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Rigondeaux Unable To Get Foe, Interim-Title in Play
Guillermo Rigondeaux (14-0, 9KOs) can't catch a break. The WBO/WBA super bantamweight champion has been unable to get the other champions of his division in the ring and now he can't get the top contenders in the rankings to face him.
The WBO had previously ordered Rigondeaux to defend his title against Chris Avalos. The challenger passed on the opportunity, instead choosing to pursue his mandatory shot against IBF champion Carl Frampton.
In order to set an official challenger to Rigondeaux, the WBO is going to put together a fight for the interim-super bantamweight title. After the two challengers are determined, and fight, the winner will then have to face Rigondeaux for the full belt.
http://www.boxingscene.com/rigondeaux-unable-get-foe-interim-title-play--83721
Guillermo Rigondeaux (14-0, 9KOs) can't catch a break. The WBO/WBA super bantamweight champion has been unable to get the other champions of his division in the ring and now he can't get the top contenders in the rankings to face him.
The WBO had previously ordered Rigondeaux to defend his title against Chris Avalos. The challenger passed on the opportunity, instead choosing to pursue his mandatory shot against IBF champion Carl Frampton.
In order to set an official challenger to Rigondeaux, the WBO is going to put together a fight for the interim-super bantamweight title. After the two challengers are determined, and fight, the winner will then have to face Rigondeaux for the full belt.
http://www.boxingscene.com/rigondeaux-unable-get-foe-interim-title-play--83721
at this point rigo is going to have to get ko'ed or brawl in order to create interest so the fans can get behind him
yeah dude is at the age where the division he is in will make him a liability..esp with all damn amateur fights he's hadjust realized he is 34
i feel bad for rigo
King P
Legends Never Die
So it appears that Andrade turned down the Charlo fight
California Burrito
Slangin' Chorizo
Augie Sanchez: The Tale of Kid Vegas
By Thomas Gerbasi
To paraphrase Marlon Brando in On the Waterfront, there are plenty of fighters that coulda been contenders. Augie Sanchez coulda been a champion.
For a few minutes in a tent built in the parking lot of the Foxwoods Casino in Connecticut on August 19, 2000, “Kid Vegas” was on the verge of shocking the world and handing WBO featherweight champion Prince Naseem Hamed the first loss of his career.
“I look at it once in a while, and I’m like ‘man, if he just would have stayed down,’” Sanchez laughs. “I watch it over and over, and hopefully there’s a different result.”
The result that night was a come from behind fourth-round knockout win for Hamed. A little over a year later, the Las Vegas native’s boxing career was over. He was just 25 years old.
Now 36, Sanchez is still around the sport, training amateurs with his father-in-law Pat Barry at Barry’s Boxing Center, and life is good for the married father of three. He doesn’t miss being in the ring, feeling that despite his initial desire to step through the ropes after a 2001 loss to John Michael Johnson, it was ultimately the right time to walk away.
“I love boxing,” he said. “But it’s like when you’re in a restaurant and the lady pours the coffee in your cup; you’ve got to know when to say when. (Laughs) And that’s how I feel about boxing. I felt like it was my time. It was a good career. I wasn’t able to get a world title, but I did get to the level where I fought for it, so I felt like it was my time to say goodbye to the sport.”
Not many thought that would be the way things turned out for Sanchez, a stellar amateur who won a 1996 national title and even beat current pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather in that year’s Olympic trials. Mayweather would eventually earn that spot in the Atlanta Games with two subsequent victories over his rival.
Undeterred, Sanchez turned pro in June of 1996, and with his fast and heavy hands, it was assumed that his style was much more suited for success in the punch for pay ranks. And those assumptions were correct, as he raced out to a 16-0 record with 14 knockouts. In fight 17 though, he was upset by 7-8-1 Edgar Garcia, who knocked him out in the first round.
Most observers thought it was a quick stoppage, especially since Sanchez had his opponent down earlier in the same round, and the 10-fight winning streak that followed, which included a seventh round knockout of Jorge Paez in 1999, earned him a shot at Hamed, who was 34-0 at the time.
