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[FreedMind]

These dudes standing around the barbecue like trying to make maidana laugh

 

[Jello Biafra]

Ive already stated my position on Broner thousands of times.

He's a young talent with great potential to be one of the best. He may or may not reach that goal, but its his current position.

Nobody stans Keith Thurman now?

#TheThurminators dont exist on here? People all across the internet aren't asking to see Floyd "finally take a challenge and fight Keith Thurman"?

I don't have to hang my hat on anything. The bottom line and FACTS are Broner has lost only 1 fight in his career to the guy who destroyed Soto-Karass(Thurman best victory), and beaten 3 Champions in his career.

For you to talk down on him, while being a stan of a fighter who has done LESS and achieved half as much in his career is something that seems to be running rampant among AB haters.


You said "Soto-Karass is a good measuring stick, so of course Broner never fought him" as trying to be funny and hint at AB being scared of him. Its hilarious because the fact that Maidana killed Soto-Karass and Broner fought Maidana instead never entered your mind.

Criticize fighters for fighting the tougher opponent brehs

Who am I stanning though?
And the #TheThurminators was created on what this past Friday or Saturday?
And Broner took the Maidana fight thinking Maidana was the easier match-up despite his own fan poll showing that Lucas Matthysse was who the fans overwhelmingly wanted him to fight. So let's not act like Broner chose Maidana over Soto-Karass or anything. His picking Maidana was to avoid Matthysse who at the time was being seen as a beast.
Support fighters who ignore the results of their own polls to allow fans to pick their next opponent brehs.
Plus Broner has been fighting since 2008...he could have fought a Soto-Karass on his comeup instead of some of them soft touches he was paired with. At least he would have been tested better to prepare him for that asswhooping Maidana put on him because it is obvious the extremely careful matchmaking didn't serve ya boy too well.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Dan Rafael saying that German viewership for Klitchko-Lepai was 9 million viewers.

Boxrec says that cards for Matthysse-Molina at the time of the stoppage were:
Caiz 95-91, DeLuca 94-92, Tellez 97-90...all for Matthysse.

97-90? Really?

 

[Jello Biafra]

Josesito Lopez trainer said Allah Haymon getting them a fight in 60-90 days

Swift??
Ghost??
Berto??
One Time??

IF I were a betting man I would guess that Thurman is the most likely opponent since dude is at the beginning of a big push from GBP and Showtime while also needing to continue stepping up in comp. Thurman/Lopez would be a pretty entertaining Showtime main event.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Who am I stanning though?
And the #TheThurminators was created on what this past Friday or Saturday?
And Broner took the Maidana fight thinking Maidana was the easier match-up despite his own fan poll showing that Lucas Matthysse was who the fans overwhelmingly wanted him to fight. So let's not act like Broner chose Maidana over Soto-Karass or anything. His picking Maidana was to avoid Matthysse who at the time was being seen as a beast.
Support fighters who ignore the results of their own polls to allow fans to pick their next opponent brehs.
Plus Broner has been fighting since 2008...he could have fought a Soto-Karass on his comeup instead of some of them soft touches he was paired with. At least he would have been tested better to prepare him for that asswhooping Maidana put on him because it is obvious the extremely careful matchmaking didn't serve ya boy too well.

But I thouggt at the time Mathysse was already set on fighting Swift fir the title... Why would he fight AB?

 

[Jello Biafra]

But I thouggt at the time Mathysse was already set on fighting Swift fir the title... Why would he fight AB?

Broner's poll was in completed in June while the Garcia/Mathysse bout wasn't announced till mid-July if memory serves me.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Broner's poll was in completed in June while the Garcia/Mathysse bout wasn't announced till mid-July if memory serves me.

I wouldn't say he was avoiding Matthysse... Mattysse and Swift were looking to fight before the official announcement, them two nikkas had business to settle at 140...AB couldn't get in the way of that... He probably would've fought the winner (Swift) had he not lost to Madonna

 

[Newzz]

Who am I stanning though?
And the #TheThurminators was created on what this past Friday or Saturday?
And Broner took the Maidana fight thinking Maidana was the easier match-up despite his own fan poll showing that Lucas Matthysse was who the fans overwhelmingly wanted him to fight. So let's not act like Broner chose Maidana over Soto-Karass or anything. His picking Maidana was to avoid Matthysse who at the time was being seen as a beast.
Support fighters who ignore the results of their own polls to allow fans to pick their next opponent brehs.
Plus Broner has been fighting since 2008...he could have fought a Soto-Karass on his comeup instead of some of them soft touches he was paired with. At least he would have been tested better to prepare him for that asswhooping Maidana put on him because it is obvious the extremely careful matchmaking didn't serve ya boy too well.

