yeah ouma got busted up though...shyt was too much for him
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yeah ouma got busted up though...shyt was too much for him
LinusCaldwell
From The Eastside with Love
Bruce Buffer interview went really well. Dude is dope.
Didn't he used to fight?
LinusCaldwell
From The Eastside with Love
Yes
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
nikkas wanna say everyone in mw division trash/avg/c fighters (which i agree with) but then get mad when we say bumlovkin is king of gggarbage men.
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Here is my question: Rosado brought up the gloves and I know it gets brought up from time to time around here, but what about the checks that go in before they get in the ring?
I guess we could use GGG as a specific example, but I am more referencing boxing as a sport. These are all things I think both fighter camps would be doing:
- Negotiate and agree on gloves
- Make sure the gloves are new from the manufacturer
- Check and approve the new gloves
- Have a guy in their locker room to watch the wraps put on and make sure they are wearing approved gloves
You are getting punched in the face by these gloves, what kind of checks actually happen?
Recently we saw Floyd dispute Maidana's gloves and force a change. We also saw Hopkins say he didn't want Kovalev crushing his padding by putting his gloves on the floor and all his weight on them.
I don't condone cheating, but what kind of precautions are the commission and fighters camps doing?
To bring it back, if Rosado accused GGG of feeling his knuckles through the gloves and he said he was going to tell future opponents, you would think they would do extra due diligence.
That said, I don't see any differences in that picture.
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GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
I don't agree with those rankings. I think the list starts with Ward and Klitschko and you work your way down after that.
Interestingly enough if you go to BoxRec and look at their PFP rankings, which is some complicated point system like (QBR for football) they have:
1. Wlad
2. GGG
3. Canelo
4. Kovalev
5. Pacquiao
6. Cotto
7. Brook
8. Thurman
9. Lara
10. Stevenson
I don't like that list at all.
They have Ward ranked #19 (likely due to points lost for inactivity).
Rigo and Chocolatito 24, 25 respectively.
And add in Tyson Fury being #21. 
You can't Moneyball boxing.
with rosado im calling bullshyt...dude is scapegoating because he took a fight that ended up fukking up his career...rosado had already been ko'ed by angulo...in 2 rounds no less...still the earliest anyone has ever put him away..was there something funny style about the gloves angulo used?..rosado fukked up with the GGG fight and he decided to stay at 160 instead of going back to 154 where he may have had a chance to salvage his career
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
I agree. I've always felt like Rosado was a bit of a sore loser vs. GGG and his claims weren't true. Rosado is a tough guy and he didn't expect or want to get beaten up so badly. Then we saw Charlo and Lemieux do the same thing. Rosado has had a rough last 2 years, he has taken a lot of punishment.
The other thing is that Rosado said that after the fight, but I can't remember him proclaiming it any more (at least every interview I have seen - in fact the last interview I saw he seemed to insinuate that Lemieux hit harder than GGG, but GGG was a better fighter). Seems like if he felt GGG was cheating then now would be a great time to expose him, since he is popular.
Rosado says he feels stronger at 160, but I think the guys there are too big and strong and he is better off getting some W's vs. okay opponents at 154.
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
Yea nothing wrong with the shape of them gloves at all 
Jae
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Its not GGG fault....he seems like a good dude N the nikka has action fights can't hate on that
Its HBO, Lampley, Max, Media N Stans that need to be humbled
Lampley calling GGG an Icon, legend of GGG continues
Stans trying to dismiss other fighters (Kid Choc, Ward) like GGG is a mega draw N above fighting them
Media shytting on other fighters resumes butover GGG... GGG deserves more then 50/50 Over Ward
Muhfukkers saying Mexicans goin ride with GGG over Nelo
N last but not least HBO for putting that giant mismatch on PPV
You wanna build a PPV star?? You don't put the muhfukker against a canadicac whos last fight was on Fox Sports 8
To build a PPV star you put the muhfukker in their with an established star N get the rub that way or You build Lemeuix up to be a killer first... let Lemeuix get at least 2 or 3 title defenses on HBO N another good name on the resume then feed him to GGG
On my show last night Breadman Edwards and Redd (Crawford's trainer) said they pick Ward over Golovkin and Rios over Bradley. Dropped a bunch of other knowledge too. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/badcultureradio/2015/10/21/the-ruckus-boxing-podcast-by-badculturenet
King P
Legends Never Die
Best I’ve Faced: Michael Nunn
Two-division titleholder, pound-for-pound entrant, boxing superstar, heir-apparent to Sugar Ray Leonard and maximum security prisoner.