“Even though I had been boxing my whole life, being on a stage of that magnitude, with the hype of it and the intensity, it was kind of nerve-wracking,” recalled Sanchez, who soon realized that despite the hype behind the brash Brit, “he put his pants on one leg at a time just like I do.”
A slow first round could have easily gone to the busier Sanchez, and while he put Hamed on the deck in round two, it was called a slip. In the third, he continued to press the champion, forcing him to grab the top rope after landing another solid shot, and the Connecticut crowd began chanting “Augie, Augie.” Both went back to their corners bloodied and bruised after the round, but after getting the feeling that an upset was in the works, a left-right by Hamed closed the show in the fourth. Sanchez was removed from the ring on a stretcher, though looking back, he has no regrets.
“It was a great moment in my life, even though the outcome was what it was,” he said. “I don’t regret anything I did. It was a good opportunity for me and I felt like it made me a better fighter after that fight.”
Sanchez would bounce back from the Hamed loss with back-to-back knockout wins over Luisito Espinosa and Daniel Jimenez, but in the Johnson fight, he was knocked out in frightening fashion just 31 seconds into the first round.
In 2012, the Nevada State Athletic Commission denied him a license, effectively ending his career. For a 25-year-old who still felt he had something to offer the game, it was a tough pill to swallow and he fought to get his license back, but the commission wouldn’t budge.
Finally, he walked away, but in 2009, at the age of 31, he applied for a license again. This time, after passing all the requested medical tests, he was granted a one-fight license, but he never used it.
“It was for my own sanity,” Sanchez said. “I didn’t want them to tell me I can’t do it. So I went back, did all the testing again, went to the commission and they approved me. It (the Johnson loss) was a brutal knockout and I could see it, but when it came to the medicals, they were all good, so there was really no reason for them to say they couldn’t give me my license back. So it was my choice to make that decision to not fight again. I could have gone back and fought again, but like I said about the whole coffee thing – I wanted to say when I wanted to end my career, not them.”
That’s the stubbornness of a fighter, and sometimes it’s those little victories that are the most important. And looking back, Sanchez knows what he brought to the fight game and he’s content with what he left it.
“My style was either I’m gonna knock you out, or you’re gonna knock me out,” he laughs. “That’s the way it was; if you were going to beat me, you would have to knock me out. Otherwise you were getting knocked out or you were gonna take punishment for the duration of the fight. And that’s what I wanted. I wanted people to enjoy my style and enjoy my fights. Whenever I was in that ring, I wanted to bring excitement and they knew I was going to bring a good fight. It was never going to be boring. You had to keep your eyes open because you didn’t know what was going to happen. You didn’t want to miss the punch. I’m glad I wasn’t the type of fighter where you heard crickets in the audience.”
To have a legacy like that isn’t bad at all, and despite knowing that he is only 36 while former opponents like Johnson still fight on at 46, there is no inkling of an itch in his body to think about a comeback.
“Never again,” he laughs. “I’m done taking punches. I could have fought and made some good fights, but at the end of the day, will I be able to go in my car and remember how to get home? I don’t want to have to use a GPS to get home. I feel like a lot of fighters don’t realize that. They end up staying too long and that’s what ends up happening. I didn’t want that to be me.”
It’s not him, and in addition to his work in the gym, Sanchez also spends time working with kids at the Department of Family Services, giving back to the community and telling his story to those who may need to know that there are other alternatives to being in the streets and up to no good. But if boxing is the direction they want to go in, Sanchez makes sure they know what they’re getting into, and no one knows it better than he does.
“It’s a hard road,” he said. “It’s something you have to make a decision on, it’s something that you take a hundred percent, and you can’t do it like other sports when you’re in boxing. You have to concentrate on boxing if that’s what you want to do. It’s all about discipline and you gotta want it. Everything else has to be secondary. Boxing is not a hobby.”
But when “Kid Vegas” was fighting, it was always fun to watch.
i'll never forget watching this KO when it happened
By Thomas Gerbasi
To paraphrase Marlon Brando in On the Waterfront, there are plenty of fighters that coulda been contenders. Augie Sanchez coulda been a champion.
For a few minutes in a tent built in the parking lot of the Foxwoods Casino in Connecticut on August 19, 2000, “Kid Vegas” was on the verge of shocking the world and handing WBO featherweight champion Prince Naseem Hamed the first loss of his career.
