King P
Legends Never Die
I'm sure he'll move up eventually once he clears out the division. Until then, unless he can't make weight, no reason for him to move up
Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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krackdagawd
Inspire.
I'm pretty sure his team is focused on unifying. This fight isn't happening anytime soon
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Dan Rafael chat wrap 6/12:
- WBA had Ali Raymi ranked...but he is dead. As far as he knows the WBA has not even acknowledged it yet.
- Believes Ramirez is ready to fight either Abraham or Steiglitz. They would be willing to travel to fight, if the money was right.
- GGG is the mandatory for Canelo-Cotto winner. Who knows if the winner and GGG will actually fight. If they do not fight they will be stripped and GGG will gain the belt.
- Boxing is on an upswing. HBO is having one of its best years in a long time, ESPN boxing site traffic is the highest it has ever been, and PBC is putting fights on network TV.
- Cotto vs. Canelo will get made. Still discussing venues. One possible location is Cowboys stadium. The official announcement of the fight will be coming soon.
- With Beltran-Soto scratched, Valdez will get shown on HBO if he can get a decent opponent. They main event (Bradley-Vargas) will be the 1,000th fight shown on HBO.
- HBO has said they will put together a video like they did for 500 fights.
- Four man tourney at MW: RJJ vs. SRL, SRR vs. Hagler, then winners? RJJ beats SRL, SRR beats Hagler. RJJ has a shot, but SRR wins overall.
- Tony Harrison has a fan friendly style, good skills, and a great personality. If he beats Willie Nelson, expect him to get a world title shot at 154 next year.
- No information on Mayweather's next fight. Just a guess it will be Khan. Seems like the most logical opponent.
- Mayweather should announce his next opponent within a month.
- Bradley vs. Vargas will be for the WBO belt.
- Canelo vs. Cotto will sell more than 500k PPV buys.
- LSC vs. Mares will probably be this fall. The winner ideally fights Frampton soon after.
- Ref Frank Cappucino passed away.
- PBC's main issue is that there isn't much ad revenue. It takes time to build the brand up and get advertiser's on board.
- Walters by KO over Marriaga.
- Froch vs. GGG talks are cooling off. Tom Loeffler says they would like the winner of Lemiuex-N'Dam.
- GGG wants all the belts, so winner of Lemiuex-N'Dam makes sense and be the best fight GGG could get. Lemiuex-GGG would be an exciting fight.
- Fighter who has the most embarrassing quality of opponents? LSC.
- Imagines Danny Garcia will be vacating the WBA belt soon.
- Anthony Joshua has the potential to be the best HW.
- Canelo or Cotto, who is the A side? Canelo has a bigger fan base, but both are major stars.
- Shockingly poor attendance for the Guerrero fight. Odd time for an outdoor fight in LA.
- No one is excited over Wilder's fight. Huge mismatch.
- Lara's fight is a mismatch as well.
- RJJ has two fights scheduled in August.
- We shouldn't have issues with catchweights if both fighters agree to it.
- Wilder vs. Fury or Povetkin will not happen this year. The WBC won't order a purse bid until October and those usually get delayed. If one of those fights gets made, it will probably be next spring.
- Not done yet, but the co-main event for PBC's 8/1 card (Malignaggi-Garcia) is most likely Jacobs-Mora.
- Darchinyan and Angulo are proud warriors who have been in a lot of good fights. They both need to look at retirement or risk really getting hurt.
- Postol is long and tall, but it can be hard to use that when Matthysse is punching you.
- Both Postol and Matthysse have said the want the fight and it is a no brainer for HBO to put on.
- Charlo will wait on K9 since it is a mandatory fight.
- When Manny returns who does he likely fight? Mayweather.
- Garcia-Malignaggi will be at 147.
- Tureano Johnson's manager is trying to get him a fight vs. Heiland. Good fight.
- No US broadcast for Abraham-Steiglitz yet. It would be perfect for Showtime International.
- Did not think Froch was really considering fighting GGG unless the money was amazing.
- Anthony Peterson is a non-entity. He rarely fights, fights nobodies, and is boring.
- Does not agree with Bowe being inducted in the HOF. Did not vote for him.
- Prime Casamayor vs. Gamboa? Casamayor easily.
- Brook vs. Rios? Outside chance of happening.
