He beat khan...you mean bradley....plus the draw with ortiz
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Based on the fact:
- He already defeated Amir Khan
- I thought he beat Danny Garcia clearly the 1st time, and would pick King Pete in the rematch to win (and not get robbed again)
- The blueprint is out on Lucas...just stay away from him and box him from the outside. He's done at the top and Peterson would win a pretty easy victory over him by just Boxing, instead of coming close and trying to trade like he did in their 1st fight.
- He beats Bradley, because I feel like Bradley is also on the downside of his career and I don't think Bradley & Atlas will be better than Bradley at 140 with Diaz was.
So we parsing words like its a Presidential debate now?That's not what you said though
And that's false. He's actually fighting worse opponents
Wilder's recent opponents have been, on average, ranked 40 spots lower than Joshua's recent opponents....that's not comparable at all either
Again, Joshua's opponent coming up (Whyte) would still be the worst opponent Wilder has faced in the last 2 years
Joshua is facing bums and KOing them, just like Wilder did breh. You cant prop him up and dismiss Wilder...when Joshua is doing the exact same thing
My point is that their comp isn't that different so I can and will dismiss Wilder because he shouldn't be fighting people who it is acceptable for a 2 year pro to be fighting.
Why you are arguing so hard about this is a mystery to me. Dude is 7 years in and his comp is bottom of the barrel.
Wilder fought a nobody like Jason Gavern after Joshua did...how is that acceptable to you?
You made an original statement which I responded too. I didn't know that was "parsing words".
A can is a can.
Wilder's cans are just better the cans Joshua has been fighting though.
Wilder's resume leaves a lot to be desired....and I have been one of the main one's in here saying that he needs to be fighting top tier opps over and over again.
Why am I arguing so hard though? Because you said that Joshua was fighting better opponents, but if we are going to be factual, Wilder's opponents have been better....on average 40 spots higher in the rankings better.
But, simply put, they are both (not just Wilder) known "Can Crushers" at this time, even though Wilder's victory over Stiverne is always gonna be legit and give him the edge, so there is no way for one to prop Joshua over Wilder as if Joshua has been beating legit opponents when he hasn't.
If Wilder's resume is poor, so is Joshua's that's all Im saying. You cant disrespect Wilder for Joshua, when Joshua has yet to even face a guy ranked in the Top 40.
Wilder fought Gavern before Joshua did....not the other way around breh.
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First Article Titled - Khan Gives Pacquiao Fight 'One More Week' To Get Done.....
First Article Titled - Khan Gives Pacquiao Fight 'One More Week' To Get Done.....
I thought he fought the landscaper in 2014 at the beginning of summer and Wilder fought him at the end of summer.
Must be getting my bums confused because they all look alike.And you are conveniently skipping over my broader point which is that Joshua fighting the Jason Gaverns of the world is fine for him right now because he is still in the formative stage of his career (and even at that the calls for him to step up have been really loud) while Wilder is a seasoned vet who seems perfectly content to fight club fighter after club fighter until he retires.
I agree on Joshua, but it's still can crushing when he's a heavily hyped "Gold Medalist". As far as Wilder, he's already gotten Stiverne on his resume and Povetkin will be next. After that fight, we can revisit how content Wilder is.
Honestly, to me, Wilder's resume is no different than Kell Brook's
Still mad about that L Porter had to takeI agree on Joshua, but it's still can crushing when he's a heavily hyped "Gold Medalist". As far as Wilder, he's already gotten Stiverne on his resume and Povetkin will be next. After that fight, we can revisit how content Wilder is.
Honestly, to me, Wilder's resume is no different than Kell Brook's
Your boy Broner couldnt do something Brook done comfortably
How you gonna shyt on Shawn Porter by comparing him to Bermane Stiverne?I agree on Joshua, but it's still can crushing when he's a heavily hyped "Gold Medalist". As far as Wilder, he's already gotten Stiverne on his resume and Povetkin will be next. After that fight, we can revisit how content Wilder is.
Honestly, to me, Wilder's resume is no different than Kell Brook's
And I expect Joshua to take that step up within the next year while Wilder took a baby step up against Stiverne and then went running back to scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Still mad about that L Porter had to take
Your boy Broner couldnt do something Brook done comfortably
Broner is quite excellent at destroying guys he has a size advantage over too......and does it by UDs, not MDs
Shawn Porter was a Champion and RING ranked #4 when Brook beat him to get his only top tier win in the Welterweight Division.
Bermane Stiverne was a Champion and RING ranked #2 (or #3, I cant remember) when Wilder beat him to get his only top tier win in the Heavyweight Division.
Before & since then, neither Brook nor Wilder has faced a true top tier opponent in their weight class. They are also both 35-0 as well. Their resumes are similar.
Come on breh.
And then Wilder will be facing Povetkin, which means he will be fighting the top of the food chain again shortly.