It did help Froch's career, but we can thank Ward for not fighting Bute in the 1st place as well as the ref from the 1st Andrade fight for keeping Bute undefeated.
But the hamed and hatton wins are over past their prime versions of kelly and tyszu...
And bradley over froch?
Froch is a four time champion in the super middleweight division, wins over Pascal,Dirrell,Taylor,Johnson,Abraham,Kessler,Bute...GREAT wins breh...soild wins are Nate campbell,kendall ****,Luis abregu....went life and death with Ruslan who although fun to watch,dude is not great nor elite, a solid good fighter who was solved earlier by sweet pea herrera. Wins over older Casamayor and Marquez {a split Decision at that} are aightlost to Manny TWO times, you got to be a supreme hater on some skip b shyt to give the first fight to him. Dudes best win is Devon Alexander who fought stupid and pulled some bytch shyt at the end.
two time light welterweight champ...and wbo welterweight champthe belt he "won" in that manny fight.
Bradley is a good solid fighter but no way bradley over froch now or down the line in HOF voting.
at writing essays for Froch. 
Frochs Split decision over Dirrell was a GREAT win
Tim Bradleys Split decision over Top 5 P4P N Mexican legend JMM aiiight win
Oh N that GREAT Johnson Win...one of the judges had it a draw:88:
.you should update your criteria breh:guwoplol:
the other 10% thought it was a draw lol..but in no way did froch win that fight..i hope dirrell gets his shyt together and goes after carl again in 2015exactly.
nikkas with their biases
I mean 90% of the viewers thought Dirrell beat Froch clearly, yet that gets touted as some great win for Carl.
Carl Froch would be running Super Middleweight right now, and would have been since 2010, if it wasnt for Andre Ward being in the same division breh.
And Hamed only ran Featherweight because MAB and Morales didnt arrive until later
The fact of the matter is Froch AIN'T running super middleweight. He's just the 2nd best guy, that still lost to Kessler ( he avenged it though) and he still needs to beat Dirrell convincingly in order to right that wrong.
nikkas always talking about Swift needing to beat Herrera in a rematch, but at least that fight was close. Danny actually landed some punches and wasn't rocked against the ropes twice in the championship rounds.
Froch got the life boxed out of him and he got hurt twice and he still got the decision. Fight wasn't competitive at all, but nobody bytches about Froch needing to give Dirrell a rematch. Instead nikkas say he's a HOF and is the 2nd best guy at super middle.
I don't give nikkas credit for running anything until they actually run shyt. Froch ain't running shyt.
But your criteria works against both Nassem Hamed and Timothy Bradley breh
Nassem hamed got DESTROYED by Marco Antonio Barrera and dropped 3 or 4 times by Kevin Kelley (the 2 best opponents he faced, even though he managed to pull off the struggle KO victory over Kelley think Matthysse vs Molina)....and he just retired. No rematches, no get back, no clear win to make himself look better...nothing.
On Timothy Bradley, if you're saying that Froch needs to beat Dirrell convincingly, HE needs to beat Manny Pacquiao convincingly in order to right that wrong. I can say the exact same thing about Bradley vs Pacquiao as you're saying for Froch vs Dirrell....Bradley got the life boxed out of him and he got hurt twice and he still got the decision. Fight wasn't competitive at all in the 1st fight, but they robbed Manny. You're giving Bradley credit for a "victory" over Pacquiao we know he earned even less than Froch did over Dirrell.
You dont have to run a division in order to be a HOFer. You know this breh, shout out to Winky Wright
nikka I'm the guy who shyts on people the hardest for scoring the first fight for Timmy. I'm the one that started the whole " You need to watch it on slow motion, with Al Green playing in the background on a rainy day in order to see Bradley win. I'm not trying to change minds here. Just stating why I disagree.
This nikka right here.
Hamed/Kelly was a war but it had a conclusive ending in the Prince's favor. Hamed should have rematched MAB, but dude knew he was done at the top and took that L and quit. That doesn't mean I forget about all the times he was dominating his division and producing high light reel KO's.
Bradley just isn't as good as Manny. Just like Froch isn't as good as Ward. Rematches won't prove nothing in those fights because we're asking B level guys to beat A level guys that are also more talented and skilled than their opponents. When did I give Bradley a victory over Pac?
Even with Bradley's defeats to Manny, I still think he rates higher than Froch.
Froch and Dirrell are at least close enough to each other on some levels shyt where a rematch could make a difference in who stands taller.
Bradley can fight Manny 2x more times and still lose clearly. Manny is just that much better. Dirrell is more skilled and talented than Froch, but Froch has other intangibles that Dirrell doesn't have. They even out to about the same level. Ward and Froch don't. Bradley and Manny don't.
If nikkas think Froch is HOF worthy and is better than Bradley, than
This nikka said Hamed was DESTROYED by MAB.
I saw a couple boxing lessons in those fights, never saw anybody get destroyed or their ass kicked.
At this rate, nikkas 5 years from now are going to be saying Canelo destroyed Lara.
over your reasoning NOT to include him but include Hamed and Bradley.
Okay....how about this, Hamed was DOMINATED by MAB
Dude lost 8 rounds to 4 rounds against a man who was fighting in his 1st fight at the weight against Hamed who "ran his division".
I dont know what Danny Garcia has to do with this, but he lost clearly to Mauricio Herrera
You're resorting to arguing over choice of words breh?
MAB dominated "The Man Who Runs His Division"
If Hamed is a HOFer, so is Froch. There's no way around it.
For 4 years, Froch has been clearly the 2nd best boxer at SMW which is ran by the 2nd greatest boxer in the sport.....unfortunately he doesnt fight in a weak division like Cruiserweight where he can receive the "I Run My Division Award"
He's 33-2 and a 4x Champion in the Super Middleweight Division where he fought his entire career. Victories over Jean Pascal, Jermain Taylor, Mikkel Kessler, Andre Dirrell, Arthur Abraham, Glen Johnson, Lucian Bute, George Groves 2x.
Im not trying to convince you, because Carl Froch is gonna be in the HOF regardless, I'm just
dude is prolly thinking t-craw and omar have plans on jumping to 140 so it can put him in the position of picking up one of their beltsI thought Yuriorkis Gamboa said he was going to go down in weight after getting knocked out by Terrence Crawford?
It was announced he will be on a doubleheader card on 11/15 against Joel Montes de Oca at Lightweight.
Cristian Mijares is filling out the other side of the doubleheader against Lester Madrano.
Dude really should go down to Jr Lightweight at least.
http://www.boxingscene.com/yuriorkis-gamboa-cristian-mijares-double-on-11-15--83586
