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So, we just gonna leave JCC Jr. out the top 5 list of Mexican fighters?

My Top 5 Mexicans:

Canelo Alvarez
Juan Manuel Marquez
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Leo Santa Cruz
Mikey Garcia


I'ma proud member of #CanelosCartel & #ChavezCoalition

 

[patscorpio]

So, we just gonna leave JCC Jr. out the top 5 list of Mexican fighters?

My Top 5 Mexicans:

Canelo Alvarez
Juan Manuel Marquez
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Leo Santa Cruz
Mikey Garcia


I'ma proud member of #CanelosCartel & #ChavezCoalition

breh jr has no belt or any notable victories ..not top 5 anything

 

[Newzz]

breh jr has no belt or any notable victories ..not top 5 anything

He's still Top 5 to me dammit





He will have a notable victory in July though

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

So, we just gonna leave JCC Jr. out the top 5 list of Mexican fighters?

My Top 5 Mexicans:

Canelo Alvarez
Juan Manuel Marquez
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Leo Santa Cruz
Mikey Garcia


I'ma proud member of #CanelosCartel & #ChavezCoalition

@SuikodenII #BombSquad

 

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Smh at nikkas in here acting like canelo hasnt improved since he chased mosley around and beat him up. Smh at bytch ass nikkas bringing up him getting his eye fukked up by mosley,when it was clearly done by a head butt in the 3rd round and canelo did as good as he did despite that. Smh at nikkas acting like manny is still the same when he's clearly slowed down and doesnt punch as hard. Manny is food. I'd love to see him fight some real threats at 147 so you nikkas can't continue talking nonsense to me.

Improved vs who Angulo who has got his ass whooped multiple times and in easier, a Josesito Lopez who laid all tyes of hands on him in a fight where he failed to get a legit stoppage


Bottom line is Canelo aint that special if shot Mosley, Lopez and other bums could lay all type of hands on Canelo and survive why can't Manny, if Matthew Hatton could survive this big bad Alverez then why can't Manny. My only issue with Manny is his killer instinct, but fighting a Canelo he'll have that right type of fear, that this nikka can knock me out anytime fear that he didnt have with JMM(which cused the knockdonws in fight 4 IMO) or Bradley. Manny will understand he'll have to relentless chop at that tree, Canelo can and will bring out the old Manny if they fight. Lets see Canelo take rounds off and let all types of hands be laid on him vs a Manny who will throw combo after combo on his ass, lets see if Canelo and his weak ass, slow telegraph roll and look pretty trying dodge 5-6 punches......


Honestly if you aint walkning straight toward Canelo he's beatable and wild as fukk, he can only look pretty, vs someone dumb enough to walk at him in straight lines and throw one punch, like Trout and Angulo both did, and even still they trouble Canelo............The Bloviation/Inflation regarding Canelo skill, yall nikkas really need to cut it out, this was a near lhw he got folded and pelted to submission vs a small WW in Floyd, and Floyd aint the biggest puncher......

 

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Smh at nikkas in here acting like canelo hasnt improved since he chased mosley around and beat him up. Smh at bytch ass nikkas bringing up him getting his eye fukked up by mosley,when it was clearly done by a head butt in the 3rd round and canelo did as good as he did despite that. Smh at nikkas acting like manny is still the same when he's clearly slowed down and doesnt punch as hard. Manny is food. I'd love to see him fight some real threats at 147 so you nikkas can't continue talking nonsense to me.

And also vs the highest of highest level he looked like complete shyt, and a fouling ass quitter.......One has the right to question his so called improvement being that he's fighting beatable fighters, that have been beaten in better fashion by lesser fighters

 

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He's really only just a tad bit slower, and I agree his endurance and footwork is not what it was in the past... All this is just do to him not training like he used to before he became a congressman/born again Christian because thats when I noticed it

He doesn't fear his competition so he lolly gags.....Vs JMM 4 and Brdaley 2 he was soft as fukk, like he aint give one damn, but he understands that his B game can win at times, but......


He feared, Cotto, he feared Magarito, he feared ODH......


He will fear Canelo, and bring some of that footwork back, people forget Manny was a superb superb boxer at one time.....


SN:Manny needs to improve his right hand in this match, his opponents lately is not worrying about his jab, or the lead right hook................

 

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Improved vs who Angulo who has got his ass whooped multiple times and in easier, a Josesito Lopez who laid all tyes of hands on him in a fight where he failed to get a legit stoppage

yeah, its true that Manny dont have the speed he used to...but if he did....I would clearly favor him against Canelo. Canelo had a serious problem with Trout...and although Trout is a big strong JMW, he is just too cutesy and doesnt hit as hard or frequent as Manny. that dont bode well for Canelo, particularly when Trout hurt him with a body shot. He wont be able to "box" Manny. No way. He will need to counter and through every shot with fight-ending intentions whether he lands flush or not. Really, thats the key to beating Manny is good countering. I slightly favor Manny. Also, not to say that this is all that matters, but I have never been impressed with Canelo's speed...especially foot.
Let's not get started on Canelo's weight cutting and stamina issues.

 

[Newzz]

Before the fight:

Improved vs who Angulo who has got his ass whooped multiple times and in easier, a Josesito Lopez who laid all tyes of hands on him in a fight where he failed to get a legit stoppage


Bottom line is Canelo aint that special if shot Mosley, Lopez and other bums could lay all type of hands on Canelo and survive why can't Manny, if Matthew Hatton could survive this big bad Alverez then why can't Manny. My only issue with Manny is his killer instinct, but fighting a Canelo he'll have that right type of fear, that this nikka can knock me out anytime fear that he didnt have with JMM(which cused the knockdonws in fight 4 IMO) or Bradley. Manny will understand he'll have to relentless chop at that tree, Canelo can and will bring out the old Manny if they fight. Lets see Canelo take rounds off and let all types of hands be laid on him vs a Manny who will throw combo after combo on his ass, lets see if Canelo and his weak ass, slow telegraph roll and look pretty trying dodge 5-6 punches......


