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Dan Rafael chat wrap 7/2:

- No big names available for GGG. He will fight the best opponent available, no one big available for fall.
- Tureano Johnson still possible as a GGG opponent. He was ordered to do an eliminator for Lemiuex's belt. He could turn it down and fight for another belt (GGG).
- GGG vs. Lemiuex or Jacobs? Would heavily favor GGG vs. both. Would want to see both fights. GGG vs. Jacobs won't happen. HBO and Haymon = no fight.
- Who fights Mayweather next: Khan, Porter, or Brook? Believes that none of them will get the fight.
- Khan is the logical opponent for Mayweather, doesn't mean he gets the fight.
- Believes that Mayweather's fall fight will be very lackluster. Has wondered if Floyd may choose not to fight in September at all, but Floyd's team says he will.
- Berto is an option as Mayweather's next fight.
- Arum says Bradley will fight again this year. Probably not a Vargas rematch. Possibly a fight with Ali on the Dubai card.
- Vargas is undecided if he will fight at 140 or 147 going forward.
- Arum and ODH say they are looking to litigate, not settle with Haymon. Having two lawsuits (even if they are the same) makes life harder on Haymon - more money and time.
- Nonito and his wife are really nice people.
- Floyd has until 4:30 ET on Friday to decide whether he wants the WBO belts. No inside info, but thinks he will vacate.
- RJJ continues to fight because he enjoys it and he needs the money.
- Thomas & Mack Center is doing a $70 million renovation that is scheduled to be done in September, so it would be ready for Cotto-Canelo.
- Spoke with ODH this week and even though he contemplated returning to the ring, ODH believes he did the right thing by not doing so.
- Chocolatito will return in the fall, date is up in the air. Could be on Arum's Sept. 26 PPV or possibly GGG's next card.
- Andre Ward is planning to fight again this year. No idea on potential opponents.
- Brook vs. Rios is close in negotiations. Arguing over some language, particularly Brook's rematch clause.
- If Brook vs. Rios cannot get made, TR says they are talking with Provodnikov as a backup (for Rios).
- Valdez looked good, but has a ways to go. His next fight is supposed to be on the Sept. 26 PPV.
- Who would Arum like to have on his Sept. 26 card (price expected to be $45)? Gilberto Ramirez, Oscar Valdez, possibly Jose Zepeda (if he wins his next fight), and possibly Roman Gonzalez.
- Danny Jacobs is as nice a guy you will meet.
- Would love a Maidana-Khan rematch.
- Demetrius Andrade has talked about fighting in Conneticut on August 15 (same card as RJJ), but the money is not worked out yet.
- Gives Bradley props for suggesting a fight vs. GGG, but it will not happen. Not much fan demand and too big of a mismatch, does not think HBO would endorse the fight.
- Believes Fury vs. Klitschko will happen this fall. Purse bid is Monday. Would be surprised if Haymon won.
- Harder puncher: Ann Wolfe or Paulie Malignaggi? Wolfe.
- Tarver vs. Cunningham on August 14. No location yet.
- Tim Bradley is one of the best fighters of the last decade.
- No chance of Chocolatito vs. Rigo.
- Matthysse vs. Crawford looms in the future as they will be mandatories (assuming they win).
- Cotto and Canelo settled to fight at 155 lbs. The date will be either Nov. 7 (MGM Grand) or Nov. 21 (T&M - Wynn would be host casino).
- Cotto vs. Canelo should be officially announced this month with a likely 5-6 city promotional tour in August.
- Cotto and Canelo will be paying GGG step aside money (he is the mandatory). It has been agreed to, but not finalized.
- Does not think Cotto-Canelo quite does 1 million PPV buys.
- Mares and LSC will be fighting next. Possibly August 29 or in September.
- Thinks that Manny won 22 of the 24 rounds vs. Tim Bradley.
- TR's lawsuit vs. Haymon virtually guarantees that Mayweather-Pacquiao 2 does not happen.
- Froch in the HOF? Leans towards yes. He fought everyone and was not afraid to travel.
- Wlad vs. Vitali? Vitali.
- Broner does not need a new trainer, Stafford is a good trainer. He needs a new attitude and commitment.
- Originally said winner of Mayweather-Pacquiao will be FOY. Now believes that Mayweather is not guaranteed to get it.
- Nothing on who Crawford will fight in the fall, but one possibility is Antonio Orozco.
- Arums says Crawford will fight once more this year and 3 times next year.
- Very possible we see Crawford vs. Pacquiao in 2016.
- Believes we eventually see Ward vs. GGG, but thinks it is a few fights away.
- Matthysse vs. Provodnikov is FOTY so far.
- Does not want to see Broner vs. Algieri.
- Does not think Manny's shoulder affected the outcome of the fight vs. Mayweather. Healthy or not, Mayweather wins.
- Hamed vs. JMM in 1999? JMM is such a good counter puncher that he potentially could have KO'd Hamed.
- Now that Bradley has a belt again, could see JMM trying to return and take a rematch.
- TruTV's boxing presentation is excellent. HBO is heavily involved.
- If Gatti could be placed to fight one fighter today, who would he want to see him fight? Maidana.
- The 4.4 million PPV buys for Mayweather-Pacquiao guarantees that Mayweather's contract with Showtime ended up being financially beneficial.
 
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RJJ continues to fight because he enjoys it and he needs the money.

:smh:

- If Brook vs. Rios cannot get made, TR says they are talking with Provodnikov as a backup (for Rios).

FOTY candidate if i ever heard one

- Gives Bradley props for suggesting a fight vs. GGG, but it will not happen. Not much fan demand and too big of a mismatch, does not think HBO would endorse the fight.

its sad that most ppl on here couldnt see this..wanting GGG to kill timmy

- Harder puncher: Ann Wolfe or Paulie Malignaggi? Wolfe.

:mjlol: :dead:

- Cotto and Canelo will be paying GGG step aside money (he is the mandatory). It has been agreed to, but not finalized.
get paid in money,then later in blood :demonic:
 

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:mjlol: at that Anne Wolf/Paulie question.

Low Key I think Tarver/Cunningham is going to be a good fight. Don't even know who I'd root for either.

Florida vs the humble skilled nikka that can't catch a break. :snoop:
 

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Dan Rafael chat wrap 7/2:

- No big names available for GGG. He will fight the best opponent available, no one big available for fall.
Boxing writers seem so saddened that GGG isn't being given big name opponents.

- Arum and ODH say they are looking to litigate, not settle with Haymon. Having two lawsuits (even if they are the same) makes life harder on Haymon - more money and time.
The wolves are at Allah Haymon's door. I get why Oscar is so pissed because Haymon and Schaeffer were trying to take his company from him. Bob just seems like he is being a crab and wants to shyt on Haymon's plan.

- RJJ continues to fight because he enjoys it and he needs the money.
It will never stop bothering me to hear that Roy needs to keep fighting for the money.

- If Brook vs. Rios cannot get made, TR says they are talking with Provodnikov as a backup (for Rios).
In terms of the pure entertainment factor I think I would prefer Rios/Prov over Rios/Brook.

- Harder puncher: Ann Wolfe or Paulie Malignaggi? Wolfe.
:pachaha:


- Matthysse vs. Crawford looms in the future as they will be mandatories (assuming they win).
:feedme:

- Does not want to see Broner vs. Algieri.
I wouldn't mind that fight. Algieri would win a wide decision by busting out of his cage and outworking Broner.:sas2:
 

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that Matthysse vs Crawford is wrong by Rafael

Crawford is WBO champ and Matthysse is about to fight for the WBC
 
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