Dont do this breh....you're not good at hating on Broner and just furthering my point on people who just blindly hate on him and what they say


Matthysse was already in rout to fighting Garcia for the belt at 140 after he beat Lamont Peterson....that was in May 2013. The poll option didnt even become available until June 23rd, 2013.

Said Schaefer: "Words can't describe how good this guy is, how hungry he is, how exciting he is. Now let's see him and Danny Garcia. I was told before the Peterson fight that [Garcia] would take it, and that's the fight I want to make."

Garcia, who was ringside, retained his titles April 27 with a hard-fought decision win against former three-time titleholder Judah. When that fight and the Matthysse-Peterson bout were both made, the plan all along was to match the winners in the fall.

Schaefer said he has Sept. 7 on hold at the Verizon Center in Washington, D.C., for the fight.

'The Machine' Lucas Matthysse claims another victim in Lamont Peterson - ESPN

Then you say "Broner has been fighting since 2008, he could've fought Soto-Karass instead of the soft touches he was paired with?"


Broner was fighting at 130, then moved up to 135. He moved up to 147 only in 2013 and immediately fought the #5 Ring Welterweight and Champion Paulie Malignaggi in his 1st fight there, then he fought the guy who finished in 2nd in voting since Matthysse was already in route to fight Danny Garcia

Adrien Broner announced that he would let the fans decide who he fights next after the reigning WBC lightweight beltholder lifted Paul Malignaggi’s WBA 147-pound title via split decision on Saturday. The fans have spoken and they want Broner to face hard-punching No. 1 junior welterweight contender Lucas Matthysse next, according to a RingTV.com poll.

The Argentine’s countryman and fellow power puncher, Marcos Maidana, was the runner up with 27.1 percent of the votes. Maidana (34-3, 31 KOs), a former junior welterweight contender who now campaigns at welterweight, is coming off an exciting sixth-round stoppage of Josesito Lopez earlier this month.

Welterweight contenders Robert Guerrero and Kell Brook, plus the winners of the July 27 Andre Berto-Jesus Soto Karass and Keith Thurman-Diego Chaves fights, each received less than 10 percent of the votes.

RingTV.com poll: Fans want Broner to fight Matthysse - Ring TV

So in your mind, Broner didnt pick who the fans wanted to see him with (even though Maidana finished with the 2nd most votes and it was obvious he would be the pick since Matthysse was getting a championship shot at Garcia) and he should've fought Soto-Karass who less than 10% of fans picked

Like I said, Broner FOUGHT who the fans wanted him to fight and fought the much tougher opponent in Marcos Maidana....the same one who knocked Soto-Karass the fukk out. How would fighting the guy who got HIS ass knocked out prepare you for the guy who beat him?

Only reason you trying to pump up Soto-Karass is like I said, it's Keith Thurman's biggest victory to date, but yet you got the nerve to talk down on Broner.


Irrational hating exposed

 

[Jello Biafra]

I wouldn't say he was avoiding Matthysse... Mattysse and Swift were looking to fight before the official announcement, them two nikkas had business to settle at 140...AB couldn't get in the way of that... He probably would've fought the winner (Swift) had he not lost to Madonna

Your rational thought and common sense has no place in the middle of my haterade, homie.

 

[Newzz]

Your rational thought and common sense has no place in the middle of my haterade, homie.

Dont do this breh....you're not good at hating on Broner and just furthering my point on people who just blindly hate on him and what they say



Irrational hating exposed

@Jello Biafra, I already know you are a AB hater (which it's nothing wrong with) so you never gonna backdown on your hate. Leave me alone!

 

[Jello Biafra]

Dont do this breh....you're not good at hating on Broner and just furthering my point on people who just blindly hate on him and what they say


Matthysse was already in rout to fighting Garcia for the belt at 140 after he beat Lamont Peterson....that was in May 2013. The poll option didnt even become available until June 23rd, 2013.




Then you say "Broner has been fighting since 2008, he could've fought Soto-Karass instead of the soft touches he was paired with?"


Broner was fighting at 130, then moved up to 135. He moved up to 147 only in 2013 and immediately fought the #5 Ring Welterweight and Champion Paulie Malignaggi in his 1st fight there, then he fought the guy who finished in 2nd in voting since Matthysse was already in route to fight Danny Garcia



So in your mind, Broner didnt pick who the fans wanted to see him with (even though Maidana finished with the 2nd most votes and it was obvious he would be the pick since Matthysse was getting a championship shot at Garcia) and he should've fought Soto-Karass who less than 10% of fans picked

Like I said, Broner FOUGHT who the fans wanted him to fight and fought the much tougher opponent in Marcos Maidana....the same one who knocked Soto-Karass the fukk out. How would fighting the guy who got HIS ass knocked out prepare you for the guy who beat him?