“I look at it once in a while, and I’m like ‘man, if he just would have stayed down,’” Sanchez laughs. “I watch it over and over, and hopefully there’s a different result.”
The result that night was a come from behind fourth-round knockout win for Hamed. A little over a year later, the Las Vegas native’s boxing career was over. He was just 25 years old.
Now 36, Sanchez is still around the sport, training amateurs with his father-in-law Pat Barry at Barry’s Boxing Center, and life is good for the married father of three. He doesn’t miss being in the ring, feeling that despite his initial desire to step through the ropes after a 2001 loss to John Michael Johnson, it was ultimately the right time to walk away.
“I love boxing,” he said. “But it’s like when you’re in a restaurant and the lady pours the coffee in your cup; you’ve got to know when to say when. (Laughs) And that’s how I feel about boxing. I felt like it was my time. It was a good career. I wasn’t able to get a world title, but I did get to the level where I fought for it, so I felt like it was my time to say goodbye to the sport.”
Not many thought that would be the way things turned out for Sanchez, a stellar amateur who won a 1996 national title and even beat current pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather in that year’s Olympic trials. Mayweather would eventually earn that spot in the Atlanta Games with two subsequent victories over his rival.
Undeterred, Sanchez turned pro in June of 1996, and with his fast and heavy hands, it was assumed that his style was much more suited for success in the punch for pay ranks. And those assumptions were correct, as he raced out to a 16-0 record with 14 knockouts. In fight 17 though, he was upset by 7-8-1 Edgar Garcia, who knocked him out in the first round.
Most observers thought it was a quick stoppage, especially since Sanchez had his opponent down earlier in the same round, and the 10-fight winning streak that followed, which included a seventh round knockout of Jorge Paez in 1999, earned him a shot at Hamed, who was 34-0 at the time.
“Even though I had been boxing my whole life, being on a stage of that magnitude, with the hype of it and the intensity, it was kind of nerve-wracking,” recalled Sanchez, who soon realized that despite the hype behind the brash Brit, “he put his pants on one leg at a time just like I do.”
A slow first round could have easily gone to the busier Sanchez, and while he put Hamed on the deck in round two, it was called a slip. In the third, he continued to press the champion, forcing him to grab the top rope after landing another solid shot, and the Connecticut crowd began chanting “Augie, Augie.” Both went back to their corners bloodied and bruised after the round, but after getting the feeling that an upset was in the works, a left-right by Hamed closed the show in the fourth. Sanchez was removed from the ring on a stretcher, though looking back, he has no regrets.
“It was a great moment in my life, even though the outcome was what it was,” he said. “I don’t regret anything I did. It was a good opportunity for me and I felt like it made me a better fighter after that fight.”
Sanchez would bounce back from the Hamed loss with back-to-back knockout wins over Luisito Espinosa and Daniel Jimenez, but in the Johnson fight, he was knocked out in frightening fashion just 31 seconds into the first round.
In 2012, the Nevada State Athletic Commission denied him a license, effectively ending his career. For a 25-year-old who still felt he had something to offer the game, it was a tough pill to swallow and he fought to get his license back, but the commission wouldn’t budge.
Finally, he walked away, but in 2009, at the age of 31, he applied for a license again. This time, after passing all the requested medical tests, he was granted a one-fight license, but he never used it.
“It was for my own sanity,” Sanchez said. “I didn’t want them to tell me I can’t do it. So I went back, did all the testing again, went to the commission and they approved me. It (the Johnson loss) was a brutal knockout and I could see it, but when it came to the medicals, they were all good, so there was really no reason for them to say they couldn’t give me my license back. So it was my choice to make that decision to not fight again. I could have gone back and fought again, but like I said about the whole coffee thing – I wanted to say when I wanted to end my career, not them.”
That’s the stubbornness of a fighter, and sometimes it’s those little victories that are the most important. And looking back, Sanchez knows what he brought to the fight game and he’s content with what he left it.
