GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Good stuff. 175 is really talented. Kovalev, Stevenson, Beterbiev, Browne...plus several others, we need to see some mix and matching.
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Good stuff. 175 is really talented. Kovalev, Stevenson, Beterbiev, Browne...plus several others, we need to see some mix and matching.
Ward needs to be in the mix with these cats
I wanna see better match making at 175lbs
Pascal/Krusher and Pascal/Gonzalez was a good start, but these other nikkas gotta get involved.
Pascal/Krusher and Pascal/Gonzalez was a good start, but these other nikkas gotta get involved.
He wasn't getting up...but he should've at least been given a chance to go on before just waving it off like that.
This is the kid from the olympics, right?
He wasn't getting up...but he should've at least been given a chance to go on before just waving it off like that.
This is the kid from the olympics, right?
yeah..its a shame campillo is gatekeeper status now
Campillo been done for a while now. I don't know why they keep sending this nikka out to get his shyt wrecked over an over on live tv. 
His last hurrah was on FNF where he pulled a comeback and stopped that prospect (was a pretty decent scrap too)
Other than that, he's been career mode status.
I'm not impressed by all these new nikkas knocking him out nowadays. Yeah it's highlight reel worthy, but nothing to really pump up ya resume with.
His last hurrah was on FNF where he pulled a comeback and stopped that prospect (was a pretty decent scrap too)
Other than that, he's been career mode status.
I'm not impressed by all these new nikkas knocking him out nowadays. Yeah it's highlight reel worthy, but nothing to really pump up ya resume with.
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Campillo was never elite though...gettin' by him always meant you just got past a gatekeeper.
LeVraiPapi
Redemption is Coming
Pacscorpio is a Pac stan who was banning FLoyd stans out The Ring but never touched the Pacman stansyea i remember coming home from work and seeing that filipinos were photoshopping mayweather on KFC buckets and i made a thread about it oh theand it was at that point i couldnt believe they were allowing that. im not sure what you mean about @patscorpio avoiding my posts, hes a good dude, care to elaborate?
the thing is, i been watching floyd HIS ENTIRE CAREER. Only time i didnt see him was when i was overseas. i missed the castillo fights. but i been watching this guy forever. there is very little ii cant tell you about his career.
Hates on PBVC and point for anything that's wrong. Hates on majority Black fighters and stans mostly non-Black fighters
He still a good dude breh ?
@LeVraiPapi doesn't like my opinions on Al Haymon and PBC or how I don't think race is the issue for every gotdamn thing that comes up for a minority fighter (i.e black)
You though say some real shyt and you never contradict yourself (@LeVraiPapi does that alot)....i also already know you're a true Floyd fan so no issues with you said at all
who you hate more ? Floyd or Berto ?
- false and can be disproven quite easilyPacscorpio is a Pac stan who was banning FLoyd stans out The Ring but never touched the Pacman stans
Hates on majority Black fighters and stans mostly non-Black fighters
lets see some black fighters Patscorpio has mentioned on multiple occasions on the coli in positive and in some cases stanning light (in no particular order)
- Pernell Whitaker
- Ike Quartey
- James Toney
- Evander Holyfield
- Sam Peter
- Matthew Saad Muhammad
- Julian Jackson
- Paul Williams
- Gary Russell
- Amir Imam
- Jeff Lacy
- Ike Ibeabuchi
- Azumah Nelson
- Muhammad Ali
- Steve Cunningham
- Tavoris Cloud
- Chad Dawson
- Andre Dirrell
- Tim Austin
- Terry Norris
- Badou Jack
for me..race no limits
LeVraiPapi
Redemption is Coming
- false and can be disproven quite easily
lets see some black fighters Patscorpio has mentioned on multiple occasions on the coli in positive and in some cases stanning light (in no particular order)
I can go on and on but im sure you get the picture..andre berto is a bum and will never be shyt..floyd i just dont fukk with although i recognize his talent..im also blessed to have favorite non black fighters...as a boxing fan it makes things
- Pernell Whitaker
- Ike Quartey
- James Toney
- Evander Holyfield
- Sam Peter
- Matthew Saad Muhammad
- Julian Jackson
- Paul Williams
- Gary Russell
- Amir Imam
- Jeff Lacy
- Ike Ibeabuchi
- Azumah Nelson
- Muhammad Ali
- Steve Cunningham
- Tavoris Cloud
- Chad Dawson
- Andre Dirrell
- Tim Austin
- Terry Norris
- Badou Jack
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Cole Cash
They took a hammer and sickle to my back
i fukk with both of yall. buy the album when it drops
Street Champion coming soon.
Street Champion coming soon.
@Cole Cash
aight breh..my views on Haymon and PBC
I don't see Haymon as some savior for boxing mostly because of how the fighters he "advises" are compensated in contrast to what they have actually done in the careers. Alot of his fighters are overpaid for fighting the most non descript opponents and passing them off as must see cards.
