Black_Jesus
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Do what you do breh.. Just because you don't like what I'm saying doesn't make it wrong.
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Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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If Master boxers were on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the highest level (not unbeatable though)
Rigo and Floyd are easily at the 10 mark or at least pushing towards it (9 or 9.5)
Algieri is somewhere around the 7 mark. He's a lot better than average, but he hasn't crossed that bridge that leads over into the land of great/excellent boxers. (8,9, 10)
Rigo and Floyd are easily at the 10 mark or at least pushing towards it (9 or 9.5)
Algieri is somewhere around the 7 mark. He's a lot better than average, but he hasn't crossed that bridge that leads over into the land of great/excellent boxers. (8,9, 10)
Black_Jesus
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Everybody that's not undefeated is somebody's leftovers.
Why should Floyd fight Manny? He's Torrecampo's, Singsurat's, Morales', Bradley's, and Marquez' leftovers
I dont get into all that "leftover" stuff that you and Floyd be trying to use.
Yea but the difference with Pacquiao is that if he gets beat, he either turns them nikka back into leftovers or attempts to.. Pac can beat any nikka who's ever beat him... AB, on the other hand".. well let's just say, I can't confidently make the same statement bout him
I agree... Where do you rate Bradley?
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@Black_Jesus Bradley's skills leave a little to be desired ( the flailing he does pisses me the fukk off), but he has the resume along with the athleticism and talent to make up for his technical shortcomings.
I'd say outta 1-10 on the boxing scale, Bradley is a solid 8. I don't think he ranks any lower than that. Maybe 7.5 if you hate the guy.
I'd say outta 1-10 on the boxing scale, Bradley is a solid 8. I don't think he ranks any lower than that. Maybe 7.5 if you hate the guy.
Yea but the difference with Pacquiao is that if he gets beat, he either turns them nikka back into leftovers or attempts to.. Pac can beat any nikka who's ever beat him... AB, on the other hand".. well let's just say, I can't confidentlyrics make the same statement bout him
It doesnt matter about that. You and Floyd calling people "leftovers" is pointless, because Pacquiao never avenged his 1st 2 losses....so he will always remain a "leftover" according to yall's standards.
Me, there's no such thing as a left over or basically the entire boxing world would be considered leftovers.
Provodnikov was Mauricio Herrera's and Timothy Bradley's leftovers....but yet you give Algieri full credit for beating him, so there's no point in calling people "leftovers"
Black_Jesus
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It doesnt matter about that. You and Floyd calling people "leftovers" is pointless, because Pacquiao never avenged his 1st 2 losses....so he will always remain a "leftover" according to yall's standards.
Me, there's no such thing as a left over or basically the entire boxing world would be considered leftovers.
Provodnikov was Mauricio Herrera's and Timothy Bradley's leftovers....but yet you give Algieri full credit for beating him, so there's no point in calling people "leftovers"
Pac couldn't avenge those losses because he couldn't make flyweight anymore.. and I think Torrecampo got locked up soon after th at fight.. So it's not pointless..
So he was their leftovers by your standards then right?
At the end of the day, Sugar Ray Robinson was somebody's leftover, Joe Louis was, Muhammad Ali was, Manny Pacquiao is, Roy Jones is, Bernard Hopkins is, Pernell Whitaker is, SRL/Hearns/Duran/Hagler were ALL somebody's leftovers, etc......calling a fighter somebody's "leftovers" is pointless.
RING's Top 10 Pound For Pound List:
1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Wladamir Klitschko - somebody's leftovers
3) Manny Pacquiao - somebody's leftovers
4) Andre Ward
5) Timothy Bradley - somebody's leftovers
6) Juan Manuel Marquez - somebody's leftovers
7) Roman Gonzalez
8) Guillermo Rigondeaux
9) Carl Froch - somebody's leftovers
10) Canelo Alvarez - somebody's leftovers
@Black_Jesus 60% of the Top 10 RING P4P list are "leftovers" and you dont think it's pointless to call people that?
1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Wladamir Klitschko - somebody's leftovers
3) Manny Pacquiao - somebody's leftovers
4) Andre Ward
5) Timothy Bradley - somebody's leftovers
6) Juan Manuel Marquez - somebody's leftovers
7) Roman Gonzalez
8) Guillermo Rigondeaux
9) Carl Froch - somebody's leftovers
10) Canelo Alvarez - somebody's leftovers
@Black_Jesus 60% of the Top 10 RING P4P list are "leftovers" and you dont think it's pointless to call people that?
Tanamount to calling every girl who isn't a virgin a trashy thot/slut/whote/cum dumpsterRING's Top 10 Pound For Pound List:
1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Wladamir Klitschko - somebody's leftovers
3) Manny Pacquiao - somebody's leftovers
4) Andre Ward
5) Timothy Bradley - somebody's leftovers
6) Juan Manuel Marquez - somebody's leftovers
7) Roman Gonzalez
8) Guillermo Rigondeaux
9) Carl Froch - somebody's leftovers
10) Canelo Alvarez - somebody's leftovers
@Black_Jesus 60% of the Top 10 RING P4P list are "leftovers" and you dont think it's pointless to call people that?
Exactly.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
That wasn't my point at all, but you knew that
Sugar Ray Robinson was somebody's leftover, Joe Louis was, Muhammad Ali was, Manny Pacquiao is, Roy Jones is, Bernard Hopkins is, Pernell Whitaker is, SRL/Hearns/Duran/Hagler were ALL somebody's leftovers, etc......calling a fighter somebody's "leftovers" is pointless.
Floyd can say it, because he's undefeated like Joe Calzaghe before him. If you are a stan of a fighter with multiple losses, you can NOT call somebody a "leftover" with a straight face.
... it's not about the fact a figher has a loss vs somebody.. It's who that somebody is.. if that fighter is able to bounce back.. what point in their career did they take the L? Was it after they were way passed prime or not??. In Pac's case.. He was a very green fighter starting out and he took a couple Ls VERY early into his career.. He bounced back and became fighter of the decade... Them fighters you named above lost to some trill ass nikkas... Prime AB lost to Maidana 
That wasn't my point at all, but you knew that
Wladamir Klitschko lost to Russ Purrity, Corrie Sanders, and Lamon Brewster
What you're saying makes NO sense whatsoever. Like I said, 60% of the RING P4P list is filled with somebody's leftovers....including Manny Pacquiao.
Spin it how you want, 5 losses means you are 5x leftovers by your own standards.
Me, I know boxing, so I know just because you lost a fight (like 99% of the fighters in the HOF) means nothing at the end of the days.