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:snoop: damn I must have really got ya'll nikkas riled up yesterday. To me Bradley is a B+ fighter. A level fighters don't go life and death with ESPN type nikkas. When he fought his first A level guy in Manny he got dominated, but given a gift. If Bradley beats Manny clearly this weekend, then he's A+ in my book and p4p #2.

Bradley has one of the best resumes in the game, but he's pretty much beaten mostly B level fighters just like himself. Marquez is the only A level type nikka he's beaten clearly. I'm sorry but beating an older JMM isn't going to make you an A level guy overnight. Lets not act like JMM hasn't been beaten before.

I know I don't have the most popular opinions on certain shyt, but I do look at everyone objectively without stanning. I mean Oscar was an A level boxer in his prime, but I wouldn't rank him as a better fighter than Hearns or Duran who were also A level fighters.

Andre Ward who I'm no fan of is an A level fighter to me due to his skills and how he's dominated everyone he's fought. I think Bradley has a better resume, but it's how you look against your resume is what tells me about you.

Just like Chavez has a slightly better resume than GGG, but he hasn't been as dominant as GGG has against his opponents. That's why those two aren't really that far apart from each other stature wise.
 

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:snoop: damn I must have really got ya'll nikkas riled up yesterday. To me Bradley is a B+ fighter. A level fighters don't go life and death with ESPN type nikkas. When he fought his first A level guy in Manny he got dominated, but given a gift. If Bradley beats Manny clearly this weekend, then he's A+ in my book and p4p #2.

Bradley has one of the best resumes in the game, but he's pretty much beaten mostly B level fighters just like himself. Marquez is the only A level type nikka he's beaten clearly. I'm sorry but beating an older JMM isn't going to make you an A level guy overnight. Lets not act like JMM hasn't been beaten before.

I know I don't have the most popular opinions on certain shyt, but I do look at everyone objectively without stanning. I mean Oscar was an A level boxer in his prime, but I wouldn't rank him as a better fighter than Hearns or Duran who were also A level fighters.

Andre Ward who I'm no fan of is an A level fighter to me due to his skills and how he's dominated everyone he's fought. I think Bradley has a better resume, but it's how you look against your resume is what tells me about you.

Just like Chavez has a slightly better resume than GGG, but he hasn't been as dominant as GGG has against his opponents. That's why those two aren't really that far apart from each other stature wise.


Breh, I dont even care about JCC Jr or GGG at this point:heh:



It's the saying Kassim Ouma ISNT a C/C- fighter as of right now and when he fought GGG, which has me like :patrice:



JCC Jr and GGG are fighting, so all talks about them until July 19th is just that.......talk. It's gonna be proven in the ring who's better, so everybody should be cool knowing we got that fight coming down the pipeline.
 

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I'm also noticing lately (maybe it's because the fight is coming up soon) that Bradley is getting like Floyd around these parts. You can't criticize that nikka for shyt without somebody opening their fukk box copping pleas or saving him.
 

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But it's cool though. You (@LauderdaleBoss) and @patscorpio are my ring brehs.....we just see it from opposite sides of the spectrum on this.


It's cool. I know I say some things that you all dont agree with either, so it's all good brehs:salute:


Let's get back into this Manny/Bradley talk though, since the fight IS happening tomorrow and the buzz seems rather slow for a "Big Time" PPV event:mjpls:
 

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Breh, I dont even care about JCC Jr or GGG at this point:heh:



It's the saying Kassim Ouma ISNT a C/C- fighter as of right now and when he fought GGG, which has me like :patrice:



JCC Jr and GGG are fighting, so all talks about them until July 19th is just that.......talk. It's gonna be proven in the ring who's better, so everybody should be cool knowing we got that fight coming down the pipeline.

Breh you cool in all and someone I consider one of the better posters here. In fact I agree with you a lot on shyt, but you completely missed the point I made in the earlier posts and we just won't agree on this one thing right here so it's all good.
 

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I think Manny/Bradley 2 does around 500k in sells. I just think the robbery and the fact that the first fight wasn't that entertaining is what's killing it.
 

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I'm also noticing lately (maybe it's because the fight is coming up soon) that Bradley is getting like Floyd around these parts. You can't criticize that nikka for shyt without somebody opening their fukk box copping pleas or saving him.

in here with the exception of @mr. smoke weed no one really stans Bradley..its outside this thread you have cats that like to play the role because they don't like pacquiao for whatever reason or because he's black...yet cant tell you anything about him or his fights before he fought pacquiao
 

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I think Manny/Bradley 2 does around 500k in sells. I just think the robbery and the fact that the first fight wasn't that entertaining is what's killing it.


Im not buying it brehs:to:



The undercard is garbage to me and watching Pacquiao beat Bradley again 9-3 or 8-4 isnt really worth $70 to me. Maybe if the undercard was a little better:manny:



Im gonna just either stream it, or watch it on youtube later that night....or on dailymotion or something.
 

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Im not buying it brehs:to:



The undercard is garbage to me and watching Pacquiao beat Bradley again 9-3 or 8-4 isnt really worth $70 to me. Maybe if the undercard was a little better:manny:



Im gonna just either stream it, or watch it on youtube later that night....or on dailymotion or something.

For real. Breh I haven't bought a ppv since Floyd/Cotto. That was the last time you actually had bonafied stars going against each other while having a decent undercard to boot.

I can't fukk with these struggle ppv/cards. $70 is too much for some of these shyts and look how many ppvs they coming out with this year. :dwillhuh:

Cotto/Martinez is about the only one worth buying and I prolly won';t get that either. :manny:
 

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i agree with what @LauderdaleBoss said..most people (casuals) think pacquiao doesnt have it anymore since he got ko'ed and the majority think bradley is a chore to watch..and combine that with robbery in the first fight its more or less expected that pac will win handily...now if i didnt think the undercard had some potential i prolly wouldn't buy it and just rely on my XBMC connection on my netbook connected to my TV to hold me down..but the undercard is whats making me buy this (as well as hopefully Bradley's equilibrium go in the bushes)..i have a feeling some of those cats might show out and catch some wreck....i hope :patrice:
 

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i agree with what @LauderdaleBoss said..most people (casuals) think pacquiao doesnt have it anymore since he got ko'ed and the majority think bradley is a chore to watch..and combine that with robbery in the first fight its more or less expected that pac will win handily...now if i didnt think the undercard had some potential i prolly wouldn't buy it and just rely on my XBMC connection on my netbook connected to my TV to hold me down..but the undercard is whats making me buy this (as well as hopefully Bradley's equilibrium go in the bushes)..i have a feeling some of those cats might show out and catch some wreck....i hope :patrice:

cats been shytting on the undercard, but it's actually one of their better cards in quite some time. Pity that Martinez had to pull out. Beltran was gonna give that fade. That Vargas fight should be good as well.
 

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yeah for a top rank card its a better undercard than usual

I dont need to buy it over here as its on a boxing subscription channel but you guys play $70 for a ppv? thats crazy

the most we pay over here if we had a ppv is £15
 

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cats been shytting on the undercard, but it's actually one of their better cards in quite some time. Pity that Martinez had to pull out. Beltran was gonna give that fade. That Vargas fight should be good as well.

right this is a solid undercard to me(a rarity for bob) in contrast to floyd-maidana...i cant see myself paying 75 bucks to watch amir khan vs luis collazo as a co main event and broner face someone who hasn't fought in a year plus...nevermind love vs periban...thats a throwaway unfocused card to me
when are they going to announce the undercard for sergio-cotto? :patrice:
 
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