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[Big Boss]

 

[patscorpio]

Closest fight was Bika & yeah it is a problem because no fight is a guaranteed win.

Boxing isn't basketball. When your shot isn't going in, you can get a sub. In boxing, the day of the fight can literally not be your day from the time you wake up & you just gotta get through it. That's why its so hard to be undefeated. A b-level fighter can catch you on an off night.

I don't see Ward losing anytime soon, but I really don't know where he's at right now. He hasn't fight a world class guy in 3 years.

on cards..froch was the closest; but bika made ward fight hard for 12 rounds

 

[yoyoyo1]

The Ring waited like 2 days before they took Floyd off the rankings huh

All hail Roman Gonzalez, the real #1 p4p

 

[GzUp]

The Ring waited like 2 days before they took Floyd off the rankings huh

All hail Roman Gonzalez, the real #1 p4p

They put him #1...

Should be wlad

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Newzz]

What I posted in the official Cotto/Canelo thread about this:


Miguel Cotto Shreds Team Canelo: They Are Cowards!
Posted by: Miguel Rivera on 9/16/2015
By Miguel Rivera


WBC middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (40-4, 33KOs) of Puerto Rico has raised the temperature by firing back at statements that were made by his next opponent, Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (45-1-1, 32KOs) of Mexico, and his trainers Eddy Reynoso and Jose "Chepo" Reynoso.

The HBO Pay-Per-View fight takes place on November 21 in the Events Center Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas.

Cotto was annoyed by certain comments that were made about his recent opposition, claims that he was over the top with his demands during the negotiations, and other disparaging statements.

Cotto said Canelo and the Reynosos were very friendly during the four city promotional tour and never once made any comments in his direction or the direction of his trainer, Freddie Roach.

"Throughout the promotional tour Saul and Reynoso were very friendly and cordial," Cotto told El Vocero. "The man who takes advantage of the absence of his opponent, in order to open his mouth, is a coward."

"All you have to do is put on paper all of the achievements of Freddie Roach, the number of world champions with whom he has worked with, and what Miguel Cotto [has accomplished] before coming to Freddie. What Reynoso [has done] can be written on a small page."

"We're not here trying to deceive anyone. Freddie Roach is a coach who can easily be the 'Trainer of the Year' and he's done wonderful things in my career. The only things Canelo can say about Reynoso is that he had 42 fights [with him], that he was undefeated at one time, and when he went up against his first major challenge [with Floyd Mayweather] he looked like a rookie. And with that simple matter, then [we have to ask] what is their pedigree?"

Miguel Cotto Shreds Team Canelo: They Are Cowards!





What is Canelo's pedigree?


Against Floyd he lost.....just you like did


However, he did what you couldnt....beat Austin Trout


Also, beating a prime Erislandy Lara > beating Delvin Rodriguez, Daniel Geale, and Long John Silver (aka Sergio Martinez who only had 1 leg)


And with that simple matter, then [we have to ask] what is YOUR pedigree in comparision at the higher weights?


#CaneloCartel

:canelocartel:

 

[GzUp]

It's time to sell the fight cotto.

 

[Newzz]

Like I said...2 different people, 2 different opinions. This is why Ken Porter wouldnt entertain it from Floyd, he doesnt think Floyd would take the fight, so why waste time on bullshyt


And Shawn Porter would love to fight Floyd Mayweather as he's saying in the video

 

[Axum Ezana]

 

[Axum Ezana]

Pound for Pound
All weights

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  Roman Gonzalez
  Country: Nicaragua
  Record: 43-0-0 (37 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 1 | Last Week: 2 | Weeks On List: 65
  
  Title: RING, WBC flyweight
  1
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  Andre Ward
  Country: U.S.
  Record: 28-0-0 (15 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 2 | Last Week: NR | Weeks On List: 1
  
  2
• 
  Sergey Kovalev
  Country: Russia
  Record: 28-0-1 (25 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 3 | Last Week: 7 | Weeks On List: 25
  
  Title: WBO, IBF, WBA light heavyweight
  3
• 
  Gennady Golovkin
  Country: Kazakhstan
  Record: 33-0-0 (30 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 4 | Last Week: 4 | Weeks On List: 29
  
  Title: WBA middleweight
  4
• 
  Guillermo Rigondeaux
  Country: Cuba
  Record: 15-0-0 (10 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 5 | Last Week: 5 | Weeks On List: 106
  
  Title: RING, WBO, WBA jr. featherweight
  5
• 
  Wladimir Klitschko
  Country: Ukraine
  Record: 64-3-0 (53 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 6 | Last Week: 3 | Weeks On List: 265
  
  Title: RING, IBF, WBO, WBA heavyweight
  6
• 
  Terence Crawford
  Country: U.S.
  Record: 26-0-0 (18 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 7 | Last Week: 8 | Weeks On List: 18
  
  Title: WBO jr. welterweight
  7
• 
  Manny Pacquiao
  Country: Philippines
  Record: 57-6-2 (38 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 8 | Last Week: 6 | Weeks On List: 614
  
  8
• 
  Shinsuke Yamanaka
  Country: Japan
  Record: 23-0-2 (17 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 9 | Last Week: 9 | Weeks On List: 16
  