He all but turned boxing on showtime into shyt with this matchmaking practice last year. shyt was disgusting to meesp since i pay for the channel. I also think that shyt ruins fighters, especially young and/or upcoming fighters. It breeds laziness and complacency along with tendency for risk aversion. I also can give 2 shyts on what fighters make as an excuse for this. Hell its already starting to rear its head in some of his main fighters already and I think its going to get worse.
PBC is the culmination of Al's efforts to preserve his fighters from taking Ls. Now I thought PBC's intent, besides trying to showcase boxing on more mainstream level, was showing a better quality of fights. Especially with that roster he has under his control. i don't feel that way at all. I'm not the people that are nitpicking the design, or the broadcasting team, or the entrances for PBC and dismissing it off that. That type of shyt is trivial and cosmetic in the bigger picture of things. What is important though is it matchmaking. I don't feel the cards are any different from your FNF, Shobox, HBO BAD, regular Showtime card. It has its fights here and there and I do have a PBC fight as the current leading FOTY candidate (Huck-Glowacki - ironically neither are PBC fighters lol). However it is the one thing I harp about PBC. The potential for good cards are there but its not being executed right.
Now I hear the typical response "Pat its on free TV though". That shouldn't be any reason to excuse the matchmaking. I also feel because there's so many PBC cards these days, it is used as a crutch. For example the 3 undercard fights on the past Floyd-Berto card shytted on every PBC card i've seen, which is all of them. That was on a PPV and that is the type of level of fights i thought PBC was going to bring to the game. Now with all that I've seen every PBC card on TV and have even been to one live with plans on seeing another one live next month. I do it because I love boxing..nothing more nothing less.
If im going to drink the PBC kool aid, the matchmaking has to improve and even better work with other promoters
so thats basically a sum of my thoughts..most of the cats on here have heard them before in different variations
Been saying this for a while. Thurman's just as much of a ducker as them other dudes. He ain't fooling me. Only a moron fights a porter when he can make a mill fighting the collazos of the World.
I still can't believe he's wasting money on these trash cards.
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
On This Day: Felix Trinidad edges Oscar De La Hoya in disappointing welterweight superfight
Matt Christie tells the story behind the September 18 1999 showdown, one of the richest in boxing history
1. IT was supposed to be the best fight the welterweight division had seen since Sugar Ray Leonard beat Thomas Hearns in 1981. Certainly it was the most anticipated. “This is the fight of the century,” said then-world featherweight champion Naseem Hamed. “How could I dare miss it?” But the unification showdown between Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya, staged at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas on September 18, 1999, was far from the fight of the century.
2. THE combatants came into the fight with fearsome reputations and unbeaten records. Trinidad, 35-0 (30), was regarded as the hardest puncher in boxing, while De La Hoya, 31-0 (25), was considered one of the sport’s absolute finest. There was no clear favourite, and opinions swayed as the fight got closer.
3. TRINIDAD, of Puerto Rico, arrived in Las Vegas several weeks before the fight and, staying at the Hilton Hotel, demanded privacy. He refused interviews and locked the media and public out of his training sessions until there were only days to go. There were rumours that he was uneasy, and struggling to make weight. On the Tuesday before the superfight he decided to organise a public training session that proved he was in peak condition.
4. DE LA HOYA was convinced that victory would be his, and that it would be more straightforward than anyone envisioned. “Nobody knows what I’m going to do,” he said. “That’s playing it smart, confusing my opponent. I’m hungry again. Trinidad’s not a boxer. Whenever he gets hit, he gets wobbled. He’s weak. I don’t think he’s a solid physical structure. I might wipe him off the map or just outbox him. I want to remain undefeated and retire as champion. It’s never been done [outside the heavyweight division]. Watch what happens when I retire from boxing.”
5. BEFORE the fight it was announced that De La Hoya’s purse was a guaranteed $21million compared to Trinidad’s $8.5million. Promoter Bob Arum also added there was a further $11million available in prize funds, that would be split between the pair, if the fight performed well at the Box Office. It did, with 1.4million paying to watch the fight on television, making the PPV revenue a cool $71.4million. All in all, at the time of the fight, it was the richest non-heavyweight fight in history.
6. THE crowd was awash with personalities. Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Thomas Hearns, Julio Cesar Chavez and Mike Tyson were there. Angelo Dundee watched on with tennis superstars Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi and Steffi Graff. Elsewhere Sylvester Stallone, Jack Nicholson, Cameron Diaz, and Danny DeVito were in attendance.
7. BUT expectations could not be met. The fight was a disappointment, particularly to the those who were expecting a shootout. It was a chess match, and one that De La Hoya seemed to control. At the end of the 12th and final round, Oscar launched his hands to the air in triumph, convinced he had down enough. Certainly, it seemed like he controlled the first eight rounds before opting to slow his output over the last four because he thought victory was his.
