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Kerry Hope has WBC title fight decision overturned


The Australia-based Welshman has now been awarded the belt


FORMER European middleweight champion Kerry Hope is now the WBC Asian Boxing Council middleweight champion after the governing body overturned a controversial draw decision he received against Thailand’s Petchsuriya Singwancha on August 29.

Hope, who is now based in Australia, appeared to dominate the contest but scores of 115-113 (for Singwancha), 114-114 and 117-111 (for Hope) were given.

The Welshman’s manager, Matt Clark, launched an official complaint with the WBC who reviewed the contest and the decision was awarded to Hope by wide margins. Two of the three judges have also been suspended and must retrain.

Currently in the WBO’s top 15 middleweights in the world, the 33-year-old is now likely to enter the WBC ratings also.



Rising star Erickson Lubin listens, learns, eyes title fight in 2016



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On Erickson Lubin’s 18th birthday, his life changed forever.

That was two years ago on Oct. 1, the day Mike Tyson signed the amateur boxing star to a professional contract. Tyson incurred the wrath of USA Boxing President Charles Butler, who accused the ex-heavyweight champ of stealing Lubin away from the Olympic program and denying America’s top prospect a chance to become this country’s first male boxing gold medalist since 2004.

Lubin, now two weeks from turning 20, has no regrets. He no longer is with Tyson, whose promotional company, Iron Mike Productions, folded after he split with business partner Garry Jonas last year. Lubin (11-0, eight KOs) is one of boxing’s hottest prospects and is looking to moving up to title contender this year.

KHAN-PACQUIAO: Fight could go down in 2016

The super welterweight could take a big step toward that goal when he faces veteran Orlando Lora in a scheduled eight-round fight Friday in Winter Park, Fla., next door to his hometown of Orlando (Bounce TV, 9 p.m. ET).

Lora is a step up in competition for Lubin, who is coming off two first-round knockouts in a row. The 34-year-old Mexican (31-5-2, 19 KOs) has fought a murderers’ row of top fighters the last few years, including Keith Thurman, Jermall Charlo, Paulie Malignaggi and Julian Williams, though he lost to each.

“I’m real confident because I feel like I can surpass all of those fighters that he’s fought,” Lubin said. “I just have to make a statement tomorrow. It motivates me to go in there against a guy who’s fought those guys and surpass what they did to him.”

Lubin is now with Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions but fondly recalls the Tyson days. “I really don’t (have any regrets),” Lubin told USA TODAY Sports Thursday. “Mike is a great guy who led me on the right path. We did what we had to do. It’s a business, and we just moved on.”

Lubin’s trainer, Jason Galarza, called it a valuable experience for Lubin with Tyson. “Definitely, he watched Tyson growing up, and he’s seen Tyson win a world championship at his age, and it was a really good learning experience,” Galarza explained.

MAYWEATHER IV STORY: USADA responds to ‘inaccuracies’

Galarza has been with Lubin since the fighter was 13 and knows what he has in the young rising star.

“I think he’s progressing very well,” Galarza said of Lubin, a southpaw knockout machine nicknamed “The Hammer.” “A lot of people question if we’re moving him a little too fast, but as a team, we know what we’ve got in him, and we have big plans for him.

“Al Haymon is definitely going to guide him, and put his career on the right path.”

Lubin’s biggest strength as a fighter, Galarza says, is his mind.

“He’s a really strong-minded individual, works very hard, and he’s a great listener,” the trainer said. “That’s why he was such a successful amateur. A key thing for a boxer is to be a good listener and to believe in what your corner tells you. If you listen to your corner, you should be successful. He’s been with me since he was going on 14, and he has not lost since.”


Six of Lubin’s eight knockouts have come in the first round, including his last two opponents: Kenneth Council (8-0, six KOs coming in) and Ayi Bruce (23-9, 15 KOs), who said Lubin was too young to face him and would get schooled.

Instead, it was Bruce who got schooled, lasting less than 3 minutes. Council lasted half that, getting KO’d 1:33 into the fight.

Asked if he was just that much better than them, Lubin, who describes his style as a boxer-puncher who can brawl and bang if need be, said, “Yes, I probably was, but sometimes you don’t know what your opponent looks like until fight night, and we had no tape on those guys. I just wanted to fight guys with good records, and we put the records on the line.”

