s not a big, tall guy, but Andre has enough power to make you respect him. Andre is an all-around fighter with an Olympic pedigree.”


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