my point was more as in resume vs resume dont win you fights... in your example if anything it can go both ways, ive seen a guy who has fought no one beat a guy with a better resume.
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my point was more as in resume vs resume dont win you fights... in your example if anything it can go both ways, ive seen a guy who has fought no one beat a guy with a better resume.
Yall sit on here and talk down on Timothy Bradley saying he's a B fighter.........and then we gonna toss KASSIM OUMA in that same category?
Nope, not on my watch
Kassim Ouma is at BEST a C- fighter these days.
This the thing breh. When I analyze dudes and rank them it's done at their highest point or steady streak. Ouma at his highest point was a B level fighter. Sure he was past it when he fought GGG. Nobody is claiming GGG fought a prime Ouma. Ouma still was serviceable especially to a guy who experience at the time pales in comparasion.
I crack jokes about Bradley all the time, but I still give him his due and he's always been a B+ level fighter to me. He's pushing close to being A, but it's easy to see what he is because we see all of that now in the present while its happening. Ouma's best days have passed so depending on how you looked at him then, you might not fully respect who he becomes when he's past it. Ya'll acting like GGG just fought him. That fight was back in 2011. Ouma is a bum now of course, but the GGG of now ain't fight this Ouma. That Ouma gave a Vanes all he could handle. This same Vanes nikkas use to hype up Lara with even though he didn;t officially beat dude.
But to each his own
Thanks for jumping in breh, you see this shytKassim Ouma IS a C fighter
Dude has lost to GGG, Vanes, Rosado, K-9, Jermaine Taylor, Roman Karmazin, and Saul Roman.
If Kassim Ouma aint a C fighter, what is K9? A B+ fighter?
These nikkas is out they mind today, I'm done here 2day I got purp to smoke...................
Vanes aint shyt eitherThis the thing breh. When I analyze dudes and rank them it's done at their highest point or steady streak. Ouma at his highest point was a B level fighter. Sure he was past it when he fought GGG. Nobody is claiming GGG fought a prime Ouma. Ouma still was serviceable especially to a guy who experience at the time pales in comparasion.
I crack jokes about Bradley all the time, but I still give him his due and he's always been a B+ level fighter to me. He's pushing close to being A, but it's easy to see what he is because we see all of that now in the present while its happening. Ouma's best days have passed so depending on how you looked at him then, you might not fully respect who he becomes when he's past it. Ya'll acting like GGG just fought him. That fight was back in 2011. Ouma is a bum now of course, but the GGG of now ain't fight this Ouma. That Ouma gave a Vanes all he could handle. This same Vanes nikkas use to hype up Lara with even though he didn;t officially beat dude.
But to each his own
so if a fighter has a better resume he can than defeat the guy with the weaker resume?
This the thing breh. When I analyze dudes and rank them it's done at their highest point or steady streak. Ouma at his highest point was a B level fighter. Sure he was past it when he fought GGG. Nobody is claiming GGG fought a prime Ouma. Ouma still was serviceable especially to a guy who experience at the time pales in comparasion.
I crack jokes about Bradley all the time, but I still give him his due and he's always been a B+ level fighter to me. He's pushing close to being A, but it's easy to see what he is because we see all of that now in the present while its happening. Ouma's best days have passed so depending on how you looked at him then, you might not fully respect who he becomes when he's past it. Ya'll acting like GGG just fought him. That fight was back in 2011. Ouma is a bum now of course, but the GGG of now ain't fight this Ouma. That Ouma gave a Vanes all he could handle. This same Vanes nikkas use to hype up Lara with even though he didn;t officially beat dude.
But to each his own
But the Ouma that GGG fought was STILL 2-4 in his last 6 fights breh
And, yes, in his PRIME Ouma was a B fighter. He was out of his prime by the time GGG fought him, and was nothing more than a C fighter by that time.
That would be like still calling Zab Judah an A fighter, because that's what he was at his peak.....even though today he's nothing more than a C+ fighter because he's washed up
use brian vera and andy lee as a proof that someone is an elite fighter brehsThanks for jumping in breh, you see this shyt
These nikkas is out they mind today, I'm done here 2day I got purp to smoke...................
But the Ouma that GGG fought was STILL 2-4 in his last 6 fights breh
And, yes, in his PRIME Ouma was a B fighter. He was out of his prime by the time GGG fought him, and was nothing more than a C fighter by that time.
That would be like still calling Zab Judah an A fighter, because that's what he was at his peak.....even though today he's nothing more than a C+ fighter because he's washed up
See and that's how nikkas confuse themselves. If a guy is washed up or past it, I'll just call them that. I'm not gonna start recalculating how bad they've falling off in order to give them a new ranking. They're too many intangibles to do so since some times It's not out of the ordinary for a past it B-level fighter to show glimpses of his former self when he;s matched with a guy who's stepping up or he has the right style that can naturally exploit his opponents weaknesses. That is truly what Ouma/GGG was. Ouma was still having comeptitive fights with other boxers before the GGG fight even though he lost those bouts. Matter of fact Taylor was the last person to really dominate dude completely, he just ain't get the stoppage.
We just have 2 different ways of seeing shyt. Some gone agree with me while others won't.
We basically arguing between whose the better B level fighter between GGG and Jr. If cats wanna say Jr is better because of his resume cool. I think GGG is better because of his skills and how he approaches fights. Jr has not looked impressive enough for me to say he's miles ahead of GGG and his resume is only barely better. That;s really been my whole stance.
We basically did the same thing when we was debating who was better between Maidana and Paulie when in reality ain;t much setting them apart. They both B fighters.
Angulo was past it as hell and nikkas were saying that was gonna be a good fight for Canelo.
How much props can you get for beating a passed his prime C level fighter? If I looked at shyt the way ya'll are, then Canelo really just beat up on a D level fighter. Being past it dropped dude a whole notch. Right?
Vanes aint shyt either
True, but the fact that a past his prime B level fighter gave him hell and won in some folks eyes proves my point.
You can be past it and not totally washed up and useless. They're levels to this shyt. That passed it Ouma looked better against him then Lara did.
True, but the fact that a past his prime B level fighter gave him hell and won in some folks eyes proves my point.
You can be past it and not totally washed up and useless. They're levels to this shyt. That passed it Ouma looked better against him then Lara did.
ouma even managed to drop him late if I remember
Yep. He did and Vanes did that lil Jackie Chan kick flip in order to get back up
nikka was looking embarassed as fukk.
That's the same Ouma a green GGG fought, but but since he's a D level fighter it don't mean shyt. Same D level fighter that beat the best person on Junior's resume 7-8 years ago.
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