Honestly if you aint walkning straight toward Canelo he's beatable and wild as fukk, he can only look pretty, vs someone dumb enough to walk at him in straight lines and throw one punch, like Trout and Angulo both did, and even still they trouble Canelo............The Bloviation/Inflation regarding Canelo skill, yall nikkas really need to cut it out, this was a near lhw he got folded and pelted to submission vs a small WW in Floyd, and Floyd aint the biggest puncher......

And also vs the highest of highest level he looked like complete shyt, and a fouling ass quitter.......One has the right to question his so called improvement being that he's fighting beatable fighters, that have been beaten in better fashion by lesser fighters

He doesn't fear his competition so he lolly gags.....Vs JMM 4 and Brdaley 2 he was soft as fukk, like he aint give one damn, but he understands that his B game can win at times, but......


He feared, Cotto, he feared Magarito, he feared ODH......


He will fear Canelo, and bring some of that footwork back, people forget Manny was a superb superb boxer at one time.....


SN:Manny needs to improve his right hand in this match, his opponents lately is not worrying about his jab, or the lead right hook................

After the fight:

Why bother breh...we ALL know what'll be said by dude if Canelo ever fights Manny

Manny wins: "Manny looked like shyt, Canelo is a bum N didn't step on the gas... canelo ain't shyt"

Canelo wins: "Canelo ain't shyt, beating a washed up Pac don't mean shyt"

Close Fight: "robbery"

 

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yeah, its true that Manny dont have the speed he used to...but if he did....I would clearly favor him against Canelo. Canelo had a serious problem with Trout...and although Trout is a big strong JMW, he is just too cutesy and doesnt hit as hard or frequent as Manny. that dont bode well for Canelo, particularly when Trout hurt him with a body shot. He wont be able to "box" Manny. No way. He will need to counter and through every shot with fight-ending intentions whether he lands flush or not. Really, thats the key to beating Manny is good countering. I slightly favor Manny. Also, not to say that this is all that matters, but I have never been impressed with Canelo's speed...especially foot.
Let's not get started on Canelo's weight cutting and stamina issues.

Thank you.......................



The problem with people here is people seem to think Canelo is this massive puncher, and thats the furthest thing from the truth....

 

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After the fight:

Let's leave @ChocolateGiddyUp alone while he's enjoying himself riding some new cocks.................

 

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rewatching Canelo vs floyd. Why the hell these nikkas go in like some fukking pussies and try to be cautious with mayweather?

First two rounds this dude barely did shyt. Hope my boy maidana keeps fighting like he fights and drops 200 punches a round on him. Floyd gonna be like when he sees that relentlessness.

I can answer that.

Looking from the tv you cant see it. Its a mental thing.

Evander said it best when he lost to Toney. He said Toney was making him miss so bad that he was getting embarrassed. A disciplined fighter doesnt like to miss.

Evander also said of Lennox: "He had me so upset that I told people I was going to knock him out in the third round and I was actually trying to force things which I don’t do. My thing has always been waiting for you to make a mistake and then I’ll catch you. I haven’t been one of those guys, whether you make a mistake or not, to just go looking to run you over. I never had the physical strength to do that."

1) if you are waiting for Floyd to make a mistake...the 12th round will come a lot sooner than you expected.

2) the most underrated aspect of Floyd is not his punching power, but his physical strength. He is strong enough to face MW's like Serge with no problem. I told people before the Hatton fight that Hatton was gonna be shocked if he tried to wrestle with Floyd because he would find out that he was the weaker man. Shane is a body builder, never been a particularly strong guy as his body suggests. I told people that Floyd would manhandle his ass too if shyt got thick....not to mention Shane was at a boxing disadvantage. The only time Shane couldve beaten Floyd was at 135.

 

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Thank you.......................



The problem with people here is people seem to think Canelo is this massive puncher, and thats the furthest thing from the truth....

All I know is Shane said Canelo and Floyd hit about the same. That's all I need to know.

 

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He doesn't fear his competition so he lolly gags.....Vs JMM 4 and Brdaley 2 he was soft as fukk, like he aint give one damn, but he understands that his B game can win at times, but......

I thought you said Bradley stepped off the gas, and LET Manny win. And also that Bradley won rounds 7-12, plus the 1st 2 toss up rounds



Now you basically saying that Manny won



You said Bradley was tearing up Manny's body.....Canelo's a better body puncher with about as much hand speed as Timothy Bradley.

You said Bradley had Manny "levitating".....Canelo is much larger and has much more power than Timothy Bradley.

You said Bradley is a wild brawler.....Canelo has better footwork and is a more accurate puncher.


How can you be so confident that a Manny who was "no longer prime Manny" and had to be allowed by Bradley to win, because the fix was in according to you and Bradley took his foot off the gas, but Canelo wouldnt be able to do better and will lose against Pacquiao?

 

[surv2syn]

You said Bradley was tearing up Manny's body.....Canelo's a better body puncher with faster hand speed than Timothy Bradley.

stopped reading right there. I may be totally wrong here and may not have seen these 2 fight as much as you have....but I have never seen evidence of this.