- When PBC broadcasts cut off and return on a different channel (due to time slot issues) it is absolutely horrible. In the case of the Darchinyan-Cuellar fight they didn't show round 2.
- Walters vs. Lomachenko is not guaranteed to be in the UAE (if it were made). It very likely could take place in the US and be on HBO.
- Unlikely that Lomachenko-GRJ 2 happens.
- Not sympathetic toward Margarito. Has always believed he is guilty as sin.
- Fighters walking in with their entourage enhances the atmosphere. PBC/Haymon view that differently.
- WBA vs. WBC who is worse? WBA is the worst.
- Verdejo to beat Najera.
- Chris Algieri is expected to stay at 147.
- Has talked with Richard Schaefer and he will be back in boxing before the end of the year. He cannot say specifics as his settlement precludes it.
- Broner vs. Porter may be the best card PBC has put on.
- At 147 he picks Porter to beat Broner without hesitation. The catchweight gives him pause.
- Erik Morales is a lock for the HOF.
- Pedraza vs. Klimov? Pedraza.
- Bob Arum can drink.
- Juan Diaz is recovering from shoulder surgery.
- Pascal could end up getting a rematch with Kovalev.
- People who think Manny did not suffer an injury and have surgery are conspiracy theorists.
- Eventually thinks we get Quillin-Jacobs.
- Dmitry Khudryashov has huge power, but is very wooden with not a lot of movement or speed. Against a top opponent he may be befuddled. His power is top notch.
- Do we see a different JCC now that Garcia is training him? Doubtful.
- Casamayor for the HOF? On the fence, but would probably vote for him.
- Predicting KO2 for Wilder's fight (the 10 pound weight advantage buys Molina an extra round).
- Expects to see Wilder fight again this year.
- Buy or Sell: Sergio Mora gets another title shot? Buy.
- Fury vs. Klitschko? Klitschko by brutal KO.
- Hopkins vs. DeGale? Decent fight, but he will believe it when he sees it get made.
- Always wanted to see Maidana vs. Matthysse, now it seems doubtful because Maidana is with PBC and Matthysse with GB.
- No news on GRJ.
- Arum says he is making Walters vs. Lomachenko next.
- Breazeale vs. Joshua? Joshua by massive KO.
- Molina: 239.25, Wilder: 229.
- Walters: 127.4, Marriaga: 125. TR told him Walters would make weight.
- ESPN has tried to get the rights for the boxing HOF broadcast, but the boxing HOF has delusions of grandeur.
- Has not heard rumors of Margarito making a comeback. If true...not a good idea.
- Ranks JMM ahead of Morales and Barrera, career wise.
- Ranking of these fights (Cotto-Canelo, Ward-GGG, Kovalev-Stevenson, Wlad-Wilder)? 1. Cotto-Canelo, 2. Kovalev-Stevenson, 3. Wlad-Wilder, 4. Ward-GGG.
- Rank the careers of Camacho, Tito, and Cotto? 1. Cotto, 2. Tito, 3. Camacho.
- Are there current notable fighters who he believes use PED's, but he can't say anything about it because there is no evidence? Yes, 100%.
- Prime Mosley vs. JMM? Mosley, easily.
- Fighters who have managed their money well? Hopkins, Wlad Klitschko.
- Doesn't particularly care either way about Garcia-Malignaggi. It isn't a bad fight, it isn't a great fight.
- WBA had Ali Raymi ranked...but he is dead. As far as he knows the WBA has not even acknowledged it yet.
- Believes Ramirez is ready to fight either Abraham or Steiglitz. They would be willing to travel to fight, if the money was right.
- GGG is the mandatory for Canelo-Cotto winner. Who knows if the winner and GGG will actually fight. If they do not fight they will be stripped and GGG will gain the belt.
- Boxing is on an upswing. HBO is having one of its best years in a long time, ESPN boxing site traffic is the highest it has ever been, and PBC is putting fights on network TV.
- Cotto vs. Canelo will get made. Still discussing venues. One possible location is Cowboys stadium. The official announcement of the fight will be coming soon.
- With Beltran-Soto scratched, Valdez will get shown on HBO if he can get a decent opponent. They main event (Bradley-Vargas) will be the 1,000th fight shown on HBO.