Galarza says their long-range plan when Lubin turned pro was to have him lined up for a title fight by the time the Rio Olympics end in 2016. They’re right on target. He marvels at Lubin’s skills and boxing IQ.

People always ask, ‘What can you do to enhance him and make him a better fighter?’ My answer is always the same,” Galarza said. “You can’t improve him. His talent was given by God. It’s nothing he was taught. People say, ‘Oh yeah I trained him, I taught him how to do that.’

“Impossible. This kid has natural talent in everything he does.”:wow::wow::wow:
 

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On This Day: Felix Trinidad edges Oscar De La Hoya in disappointing welterweight superfight


Matt Christie tells the story behind the September 18 1999 showdown, one of the richest in boxing history


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1. IT was supposed to be the best fight the welterweight division had seen since Sugar Ray Leonard beat Thomas Hearns in 1981. Certainly it was the most anticipated. “This is the fight of the century,” said then-world featherweight champion Naseem Hamed. “How could I dare miss it?” But the unification showdown between Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya, staged at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas on September 18, 1999, was far from the fight of the century.

2. THE combatants came into the fight with fearsome reputations and unbeaten records. Trinidad, 35-0 (30), was regarded as the hardest puncher in boxing, while De La Hoya, 31-0 (25), was considered one of the sport’s absolute finest. There was no clear favourite, and opinions swayed as the fight got closer.

3. TRINIDAD, of Puerto Rico, arrived in Las Vegas several weeks before the fight and, staying at the Hilton Hotel, demanded privacy. He refused interviews and locked the media and public out of his training sessions until there were only days to go. There were rumours that he was uneasy, and struggling to make weight. On the Tuesday before the superfight he decided to organise a public training session that proved he was in peak condition.

4. DE LA HOYA was convinced that victory would be his, and that it would be more straightforward than anyone envisioned. “Nobody knows what I’m going to do,” he said. “That’s playing it smart, confusing my opponent. I’m hungry again. Trinidad’s not a boxer. Whenever he gets hit, he gets wobbled. He’s weak. I don’t think he’s a solid physical structure. I might wipe him off the map or just outbox him. I want to remain undefeated and retire as champion. It’s never been done [outside the heavyweight division]. Watch what happens when I retire from boxing.”

5. BEFORE the fight it was announced that De La Hoya’s purse was a guaranteed $21million compared to Trinidad’s $8.5million. Promoter Bob Arum also added there was a further $11million available in prize funds, that would be split between the pair, if the fight performed well at the Box Office. It did, with 1.4million paying to watch the fight on television, making the PPV revenue a cool $71.4million. All in all, at the time of the fight, it was the richest non-heavyweight fight in history.

6. THE crowd was awash with personalities. Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Thomas Hearns, Julio Cesar Chavez and Mike Tyson were there. Angelo Dundee watched on with tennis superstars Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi and Steffi Graff. Elsewhere Sylvester Stallone, Jack Nicholson, Cameron Diaz, and Danny DeVito were in attendance.

7. BUT expectations could not be met. The fight was a disappointment, particularly to the those who were expecting a shootout. It was a chess match, and one that De La Hoya seemed to control. At the end of the 12th and final round, Oscar launched his hands to the air in triumph, convinced he had down enough. Certainly, it seemed like he controlled the first eight rounds before opting to slow his output over the last four because he thought victory was his.

8. TRINIDAD was named the winner. The announced scores of 115-114, 115-113, and 114-114 that handed him the majority victory were a surprise to many. The Puerto Rican had certainly been aggressive, but his attacks, largely reduced to just one-twos by De La Hoya’s solid defensive work, had been ineffective. But those who argued that Oscar had cost himself victory, by coasting through the final third of the bout, certainly had a point.

9. JEFF FENECH, the Australian legend, was disgusted by the verdict, and the performance of the judges. “If anyone makes a mistake at work, they get the sack. But in this business the judges get away with it. I wanted Trinidad to win but, after the first round, De La Hoya won the next seven. He won the fight. It was a terrible fight, but Oscar won. This sport sucks.”

10. TRINIDAD had plenty of support, though. Many believed he had done enough. And there was no louder support than that coming from his promoter, Don King. “Give my fighter credit. He beat your man. You’re trying to manipulate these people. There’s no controversy here…” Sick and tired of his old nemesis banging on, Bob Arum switched off his microphone at the post-fight press conference and told him to shut the hell up.