“My style was either I’m gonna knock you out, or you’re gonna knock me out,” he laughs. “That’s the way it was; if you were going to beat me, you would have to knock me out. Otherwise you were getting knocked out or you were gonna take punishment for the duration of the fight. And that’s what I wanted. I wanted people to enjoy my style and enjoy my fights. Whenever I was in that ring, I wanted to bring excitement and they knew I was going to bring a good fight. It was never going to be boring. You had to keep your eyes open because you didn’t know what was going to happen. You didn’t want to miss the punch. I’m glad I wasn’t the type of fighter where you heard crickets in the audience.”
To have a legacy like that isn’t bad at all, and despite knowing that he is only 36 while former opponents like Johnson still fight on at 46, there is no inkling of an itch in his body to think about a comeback.
“Never again,” he laughs. “I’m done taking punches. I could have fought and made some good fights, but at the end of the day, will I be able to go in my car and remember how to get home? I don’t want to have to use a GPS to get home. I feel like a lot of fighters don’t realize that. They end up staying too long and that’s what ends up happening. I didn’t want that to be me.”
It’s not him, and in addition to his work in the gym, Sanchez also spends time working with kids at the Department of Family Services, giving back to the community and telling his story to those who may need to know that there are other alternatives to being in the streets and up to no good. But if boxing is the direction they want to go in, Sanchez makes sure they know what they’re getting into, and no one knows it better than he does.
“It’s a hard road,” he said. “It’s something you have to make a decision on, it’s something that you take a hundred percent, and you can’t do it like other sports when you’re in boxing. You have to concentrate on boxing if that’s what you want to do. It’s all about discipline and you gotta want it. Everything else has to be secondary. Boxing is not a hobby.”
But when “Kid Vegas” was fighting, it was always fun to watch.
i'll never forget watching this KO when it happened
Apollo Kid
Veteran
It being Halloween and all, this is appropriate 
Maizeandbluekid
Early 2010's OG
I THOUGHT I recognized that voice!Shannon Briggs was that Haitian in Badboys 2???????
Get the fukk outta here!
Just picture him saying some of this shyt in the future to Wlad...
pure hilarious trolling would be the result. #LETSGOCHAMP
Augie Sanchez: The Tale of Kid Vegas
By Thomas Gerbasi
To paraphrase Marlon Brando in On the Waterfront, there are plenty of fighters that coulda been contenders. Augie Sanchez coulda been a champion.
For a few minutes in a tent built in the parking lot of the Foxwoods Casino in Connecticut on August 19, 2000, “Kid Vegas” was on the verge of shocking the world and handing WBO featherweight champion Prince Naseem Hamed the first loss of his career.
“I look at it once in a while, and I’m like ‘man, if he just would have stayed down,’” Sanchez laughs. “I watch it over and over, and hopefully there’s a different result.”
The result that night was a come from behind fourth-round knockout win for Hamed. A little over a year later, the Las Vegas native’s boxing career was over. He was just 25 years old.
Now 36, Sanchez is still around the sport, training amateurs with his father-in-law Pat Barry at Barry’s Boxing Center, and life is good for the married father of three. He doesn’t miss being in the ring, feeling that despite his initial desire to step through the ropes after a 2001 loss to John Michael Johnson, it was ultimately the right time to walk away.
“I love boxing,” he said. “But it’s like when you’re in a restaurant and the lady pours the coffee in your cup; you’ve got to know when to say when. (Laughs) And that’s how I feel about boxing. I felt like it was my time. It was a good career. I wasn’t able to get a world title, but I did get to the level where I fought for it, so I felt like it was my time to say goodbye to the sport.”
Not many thought that would be the way things turned out for Sanchez, a stellar amateur who won a 1996 national title and even beat current pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather in that year’s Olympic trials. Mayweather would eventually earn that spot in the Atlanta Games with two subsequent victories over his rival.
Undeterred, Sanchez turned pro in June of 1996, and with his fast and heavy hands, it was assumed that his style was much more suited for success in the punch for pay ranks. And those assumptions were correct, as he raced out to a 16-0 record with 14 knockouts. In fight 17 though, he was upset by 7-8-1 Edgar Garcia, who knocked him out in the first round.
Most observers thought it was a quick stoppage, especially since Sanchez had his opponent down earlier in the same round, and the 10-fight winning streak that followed, which included a seventh round knockout of Jorge Paez in 1999, earned him a shot at Hamed, who was 34-0 at the time.