Only reason you trying to pump up Soto-Karass is like I said, it's Keith Thurman's biggest victory to date, but yet you got the nerve to talk down on Broner.


Irrational hating exposed

I freely admit to being an irrational hater of Broner just like I admitted to my irrational hatred of Tim Bradley. Luckily for me neither guy has done shyt to make my irrational hatred wrong so I am still able to shyt on them and their accomplishments with my head held high.
And I said Broner could have fought "a Soto-Karass" meaning a tough middle of the road fighter who makes the young future star have to dig deep to win. Did A fight against that type of guy would have saved ya boy from the harsh reality that beat his ass for 12 rounds in the Maidana fight.
And we got completely off track of my initial point which is you, as a Broner stan, don't have the right to look down on any fighter like they would be a cakewalk for Broner because Broner hasn't proven he is that level of fighter yet since the one time he faced a dude with any power he got his ass beat.
Your favorite fighter is unsigned hype to this day until he proves otherwise and the fact that all you can point to as his major achievements are wins over Paulie and Demarco makes my point for me.
You are the one who keeps bringing up Keith Thurman and every other fighter in the world to try and cover up the fact that deep down you know ya boy is a fraudulent hype job.

 

[Jello Biafra]

@Jello Biafra, I already know you are a AB hater (which it's nothing wrong with) so you never gonna backdown on your hate. Leave me alone!

I'm done after that last post....I need to get to work.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I freely admit to being an irrational hater of Broner just like I admitted to my irrational hatred of Tim Bradley. Luckily for me neither guy has done shyt to make my irrational hatred wrong so I am still able to shyt on them and their accomplishments with my head held high.
And I said Broner could have fought "a Soto-Karass" meaning a tough middle of the road fighter who makes the young future star have to dig deep to win. Did A fight against that type of guy would have saved ya boy from the harsh reality that beat his ass for 12 rounds in the Maidana fight.
And we got completely off track of my initial point which is you, as a Broner stan, don't have the right to look down on any fighter like they would be a cakewalk for Broner because Broner hasn't proven he is that level of fighter yet since the one time he faced a dude with any power he got his ass beat.
Your favorite fighter is unsigned hype to this day until he proves otherwise and the fact that all you can point to as his major achievements are wins over Paulie and Demarco makes my point for me.
You are the one who keeps bringing up Keith Thurman and every other fighter in the world to try and cover up the fact that deep down you know ya boy is a fraudulent hype job.

 

[Newzz]

I freely admit to being an irrational hater of Broner just like I admitted to my irrational hatred of Tim Bradley. Luckily for me neither guy has done shyt to make my irrational hatred wrong so I am still able to shyt on them and their accomplishments with my head held high.
And I said Broner could have fought "a Soto-Karass" meaning a tough middle of the road fighter who makes the young future star have to dig deep to win. Did A fight against that type of guy would have saved ya boy from the harsh reality that beat his ass for 12 rounds in the Maidana fight.
And we got completely off track of my initial point which is you, as a Broner stan, don't have the right to look down on any fighter like they would be a cakewalk for Broner because Broner hasn't proven he is that level of fighter yet since the one time he faced a dude with any power he got his ass beat.
Your favorite fighter is unsigned hype to this day until he proves otherwise and the fact that all you can point to as his major achievements are wins over Paulie and Demarco makes my point for me.
You are the one who keeps bringing up Keith Thurman and every other fighter in the world to try and cover up the fact that deep down you know ya boy is a fraudulent hype job.

Adrien Broner being a hype job means EVERY fighter who has accomplished less than him is a hype job. What dont you understand about that?


A guy who has beaten 3 former/current champions and only has 1 loss will always have a better resume to me than a guy who's never faced a former or current champion, and his best win to date is Jesus Soto-Karass who already had 8 losses at the time of the fight and Thurman struggled with at first until he caught him late. Hell, Alfonso Gomez beat Soto-Karass


Im ALWAYS gonna attack yall fighters, because the majority of you haters stan fighters who have done nothing at all. If you cant take the comebacks about YOUR fighter....dont throw rocks and then try and hide your hands




I find it funny how Demarco keeps getting dismissed though


TR is trying to make Antonio Demarco vs Brandon Rios at 143....for your hatred's sake, you better root hard for Rios

 

[Yuzo]

what are matthysse's realistic options at 140? is it just broner?