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On This Day: Felix Trinidad edges Oscar De La Hoya in disappointing welterweight superfight


Matt Christie tells the story behind the September 18 1999 showdown, one of the richest in boxing history


reua-510575-1.jpg




1. IT was supposed to be the best fight the welterweight division had seen since Sugar Ray Leonard beat Thomas Hearns in 1981. Certainly it was the most anticipated. “This is the fight of the century,” said then-world featherweight champion Naseem Hamed. “How could I dare miss it?” But the unification showdown between Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya, staged at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas on September 18, 1999, was far from the fight of the century.

2. THE combatants came into the fight with fearsome reputations and unbeaten records. Trinidad, 35-0 (30), was regarded as the hardest puncher in boxing, while De La Hoya, 31-0 (25), was considered one of the sport’s absolute finest. There was no clear favourite, and opinions swayed as the fight got closer.

3. TRINIDAD, of Puerto Rico, arrived in Las Vegas several weeks before the fight and, staying at the Hilton Hotel, demanded privacy. He refused interviews and locked the media and public out of his training sessions until there were only days to go. There were rumours that he was uneasy, and struggling to make weight. On the Tuesday before the superfight he decided to organise a public training session that proved he was in peak condition.

4. DE LA HOYA was convinced that victory would be his, and that it would be more straightforward than anyone envisioned. “Nobody knows what I’m going to do,” he said. “That’s playing it smart, confusing my opponent. I’m hungry again. Trinidad’s not a boxer. Whenever he gets hit, he gets wobbled. He’s weak. I don’t think he’s a solid physical structure. I might wipe him off the map or just outbox him. I want to remain undefeated and retire as champion. It’s never been done [outside the heavyweight division]. Watch what happens when I retire from boxing.”

5. BEFORE the fight it was announced that De La Hoya’s purse was a guaranteed $21million compared to Trinidad’s $8.5million. Promoter Bob Arum also added there was a further $11million available in prize funds, that would be split between the pair, if the fight performed well at the Box Office. It did, with 1.4million paying to watch the fight on television, making the PPV revenue a cool $71.4million. All in all, at the time of the fight, it was the richest non-heavyweight fight in history.

6. THE crowd was awash with personalities. Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Thomas Hearns, Julio Cesar Chavez and Mike Tyson were there. Angelo Dundee watched on with tennis superstars Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi and Steffi Graff. Elsewhere Sylvester Stallone, Jack Nicholson, Cameron Diaz, and Danny DeVito were in attendance.

7. BUT expectations could not be met. The fight was a disappointment, particularly to the those who were expecting a shootout. It was a chess match, and one that De La Hoya seemed to control. At the end of the 12th and final round, Oscar launched his hands to the air in triumph, convinced he had down enough. Certainly, it seemed like he controlled the first eight rounds before opting to slow his output over the last four because he thought victory was his.

8. TRINIDAD was named the winner. The announced scores of 115-114, 115-113, and 114-114 that handed him the majority victory were a surprise to many. The Puerto Rican had certainly been aggressive, but his attacks, largely reduced to just one-twos by De La Hoya’s solid defensive work, had been ineffective. But those who argued that Oscar had cost himself victory, by coasting through the final third of the bout, certainly had a point.

9. JEFF FENECH, the Australian legend, was disgusted by the verdict, and the performance of the judges. “If anyone makes a mistake at work, they get the sack. But in this business the judges get away with it. I wanted Trinidad to win but, after the first round, De La Hoya won the next seven. He won the fight. It was a terrible fight, but Oscar won. This sport sucks.”

10. TRINIDAD had plenty of support, though. Many believed he had done enough. And there was no louder support than that coming from his promoter, Don King. “Give my fighter credit. He beat your man. You’re trying to manipulate these people. There’s no controversy here…” Sick and tired of his old nemesis banging on, Bob Arum switched off his microphone at the post-fight press conference and told him to shut the hell up.



The OG Dud Superfight lol
 

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I read that whole article with the :martin: look on my face.
Wilder needs to either own the fact that he hasn't fought anything better than a mediocre opponent in his almost 8 year career or step up and fight decent comp. But his constantly bytching about people pointing out the facts of his fairy tale career just makes him look like a sensitive ass ho.
 

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Rising star Erickson Lubin listens, learns, eyes title fight in 2016



c07-boxing-0918.jpg




On Erickson Lubin’s 18th birthday, his life changed forever.