His introduction is a shocking paradox but that is life so far for the gifted but flawed Michael “Second To” Nunn. Sentenced to 24 years and four months for drug conspiracy charges in 2004, the 52-year-old ex-champion is currently serving his time at the Hazelton Federal Correctional Institution in Bruceton Mills, W.V.
Now a Muslim-convert and vegetarian, Nunn made poor decisions in his past life and has paid a heavy price for being involved in the purchase of one kilogram of cocaine in Aug. 2002. His sentence was initially due to end in 2028 but new protocol has brought that release date forward to Dec. 2019.
The Davenport, Iowa, native believes he has paid his debt to society and hopes to be released sooner.
As dismal as Nunn’s circumstances may be at present, there is no denying his glorious achievements in the prize ring. The glitzy American was the first product of Ten Goose Boxing, honing his skills under the tutelage of acclaimed coach Joe Goossen. Following a messy split, Nunn would also work with Angelo Dundee but always credited his association with the Goossen family as making him the fighter he became.
In July 1988, Nunn wrenched the IBF middleweight title from Frank Tate via ninth round stoppage. The win solidified his status as one of the finest fighters in the world and, at 25 years old, with 31 straight wins, he was entering his prime years. In his first defense, the future of the 160-pound division would chew up fierce Argentinian power-puncher Juan Domingo Roldan in eight but what came next sent shockwaves through the sport.
Sumbu Kalambay was born in Zaire, Africa and resided in Italy. He was a master technician and, as WBA middleweight titleholder, carried serious momentum with consecutive victories over Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Mike McCallum, Robbie Sims and Doug DeWitt. The famous unanimous decision win over McCallum in March 1988, later avenged by “The Body Snatcher”, is arguably one of the finest demonstrations of pure boxing in the modern era.
Unfortunately, the WBA would strip Kalambay of his title for agreeing to face Nunn but boxing politics could not disguise the obvious. Staged inside the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas, on March 25, 1989, this was a high-stakes meeting between the two best middleweights in the world. Not one person in attendance could have imagined that the glistening gold bell at ringside would only be struck once.
Nunn carried the swagger of a champion sparring a novice; casually warming up his limbs by shaking them nonchalantly as he pursued the target. With just over a minute gone, Kalambay released a left jab which was deflected effortlessly and caught a pulverizing left hook to the jaw which knocked him out before he hit the canvas. This amazing victory was both a blessing and a ruin for Nunn, as projected big-money showdowns with fading legends Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns appeared to vanish as quickly as Kalambay did.
The electrifying finish was voted THE RING Knockout of the Year and it was the pinnacle of Nunn’s professional life. A brace of majority decision wins over Iran Barkley and Marlon Starling was followed by a 10th-round knockout of former pound-for-pound No. 1 Donald Curry; however, a new middleweight force was about to burst the unbeaten champion’s bubble.
James Toney, a boisterous 22-year-old, fighting out of Ann Arbor, MI, fell way behind against Nunn in May 1991. Taking into account the impeccable career “Lights Out” would go on to have, it seems almost unimaginable that he could be made to look foolish at his peak but that was the story in Nunn’s hometown of Davenport. Toney rallied, however, and displaying the durability and cunning that would later become hallmarks, floored the champion with a huge left hand in Round 11. Nunn rose but was in no position to defend himself when referee Dennis Nelson halted the bout.