“Even though I had been boxing my whole life, being on a stage of that magnitude, with the hype of it and the intensity, it was kind of nerve-wracking,” recalled Sanchez, who soon realized that despite the hype behind the brash Brit, “he put his pants on one leg at a time just like I do.”
A slow first round could have easily gone to the busier Sanchez, and while he put Hamed on the deck in round two, it was called a slip. In the third, he continued to press the champion, forcing him to grab the top rope after landing another solid shot, and the Connecticut crowd began chanting “Augie, Augie.” Both went back to their corners bloodied and bruised after the round, but after getting the feeling that an upset was in the works, a left-right by Hamed closed the show in the fourth. Sanchez was removed from the ring on a stretcher, though looking back, he has no regrets.
“It was a great moment in my life, even though the outcome was what it was,” he said. “I don’t regret anything I did. It was a good opportunity for me and I felt like it made me a better fighter after that fight.”
Sanchez would bounce back from the Hamed loss with back-to-back knockout wins over Luisito Espinosa and Daniel Jimenez, but in the Johnson fight, he was knocked out in frightening fashion just 31 seconds into the first round.
In 2012, the Nevada State Athletic Commission denied him a license, effectively ending his career. For a 25-year-old who still felt he had something to offer the game, it was a tough pill to swallow and he fought to get his license back, but the commission wouldn’t budge.
Finally, he walked away, but in 2009, at the age of 31, he applied for a license again. This time, after passing all the requested medical tests, he was granted a one-fight license, but he never used it.
“It was for my own sanity,” Sanchez said. “I didn’t want them to tell me I can’t do it. So I went back, did all the testing again, went to the commission and they approved me. It (the Johnson loss) was a brutal knockout and I could see it, but when it came to the medicals, they were all good, so there was really no reason for them to say they couldn’t give me my license back. So it was my choice to make that decision to not fight again. I could have gone back and fought again, but like I said about the whole coffee thing – I wanted to say when I wanted to end my career, not them.”
That’s the stubbornness of a fighter, and sometimes it’s those little victories that are the most important. And looking back, Sanchez knows what he brought to the fight game and he’s content with what he left it.
“My style was either I’m gonna knock you out, or you’re gonna knock me out,” he laughs. “That’s the way it was; if you were going to beat me, you would have to knock me out. Otherwise you were getting knocked out or you were gonna take punishment for the duration of the fight. And that’s what I wanted. I wanted people to enjoy my style and enjoy my fights. Whenever I was in that ring, I wanted to bring excitement and they knew I was going to bring a good fight. It was never going to be boring. You had to keep your eyes open because you didn’t know what was going to happen. You didn’t want to miss the punch. I’m glad I wasn’t the type of fighter where you heard crickets in the audience.”
To have a legacy like that isn’t bad at all, and despite knowing that he is only 36 while former opponents like Johnson still fight on at 46, there is no inkling of an itch in his body to think about a comeback.
“Never again,” he laughs. “I’m done taking punches. I could have fought and made some good fights, but at the end of the day, will I be able to go in my car and remember how to get home? I don’t want to have to use a GPS to get home. I feel like a lot of fighters don’t realize that. They end up staying too long and that’s what ends up happening. I didn’t want that to be me.”
It’s not him, and in addition to his work in the gym, Sanchez also spends time working with kids at the Department of Family Services, giving back to the community and telling his story to those who may need to know that there are other alternatives to being in the streets and up to no good. But if boxing is the direction they want to go in, Sanchez makes sure they know what they’re getting into, and no one knows it better than he does.
“It’s a hard road,” he said. “It’s something you have to make a decision on, it’s something that you take a hundred percent, and you can’t do it like other sports when you’re in boxing. You have to concentrate on boxing if that’s what you want to do. It’s all about discipline and you gotta want it. Everything else has to be secondary. Boxing is not a hobby.”
But when “Kid Vegas” was fighting, it was always fun to watch.
i'll never forget watching this KO when it happened
i was there live
and i was at this one..what a fight and event..the fight before the main event was dope..kennedy mckinney vs junior jones..