That was two years ago on Oct. 1, the day Mike Tyson signed the amateur boxing star to a professional contract. Tyson incurred the wrath of USA Boxing President Charles Butler, who accused the ex-heavyweight champ of stealing Lubin away from the Olympic program and denying America’s top prospect a chance to become this country’s first male boxing gold medalist since 2004.

Lubin, now two weeks from turning 20, has no regrets. He no longer is with Tyson, whose promotional company, Iron Mike Productions, folded after he split with business partner Garry Jonas last year. Lubin (11-0, eight KOs) is one of boxing’s hottest prospects and is looking to moving up to title contender this year.

KHAN-PACQUIAO: Fight could go down in 2016

The super welterweight could take a big step toward that goal when he faces veteran Orlando Lora in a scheduled eight-round fight Friday in Winter Park, Fla., next door to his hometown of Orlando (Bounce TV, 9 p.m. ET).

Lora is a step up in competition for Lubin, who is coming off two first-round knockouts in a row. The 34-year-old Mexican (31-5-2, 19 KOs) has fought a murderers’ row of top fighters the last few years, including Keith Thurman, Jermall Charlo, Paulie Malignaggi and Julian Williams, though he lost to each.

“I’m real confident because I feel like I can surpass all of those fighters that he’s fought,” Lubin said. “I just have to make a statement tomorrow. It motivates me to go in there against a guy who’s fought those guys and surpass what they did to him.”

Lubin is now with Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions but fondly recalls the Tyson days. “I really don’t (have any regrets),” Lubin told USA TODAY Sports Thursday. “Mike is a great guy who led me on the right path. We did what we had to do. It’s a business, and we just moved on.”

Lubin’s trainer, Jason Galarza, called it a valuable experience for Lubin with Tyson. “Definitely, he watched Tyson growing up, and he’s seen Tyson win a world championship at his age, and it was a really good learning experience,” Galarza explained.

MAYWEATHER IV STORY: USADA responds to ‘inaccuracies’

Galarza has been with Lubin since the fighter was 13 and knows what he has in the young rising star.

“I think he’s progressing very well,” Galarza said of Lubin, a southpaw knockout machine nicknamed “The Hammer.” “A lot of people question if we’re moving him a little too fast, but as a team, we know what we’ve got in him, and we have big plans for him.

“Al Haymon is definitely going to guide him, and put his career on the right path.”

Lubin’s biggest strength as a fighter, Galarza says, is his mind.

“He’s a really strong-minded individual, works very hard, and he’s a great listener,” the trainer said. “That’s why he was such a successful amateur. A key thing for a boxer is to be a good listener and to believe in what your corner tells you. If you listen to your corner, you should be successful. He’s been with me since he was going on 14, and he has not lost since.”


Six of Lubin’s eight knockouts have come in the first round, including his last two opponents: Kenneth Council (8-0, six KOs coming in) and Ayi Bruce (23-9, 15 KOs), who said Lubin was too young to face him and would get schooled.

Instead, it was Bruce who got schooled, lasting less than 3 minutes. Council lasted half that, getting KO’d 1:33 into the fight.

Asked if he was just that much better than them, Lubin, who describes his style as a boxer-puncher who can brawl and bang if need be, said, “Yes, I probably was, but sometimes you don’t know what your opponent looks like until fight night, and we had no tape on those guys. I just wanted to fight guys with good records, and we put the records on the line.”

Galarza says their long-range plan when Lubin turned pro was to have him lined up for a title fight by the time the Rio Olympics end in 2016. They’re right on target. He marvels at Lubin’s skills and boxing IQ.

People always ask, ‘What can you do to enhance him and make him a better fighter?’ My answer is always the same,” Galarza said. “You can’t improve him. His talent was given by God. It’s nothing he was taught. People say, ‘Oh yeah I trained him, I taught him how to do that.’

“Impossible. This kid has natural talent in everything he does.”:wow::wow::wow:



It's about to be "Hammer Time" tonight:ohlawd:



#HammerHeads



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Been saying this for a while. Thurman's just as much of a ducker as them other dudes. He ain't fooling me. Only a moron fights a porter when he can make a mill fighting the collazos of the World.

I still can't believe he's wasting money on these trash cards.

yeah you've been iffy about PBC.longer than anyone except maybe @yoyoyo1 but no one really comes at you on why that is lol
 
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