Despite annexing the WBA super middleweight title from Victor Cordoba in Sept. 1992, the Toney loss appeared to permanently remove some of Nunn’s sparkle. Surprising defeats to Steve Little and Frankie Liles ended his world title ambitions at 168 pounds and a split decision loss to Graciano Rocchigiani, in a vacant WBC light heavyweight title contest, was his last shot at a legitimate championship.
His final bout, before fate and poor choices would irreparably change his life, was a cruiserweight appearance in Jan. 2002.
At his best, Nunn was a swanky and sophisticated stylist with crisp hitting power and opponents frequently had more chance of hitting the lottery than the target. If the 6-foot-2 southpaw performed below par, then he came under the same type of scrutiny that befell the great Pernell Whitaker. Like Whitaker, Nunn was capable of sucking the drama out of a fight but there was no denying his exceptional skill-set.
The former two-division titlist agreed to speak to RingTV.com, via email, about the best opponents he faced in 10 key categories.
BEST SKILLS - Donald Curry: He was wise and sharp. This is a tough one because I came across a lot of good boxers on the way up the ladder.
BEST JAB - Frank Tate: He had a great jab, so I had to stay on top of him from the first round. I won the middleweight championship of the world after a long, hard fight.
BEST DEFENSE – Marlon Starling: To this day, Starling is still asking for a rematch. He was a crafty little man, who was hard to catch cleanly with big shots.
BEST CHIN - lran Barkley: You could hit the guy with a hammer and he was going nowhere. I landed everything I had and he said, ‘Is that all you’ve got, Nunn?’
BEST PUNCHER - Juan Roldan: He was the strongest puncher I faced in my career.
FASTEST HANDS - Carl Jones: He was from Los Angeles and had me down in the first round.
FASTEST FEET - Jones: The only thing faster than Jones’ feet were his hands.
SMARTEST - James Toney: I have to admit, looking back, James Toney was a smart guy in the ring.
STRONGEST - Barkley: For a middleweight, Barkley was exceptionally strong. It was like pounding on a heavyweight. After the weigh-in, he must have gained an extra 20 pounds.
BEST OVERALL - Curry: The best overall game belonged to Donald Curry. He could do a bit of everything.
Best I've Faced: Michael Nunn - Ring TV
Two-division titleholder, pound-for-pound entrant, boxing superstar, heir-apparent to Sugar Ray Leonard and maximum security prisoner.
His introduction is a shocking paradox but that is life so far for the gifted but flawed Michael “Second To” Nunn. Sentenced to 24 years and four months for drug conspiracy charges in 2004, the 52-year-old ex-champion is currently serving his time at the Hazelton Federal Correctional Institution in Bruceton Mills, W.V.
Now a Muslim-convert and vegetarian, Nunn made poor decisions in his past life and has paid a heavy price for being involved in the purchase of one kilogram of cocaine in Aug. 2002. His sentence was initially due to end in 2028 but new protocol has brought that release date forward to Dec. 2019.
The Davenport, Iowa, native believes he has paid his debt to society and hopes to be released sooner.
As dismal as Nunn’s circumstances may be at present, there is no denying his glorious achievements in the prize ring. The glitzy American was the first product of Ten Goose Boxing, honing his skills under the tutelage of acclaimed coach Joe Goossen. Following a messy split, Nunn would also work with Angelo Dundee but always credited his association with the Goossen family as making him the fighter he became.
In July 1988, Nunn wrenched the IBF middleweight title from Frank Tate via ninth round stoppage. The win solidified his status as one of the finest fighters in the world and, at 25 years old, with 31 straight wins, he was entering his prime years. In his first defense, the future of the 160-pound division would chew up fierce Argentinian power-puncher Juan Domingo Roldan in eight but what came next sent shockwaves through the sport.
Sumbu Kalambay was born in Zaire, Africa and resided in Italy. He was a master technician and, as WBA middleweight titleholder, carried serious momentum with consecutive victories over Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Mike McCallum, Robbie Sims and Doug DeWitt. The famous unanimous decision win over McCallum in March 1988, later avenged by “The Body Snatcher”, is arguably one of the finest demonstrations of pure boxing in the modern era.