8. TRINIDAD was named the winner. The announced scores of 115-114, 115-113, and 114-114 that handed him the majority victory were a surprise to many. The Puerto Rican had certainly been aggressive, but his attacks, largely reduced to just one-twos by De La Hoya’s solid defensive work, had been ineffective. But those who argued that Oscar had cost himself victory, by coasting through the final third of the bout, certainly had a point.
9. JEFF FENECH, the Australian legend, was disgusted by the verdict, and the performance of the judges. “If anyone makes a mistake at work, they get the sack. But in this business the judges get away with it. I wanted Trinidad to win but, after the first round, De La Hoya won the next seven. He won the fight. It was a terrible fight, but Oscar won. This sport sucks.”
10. TRINIDAD had plenty of support, though. Many believed he had done enough. And there was no louder support than that coming from his promoter, Don King. “Give my fighter credit. He beat your man. You’re trying to manipulate these people. There’s no controversy here…” Sick and tired of his old nemesis banging on, Bob Arum switched off his microphone at the post-fight press conference and told him to shut the hell up.
Matt Christie tells the story behind the September 18 1999 showdown, one of the richest in boxing history
1. IT was supposed to be the best fight the welterweight division had seen since Sugar Ray Leonard beat Thomas Hearns in 1981. Certainly it was the most anticipated. “This is the fight of the century,” said then-world featherweight champion Naseem Hamed. “How could I dare miss it?” But the unification showdown between Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya, staged at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas on September 18, 1999, was far from the fight of the century.
2. THE combatants came into the fight with fearsome reputations and unbeaten records. Trinidad, 35-0 (30), was regarded as the hardest puncher in boxing, while De La Hoya, 31-0 (25), was considered one of the sport’s absolute finest. There was no clear favourite, and opinions swayed as the fight got closer.
3. TRINIDAD, of Puerto Rico, arrived in Las Vegas several weeks before the fight and, staying at the Hilton Hotel, demanded privacy. He refused interviews and locked the media and public out of his training sessions until there were only days to go. There were rumours that he was uneasy, and struggling to make weight. On the Tuesday before the superfight he decided to organise a public training session that proved he was in peak condition.
4. DE LA HOYA was convinced that victory would be his, and that it would be more straightforward than anyone envisioned. “Nobody knows what I’m going to do,” he said. “That’s playing it smart, confusing my opponent. I’m hungry again. Trinidad’s not a boxer. Whenever he gets hit, he gets wobbled. He’s weak. I don’t think he’s a solid physical structure. I might wipe him off the map or just outbox him. I want to remain undefeated and retire as champion. It’s never been done [outside the heavyweight division]. Watch what happens when I retire from boxing.”
5. BEFORE the fight it was announced that De La Hoya’s purse was a guaranteed $21million compared to Trinidad’s $8.5million. Promoter Bob Arum also added there was a further $11million available in prize funds, that would be split between the pair, if the fight performed well at the Box Office. It did, with 1.4million paying to watch the fight on television, making the PPV revenue a cool $71.4million. All in all, at the time of the fight, it was the richest non-heavyweight fight in history.
6. THE crowd was awash with personalities. Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Thomas Hearns, Julio Cesar Chavez and Mike Tyson were there. Angelo Dundee watched on with tennis superstars Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi and Steffi Graff. Elsewhere Sylvester Stallone, Jack Nicholson, Cameron Diaz, and Danny DeVito were in attendance.
7. BUT expectations could not be met. The fight was a disappointment, particularly to the those who were expecting a shootout. It was a chess match, and one that De La Hoya seemed to control. At the end of the 12th and final round, Oscar launched his hands to the air in triumph, convinced he had down enough. Certainly, it seemed like he controlled the first eight rounds before opting to slow his output over the last four because he thought victory was his.
8. TRINIDAD was named the winner. The announced scores of 115-114, 115-113, and 114-114 that handed him the majority victory were a surprise to many. The Puerto Rican had certainly been aggressive, but his attacks, largely reduced to just one-twos by De La Hoya’s solid defensive work, had been ineffective. But those who argued that Oscar had cost himself victory, by coasting through the final third of the bout, certainly had a point.
9. JEFF FENECH, the Australian legend, was disgusted by the verdict, and the performance of the judges. “If anyone makes a mistake at work, they get the sack. But in this business the judges get away with it. I wanted Trinidad to win but, after the first round, De La Hoya won the next seven. He won the fight. It was a terrible fight, but Oscar won. This sport sucks.”
10. TRINIDAD had plenty of support, though. Many believed he had done enough. And there was no louder support than that coming from his promoter, Don King. “Give my fighter credit. He beat your man. You’re trying to manipulate these people. There’s no controversy here…” Sick and tired of his old nemesis banging on, Bob Arum switched off his microphone at the post-fight press conference and told him to shut the hell up.