- HBO has said they will put together a video like they did for 500 fights.
- Four man tourney at MW: RJJ vs. SRL, SRR vs. Hagler, then winners? RJJ beats SRL, SRR beats Hagler. RJJ has a shot, but SRR wins overall.
- Tony Harrison has a fan friendly style, good skills, and a great personality. If he beats Willie Nelson, expect him to get a world title shot at 154 next year.
- No information on Mayweather's next fight. Just a guess it will be Khan. Seems like the most logical opponent.
- Mayweather should announce his next opponent within a month.
- Bradley vs. Vargas will be for the WBO belt.
- Canelo vs. Cotto will sell more than 500k PPV buys.
- LSC vs. Mares will probably be this fall. The winner ideally fights Frampton soon after.
- Ref Frank Cappucino passed away.
- PBC's main issue is that there isn't much ad revenue. It takes time to build the brand up and get advertiser's on board.
- Walters by KO over Marriaga.
- Froch vs. GGG talks are cooling off. Tom Loeffler says they would like the winner of Lemiuex-N'Dam.
- GGG wants all the belts, so winner of Lemiuex-N'Dam makes sense and be the best fight GGG could get. Lemiuex-GGG would be an exciting fight.
- Fighter who has the most embarrassing quality of opponents? LSC.
- Imagines Danny Garcia will be vacating the WBA belt soon.
- Anthony Joshua has the potential to be the best HW.
- Canelo or Cotto, who is the A side? Canelo has a bigger fan base, but both are major stars.
- Shockingly poor attendance for the Guerrero fight. Odd time for an outdoor fight in LA.
- No one is excited over Wilder's fight. Huge mismatch.
- Lara's fight is a mismatch as well.
- RJJ has two fights scheduled in August.
- We shouldn't have issues with catchweights if both fighters agree to it.
- Wilder vs. Fury or Povetkin will not happen this year. The WBC won't order a purse bid until October and those usually get delayed. If one of those fights gets made, it will probably be next spring.
- Not done yet, but the co-main event for PBC's 8/1 card (Malignaggi-Garcia) is most likely Jacobs-Mora.
- Darchinyan and Angulo are proud warriors who have been in a lot of good fights. They both need to look at retirement or risk really getting hurt.
- Postol is long and tall, but it can be hard to use that when Matthysse is punching you.
- Both Postol and Matthysse have said the want the fight and it is a no brainer for HBO to put on.
- Charlo will wait on K9 since it is a mandatory fight.
- When Manny returns who does he likely fight? Mayweather.
- Garcia-Malignaggi will be at 147.
- Tureano Johnson's manager is trying to get him a fight vs. Heiland. Good fight.
- No US broadcast for Abraham-Steiglitz yet. It would be perfect for Showtime International.
- Did not think Froch was really considering fighting GGG unless the money was amazing.
- Anthony Peterson is a non-entity. He rarely fights, fights nobodies, and is boring.
- Does not agree with Bowe being inducted in the HOF. Did not vote for him.
- Prime Casamayor vs. Gamboa? Casamayor easily.
- Brook vs. Rios? Outside chance of happening.
- When PBC broadcasts cut off and return on a different channel (due to time slot issues) it is absolutely horrible. In the case of the Darchinyan-Cuellar fight they didn't show round 2.
- Walters vs. Lomachenko is not guaranteed to be in the UAE (if it were made). It very likely could take place in the US and be on HBO.
- Unlikely that Lomachenko-GRJ 2 happens.
- Not sympathetic toward Margarito. Has always believed he is guilty as sin.
- Fighters walking in with their entourage enhances the atmosphere. PBC/Haymon view that differently.
- WBA vs. WBC who is worse? WBA is the worst.
- Verdejo to beat Najera.
- Chris Algieri is expected to stay at 147.
- Has talked with Richard Schaefer and he will be back in boxing before the end of the year. He cannot say specifics as his settlement precludes it.
- Broner vs. Porter may be the best card PBC has put on.
- At 147 he picks Porter to beat Broner without hesitation. The catchweight gives him pause.
- Erik Morales is a lock for the HOF.
- Pedraza vs. Klimov? Pedraza.
- Bob Arum can drink.
- Juan Diaz is recovering from shoulder surgery.
- Pascal could end up getting a rematch with Kovalev.