  Title: WBC bantamweight
  9
• 
  Kell Brook
  Country: U.K.
  Record: 35-0-0 (24 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 10 | Last Week: NR | Weeks On List: 1
  
  Title: IBF

 

[Newzz]

Man fukk that.. UFC is not better. They be hugging the clinching in UFC matches as well. The ref's force fighters to break and restart all the time. Fans want blood basically. They want to see people get hurt. That's why gladiators were so popular. That's why these reality shows bait casts members into fighting. It is what it is. The actual boxers doing the complaining have nothing to show for the bytching and moaning though. I could see if you beat someone then pop shyt about that fighter running or dancing. But if you couldn't beat him what does that say about you? It say's your fighting style is based on other fighters standing in front of you and taking shots. Felix Trinidad and a lot of knock outs but is actually boxing acumen was limited. Once B Hop exposed him for what he was he fought a few more times before retiring.

?

hes not exactly wrong about trinidad, if you could give him movement and avoid his power he was beatable, against hopkins, de la hoya and wright he showed that. Winky didint move but he had no answer for his jab.

Those were 2 prime HOFers....and even though I Tito stans about it, he got the official W over DLH at the end of the day, so he didnt lose that fight.

As far as Winky Wright, who was also another prime HOFer Tito faced, he lost to Winky Wright in his 2nd fight back after a 2 1/2 years hiatus from the sport.

Saying "if you could give him movement and avoid his power...he was beatable" makes it sound easy and Tito was a limited fighter, which he wasnt. And if it was that easy, he would've lost to any B fighter or better....including Vargas, who wasnt some green, up and coming contender.

Cotto to me is a superior all around fighter from a boxing sense, i dont think hes that far off.

Tito would've destroyed Cotto. Much too big, too strong, too accurate of a puncher. He would've Margarito'd Cotto at either 147, 154, or 160....whichever weight class Cotto wanted to take his knee in.

Vargas came very close to beating him and Vargas was rushed and too young but he could definately box. if vargas would have been given more time to develop himself, he very well could have and should have outboxed trinidad.

Breh, we must've watched 2 different fights, because that fight with Tito vs Vargas was not close....at all.

Even if he had been given more time to develop, Vargas wouldnt ever beat Tito, because he had too much "Mexican pride" which = disaster against a puncher the magnitude of Tito Trinidad. He didnt have the patience or mentality to "outbox" Trinidad for 12 rounds which is why he was dropped 3x and KOd in the last round...not including the fact he was dropped twice in the 1st round as well for rushing out there trying to prove he could bang with Tito.

He could be dragged into firefights due having too MUCH ego/pride to get caught with a huge shot and stick to a gameplan of boxing.

 

[Big Boss]

brook on the p4p list

 

[Jello Biafra]

• Thoughts?
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  ROMAN GONZALEZ
  Country: Nicaragua
  Record: 43-0-0 (37 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 1 | Last Week: 2 | Weeks On List: 65
  
  Title: RING, WBC flyweight
  1
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  ANDRE WARD
  Country: U.S.
  Record: 28-0-0 (15 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 2 | Last Week: NR | Weeks On List: 1
  
  2
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  SERGEY KOVALEV
  Country: Russia
  Record: 28-0-1 (25 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 3 | Last Week: 7 | Weeks On List: 25
  
  Title: WBO, IBF, WBA light heavyweight
  3
• 
  GENNADY GOLOVKIN
  Country: Kazakhstan
  Record: 33-0-0 (30 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 4 | Last Week: 4 | Weeks On List: 29
  
  Title: WBA middleweight
  4
• 
  GUILLERMO RIGONDEAUX
  Country: Cuba
  Record: 15-0-0 (10 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 5 | Last Week: 5 | Weeks On List: 106
  
  Title: RING, WBO, WBA jr. featherweight
  5
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  WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO
  Country: Ukraine
  Record: 64-3-0 (53 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 6 | Last Week: 3 | Weeks On List: 265
  
  Title: RING, IBF, WBO, WBA heavyweight
  6
• 
  TERENCE CRAWFORD
  Country: U.S.
  Record: 26-0-0 (18 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 7 | Last Week: 8 | Weeks On List: 18
  
  Title: WBO jr. welterweight
  7
• 
  MANNY PACQUIAO
  Country: Philippines
  Record: 57-6-2 (38 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 8 | Last Week: 6 | Weeks On List: 614
  
  8
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  SHINSUKE YAMANAKA
  Country: Japan
  Record: 23-0-2 (17 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 9 | Last Week: 9 | Weeks On List: 16
  
  Title: WBC bantamweight
  9
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  KELL BROOK
  Country: U.K.
  Record: 35-0-0 (24 KOs)
  Ranking:
  This Week: 10 | Last Week: NR | Weeks On List: 1
  
  Title: IBF

That is a fukked up list from top to bottom.

 

[Cole Cash]

@Newzz I dont mind you disagreeing with my opinion to some extent but that "mexican pride" comment has me dying...

thats why i cant put my son in the ring his mama from mexico, not enough black in him to sustain head movement

 

[Axum Ezana]