Unfortunately, the WBA would strip Kalambay of his title for agreeing to face Nunn but boxing politics could not disguise the obvious. Staged inside the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas, on March 25, 1989, this was a high-stakes meeting between the two best middleweights in the world. Not one person in attendance could have imagined that the glistening gold bell at ringside would only be struck once.
Nunn carried the swagger of a champion sparring a novice; casually warming up his limbs by shaking them nonchalantly as he pursued the target. With just over a minute gone, Kalambay released a left jab which was deflected effortlessly and caught a pulverizing left hook to the jaw which knocked him out before he hit the canvas. This amazing victory was both a blessing and a ruin for Nunn, as projected big-money showdowns with fading legends Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns appeared to vanish as quickly as Kalambay did.
The electrifying finish was voted THE RING Knockout of the Year and it was the pinnacle of Nunn’s professional life. A brace of majority decision wins over Iran Barkley and Marlon Starling was followed by a 10th-round knockout of former pound-for-pound No. 1 Donald Curry; however, a new middleweight force was about to burst the unbeaten champion’s bubble.
James Toney, a boisterous 22-year-old, fighting out of Ann Arbor, MI, fell way behind against Nunn in May 1991. Taking into account the impeccable career “Lights Out” would go on to have, it seems almost unimaginable that he could be made to look foolish at his peak but that was the story in Nunn’s hometown of Davenport. Toney rallied, however, and displaying the durability and cunning that would later become hallmarks, floored the champion with a huge left hand in Round 11. Nunn rose but was in no position to defend himself when referee Dennis Nelson halted the bout.
Despite annexing the WBA super middleweight title from Victor Cordoba in Sept. 1992, the Toney loss appeared to permanently remove some of Nunn’s sparkle. Surprising defeats to Steve Little and Frankie Liles ended his world title ambitions at 168 pounds and a split decision loss to Graciano Rocchigiani, in a vacant WBC light heavyweight title contest, was his last shot at a legitimate championship.
His final bout, before fate and poor choices would irreparably change his life, was a cruiserweight appearance in Jan. 2002.
At his best, Nunn was a swanky and sophisticated stylist with crisp hitting power and opponents frequently had more chance of hitting the lottery than the target. If the 6-foot-2 southpaw performed below par, then he came under the same type of scrutiny that befell the great Pernell Whitaker. Like Whitaker, Nunn was capable of sucking the drama out of a fight but there was no denying his exceptional skill-set.
The former two-division titlist agreed to speak to RingTV.com, via email, about the best opponents he faced in 10 key categories.
BEST SKILLS - Donald Curry: He was wise and sharp. This is a tough one because I came across a lot of good boxers on the way up the ladder.
BEST JAB - Frank Tate: He had a great jab, so I had to stay on top of him from the first round. I won the middleweight championship of the world after a long, hard fight.
BEST DEFENSE – Marlon Starling: To this day, Starling is still asking for a rematch. He was a crafty little man, who was hard to catch cleanly with big shots.
BEST CHIN - lran Barkley: You could hit the guy with a hammer and he was going nowhere. I landed everything I had and he said, ‘Is that all you’ve got, Nunn?’
BEST PUNCHER - Juan Roldan: He was the strongest puncher I faced in my career.
FASTEST HANDS - Carl Jones: He was from Los Angeles and had me down in the first round.
FASTEST FEET - Jones: The only thing faster than Jones’ feet were his hands.
SMARTEST - James Toney: I have to admit, looking back, James Toney was a smart guy in the ring.
STRONGEST - Barkley: For a middleweight, Barkley was exceptionally strong. It was like pounding on a heavyweight. After the weigh-in, he must have gained an extra 20 pounds.
BEST OVERALL - Curry: The best overall game belonged to Donald Curry. He could do a bit of everything.
Best I've Faced: Michael Nunn - Ring TV
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