- People who think Manny did not suffer an injury and have surgery are conspiracy theorists.
- Eventually thinks we get Quillin-Jacobs.
- Dmitry Khudryashov has huge power, but is very wooden with not a lot of movement or speed. Against a top opponent he may be befuddled. His power is top notch.
- Do we see a different JCC now that Garcia is training him? Doubtful.
- Casamayor for the HOF? On the fence, but would probably vote for him.
- Predicting KO2 for Wilder's fight (the 10 pound weight advantage buys Molina an extra round).
- Expects to see Wilder fight again this year.
- Buy or Sell: Sergio Mora gets another title shot? Buy.
- Fury vs. Klitschko? Klitschko by brutal KO.
- Hopkins vs. DeGale? Decent fight, but he will believe it when he sees it get made.
- Always wanted to see Maidana vs. Matthysse, now it seems doubtful because Maidana is with PBC and Matthysse with GB.
- No news on GRJ.
- Arum says he is making Walters vs. Lomachenko next.
- Breazeale vs. Joshua? Joshua by massive KO.
- Molina: 239.25, Wilder: 229.
- Walters: 127.4, Marriaga: 125. TR told him Walters would make weight.
- ESPN has tried to get the rights for the boxing HOF broadcast, but the boxing HOF has delusions of grandeur.
- Has not heard rumors of Margarito making a comeback. If true...not a good idea.
- Ranks JMM ahead of Morales and Barrera, career wise.
- Ranking of these fights (Cotto-Canelo, Ward-GGG, Kovalev-Stevenson, Wlad-Wilder)? 1. Cotto-Canelo, 2. Kovalev-Stevenson, 3. Wlad-Wilder, 4. Ward-GGG.
- Rank the careers of Camacho, Tito, and Cotto? 1. Cotto, 2. Tito, 3. Camacho.
- Are there current notable fighters who he believes use PED's, but he can't say anything about it because there is no evidence? Yes, 100%.
- Prime Mosley vs. JMM? Mosley, easily.
- Fighters who have managed their money well? Hopkins, Wlad Klitschko.
- Doesn't particularly care either way about Garcia-Malignaggi. It isn't a bad fight, it isn't a great fight.
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bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Well you said he was talented and that's what i attacked. people came to your rescue by naming the things i quoted and that was one of them.
Slater (West by God Virginia )
Similar to the JMM Morale Barrera question. How would you rank Hector Macho Cammaco, Tito Trinidad and Miguel Cotto for all time great Puerto Rican fighters?
Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak 2:38 PM ET
1. Cotto, 2. Tito, 3. Camacho
1. Tito
2. Cotto
3. Macho
And Showtime is putting on Wilder vs a cab driver in the backwoods of Alabama.
My God, that is a horrific match-up.
Don't nobody want to see that garbage.
This annoys me too. Makes it seem like the networks don't take boxing seriously.
Why not? Its not like there is a shortage of subpar club fighters for him to face.
He really shouldn't be getting any more title shots though.
The HOF is in desperate need of someone with new ideas to be in charge. They still run that shyt like its 1950.
krackdagawd
Inspire.
breh do you actually like anything in boxing
you just drop in from time and time and drop random venom
breh do you actually like anything in boxing
you just drop in from time and time and drop random venom
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Amare's Right Hook
Southeast World Champion
Then don't put words in my mouth or make stuff up. It's not about attacking we are all just speaking on Boxing. I can think he is talented while you think he isn't and it's ok. I sure as s-hit am not trying to change anyone's mind in here.
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
Jesse Vargas is +285 right now vs Timmay 
i know bhop was thrifty as hell but he has serious dough..i hope he can use that as his reasoning to not fight anymore
Jae
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He's headlining cards nobody is watching. In the ratings race, I think he Spike cards have the highest ratings. As for purses, Guerrero lost and still got a mil last weekend. Has Thurman cracked a mil yet?
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
thurman got 4 million views vs guerrero.....
Thurman vs. Guerrero peaks at 4.2m viewers on NBC in Premier Boxing Champions
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/03...m-viewers-on-nbc-in-premier-boxing-champions/
Thurman $1.5m, Guerrero $1.225M
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/03/sats-purses-thurman-1-5m-guerrero-1-225m-broner-125m-mares-500k/
